What would the world be like if Adam & Eve had not sinned?

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From what I understand, original sin is the reason our bodies age, get sick, and die. And why women experience pain while giving birth :\

If thats the case, and our original bodies were meant to be immortal, wouldn’t the world be afflicted with overpopulation eventually?

If Eve had ignored Satan’s temptation, isn’t it most likely that Satan would just bother another of Eve’s descendants, one of which would eventually succumb to sin? Making a fallen world inevitable?

Would people just be frolicking in the Garden all day? What do sinless people do all day?

Did our original bodies have powers besides immortality our current ones lack as a result of the fall?

Is it possible the Fall of Adam and Eve refers to a primordial event concerning the whole universe, rather than just an event on our planet Earth? Or is that theologically unsound because Jesus only lived on Earth?

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We’d all be nekkid!

So living in Canada would be problematic;)
 
(Very small nutshell) We wouldn’t be a fallen race. And we would be following God’s command to make creation subject to us. That is to progress, explore the earth universe, acquire knowledge, invent, in general thrive. As God is infinite in knowledge and creation we would never cease being able to find new things to explore and we would find incredible joy in its majesty and complexity. Everything we would be developed would be good and used for good. There would be no greed or envy. No sickness or disease. And we would know and love our heavenly Father who loves us beyond all understanding. There would never be an end what we could know about Him. We would be acutely aware of spiritual and physical things which are obscure to us now. We would never get tired or bored. We would possess a deep and perfect capacity to love ourselves and others.
 
From what I understand, original sin is the reason our bodies age, get sick, and die. And why women experience pain while giving birth :\

If thats the case, and our original bodies were meant to be immortal, wouldn’t the world be afflicted with overpopulation eventually?

If Eve had ignored Satan’s temptation, isn’t it most likely that Satan would just bother another of Eve’s descendants, one of which would eventually succumb to sin? Making a fallen world inevitable?

Would people just be frolicking in the Garden all day? What do sinless people do all day?

Did our original bodies have powers besides immortality our current ones lack as a result of the fall?

Is it possible the Fall of Adam and Eve refers to a primordial event concerning the whole universe, rather than just an event on our planet Earth? Or is that theologically unsound because Jesus only lived on Earth?

tyia
I am not sure about the world, but I am positive Adam would not be in it.😃

At the moment of Adam’s existence, God the Creator invited Adam His creature to live in eternal joy by sharing in God’s divine life in God’s spiritual, not our material, world. Adam’s peerless nature, same as ours, is designed as an unique unification of both the material world and the spiritual world. Because of Adam’s rational soul, same as ours, is why we proudly say that all of humanity is originally made in the image of God. Even though some of us have muddied our image big time.

One of the differences between then and now is that Adam was free of triple concupiscence which includes sensual pleasure, coveting earthly treasures and inordinate self-assertion-- all beyond the dictates of reason. Initially, Adam was in harmony within himself so he could enjoy his spouse, have a roof over his family, and take responsibility. All this would be carried out in harmony as long as Adam freely chose to live in submission to Our Creator.

The reality is that Adam had to recognize the limits of being a creature even when Satan tempted him by advertising the forbidden fruit as a way to be like God. If Adam had refused to yield to temptation, Adam would have remained in friendship with God and thus Adam would enter the full presence of the Beatific Vision without dying. By resisting Satan and all his works, Adam would have been welcomed into God’s world, a world far better than our temporal one.

Information Source: Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition, paragraphs 355-421.
 
It would be similar to heaven, except that we would have our present bodies, instead of post-Resurrection-glorified bodies. Also we would be pursuing innocent human endeavours, rather than sharing in Christ’s heavenly banquet.
 
It would be similar to heaven, except that we would have our present bodies, instead of post-Resurrection-glorified bodies. Also we would be pursuing innocent human endeavours, rather than sharing in Christ’s heavenly banquet.
Interesting speculation. It invites the question of mortal sin.
 
(Very small nutshell) And we would be following God’s command to make creation subject to us. That is to progress, explore the earth universe, acquire knowledge, invent, in general thrive.
So, you think the tendency of mankind’s desire to quench their curiosity about the world is an original trait from the beginning? Isn’t curiosity what led to original sin?

A general response to the other posts…

I guess what I’m trying to understand is, how would a sinless world be, without everything being utterly stagnant and boring? Most people tend to see things only becoming interesting when there is conflict.

If I manage to go to heaven, I don’t want to spend the rest of my existence strumming a harp or singing all day (figuratively and literally speaking).
 
C. S. Lewis specifically tackled this topic in his space trilogy books: Out of the Silent Planet and Perelandra.

In OOTSP a human travels to an old world nearing the end of its ability to support sentient life. The sentient beings there are full of wisdom, creativity, and have a settled order in their societies but also have fun, wit, and adventures because their world has its dangerous elements in it, as well.

In Perelandra, the world the human traveler goes to is just starting. He must aid their “eve” so she doesn’t fall from grace as our Eve did. Lewis imagines a world in which all is discovery since it is new, but all the creatures in it are subject to the sentient beings newly created to be the rulers of it. Both are well worth reading for those interested in speculating about how earth and human beings might have been and what the relationship to God might have been if Adam and Eve had not fallen.

As others have speculated, Our Lord would most likely have still become one of us, but in order to more fully share in being one with us rather than to redeem us. We might not have had children so often because being immortal, there’d be no need. Either that, or we’d move out into space to other planets as our descendants grew more populace. We’d explore space in the perfection of love and holiness and be able to more fully appreciate God’s creation. Perhaps, that’s what we’ll be doing when there’s a new heaven and a new earth, but without the need for life support and space ships. Whatever God has planned for us, it will be spectacular and more than we can imagine in our present state of being.
 
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