What's allowed here?

[waddle]

I’ve been listening to EWTN radio for a while now. The answers that people get to questions often seem really lame to me. I don’t think it’s just me because I’ve spoken with priests who think so as well.

I’m wondering what I can ask without being thrown under a bus as a heretic or some other kind of loser.

For example, is it on topic to point out that there isn’t any obvious connection between the New Testament and the Magisterium?

I’d like to understand how we got to were we are from someplace as remote as the New Testament. Is “the church says so” really the only answer?

Not as cynical as I might sound. Sometimes questions are just questions, but real nonetheless.

Joe

 

[scylla]

Pretty much anything is allowed here as long as you are respectful and stay within rules.

(there are rules such as sticking to one topic for each thread to avoid confusion and to make productive threads)

I agree with you that there sometimes doesn’t seem to be an obvious connection between what we have and the New Testament but can you elaborate or give an example. Maybe I can help.

God Bless
Scylla

 

[I_Believe]

I’ve been listening to EWTN radio for a while now. The answers that people get to questions often seem really lame to me. I don’t think it’s just me because I’ve spoken with priests who think so as well.

I’m wondering what I can ask without being thrown under a bus as a heretic or some other kind of loser.

For example, is it on topic to point out that there isn’t any obvious connection between the New Testament and the Magisterium?

I’d like to understand how we got to were we are from someplace as remote as the New Testament. Is “the church says so” really the only answer?

Not as cynical as I might sound. Sometimes questions are just questions, but real nonetheless.

Joe

Well first one must capitalize the c in Church. Not being smart alec, it’s just important to know we are talking about the will of Christ himself here. The NT is Scripture, and contains the testimony of those He ordained as his disciples, or, brethren, as they were called in the first century. Soon they would be called Christians, and not long after, all Christians were called Catholics.

This is important because it makes it obvious that the Church Christ willed is indeed the Catholic Church. (Don’t forget, Christ said Church, not Churches)

And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it
Mt 16;18

This Church was built on the honoring of the will of Christ, and in strict obedience. Christ gave specific instuctions to his Apostles at the Last Supper. He ordained them and instituted the Holy Eucharist.

No, these first century Apostles didn’t go about with a copy of the NT in their hands. But they and those they ordained wrote it. There is no disconection between the NT and the Magisterium.

Another thing Christ willed is unity. To question the Church Christ willed while embracing the religions and churches started by men is to reject the will of Christ.

Grab a copy of a bible with the words of Christ in red. With faith in Christ, His words alone should make it obvious the Catholic Church is truly His Church.

 

[Pax_et_Caritas]

I’ve been listening to EWTN radio for a while now. The answers that people get to questions often seem really lame to me. I don’t think it’s just me because I’ve spoken with priests who think so as well.

I’m wondering what I can ask without being thrown under a bus as a heretic or some other kind of loser.

For example, is it on topic to point out that there isn’t any obvious connection between the New Testament and the Magisterium?

Joe

You can certainly ask those questions… and there are good answer for them.

 

[Miserissima]

I will take Catholic Answers Live over EWTN Radio any day. I am not sure just why, either…I haven’t figured it out yet.

 

[Salonika]

I’m wondering what I can ask without being thrown under a bus as a heretic or some other kind of loser.

Sometimes questions are just questions, but real nonetheless.

Joe

Welcome to Catholic Answers and I think you have asked a good question.

It’s difficult to give a blanket answer to your question about what you can ask without being thrown under a bus as a heretic or something else. On some forums you can ask almost anything, as long as you are respectful, and there will be debate and discussion. On others, unfortunately, it is not so.

I’d suggest having a good browse about the various forums as you’ll soon pick up which is which. There are some very supportive threads in response to people who have asked for help/suggestions in dealing with personal issues.

Also you might find it helpful to look at two ccurrent threads:

• Lots of anger on this forum (in apologetics – social justice)

• Hostility on the forums (in The Water Coller – Back fence).

You’ll get to meet a number of other people here who like to ask questions and for whom an answer can lead to another question.

Look forward to seeing further postings from you.

 

[vocatio]

I will take Catholic Answers Live over EWTN Radio any day. I am not sure just why, either…I haven’t figured it out yet.

It’s because you’re argumentative.

I listen/watch both. Search for the Balance Danielson.

 

[Miserissima]

It’s because you’re argumentative.

I listen/watch both. Search for the Balance Danielson.

Haha, someone here obviously knows me well…

Nah, but seriously…I think the first time I listened to EWTN Open Line via Podcast I heard the host “go off” on a caller. Now, even when [certain hosts on] CAL get a caller who isn’t asking an earnest question, the host takes control doesn’t blow up like I heard. It left a bad taste in my mouth (bad sound in my ears?).

But I will say that I am coming to appreciate EWTN TV more and more. I just wish they had more folks talking in British accents like the history Channel (just kidding).

If you can get past the fact that some programs look like the high school video club put them together (editing, sound, etc.), the content is excellent.

 

[NeedImprovement]

…

I’m wondering what I can ask without being thrown under a bus as a heretic or some other kind of loser…

Joe

You’re allowed to have a sense of humor Joe (which the above quote proves you already have) On that same note, throwing one under a golf cart gives one more time for reflection and suffering than a bus would.

 

[cothrige]

But I will say that I am coming to appreciate EWTN TV more and more. I just wish they had more folks talking in British accents like the history Channel (just kidding).

If you can get past the fact that some programs look like the high school video club put them together (editing, sound, etc.), the content is excellent.

Well, any sound would be good compared to what I usually get. EWTN on Comcast here in N. Florida is so low in volume that I have to turn the TV to the absolute max and even then it is barely audible and full of hiss. And if I accidentally change the channels without adjusting the sound first it just about blows the speakers out.

 

[Ohwesty]

I have often thought that some answers were “lame” – but there are more answers that have given me much food for thought and have strengthened my faith. Keep in mind that on television and radio the hosts have only a few minutes to deal with a caller, and they can’t really offer a whole catechism lesson. I think it’s great that on Catholic Answers Live, many callers are given the opportunity to speak at length with an apologist off the air.

As far as there being no connection between the magisterium and the New Testament…Well, in the embryonic Church we had the Apostles. They were the magisterium. In the Acts of the Apostles we see how church structure was developing with the establishment of the ministry of elders, presbyters, and deacons. The Council of Jerusalem addressed the issue of Gentiles coming into the Church.

My advice is to ponder the parable of the tiny mustard seed, which grows into a massive tree. The Church continues to develop in her structure and wisdom, her understanding of the divine mysteries. It shouldn’t bother us that the Church doesn’t “look” the way it did in its infancy. Does a human infant look the same when he’s 30 years older? No…but the DNA is the same. He’s still the same person, only bigger and wiser. So it is with the kingdom of heaven on earth, the Church.

• Westy

 

[vocatio]

Haha, someone here obviously knows me well…

Nah, but seriously…I think the first time I listened to EWTN Open Line via Podcast I heard the host “go off” on a caller. Now, even when [certain hosts on] CAL get a caller who isn’t asking an earnest question, the host takes control doesn’t blow up like I heard. It left a bad taste in my mouth (bad sound in my ears?).

But I will say that I am coming to appreciate EWTN TV more and more. I just wish they had more folks talking in British accents like the history Channel (just kidding).

If you can get past the fact that some programs look like the high school video club put them together (editing, sound, etc.), the content is excellent.

I’ve heard both CAF and EWTN give some pretty lame advice and answers to real questions. The problem is that not everybody has the best explanation of simple things. Some questions are really complicated. Use them as an aid to learning but put your faith and trust in the Church, not the individual priests, nuns, brothers, deacons, bisops, etc. That would be tragic. They can fall prey to sin too. When you think about it, it’s kind of scary in some ways, but trust in the providence of God’s eternal word/truth. It’s why I love the Divine Mercy. Somedays I can say things almost perfect. Others its a struggle and nearly heretical if I’m not really careful. Feelings soemtimes flair up and cloud my thoughts and words. So lighten up a little, be quick to forgive and gentle to correct. But please, do correct.

 

[palmas85]

I’ve been listening to EWTN radio for a while now. The answers that people get to questions often seem really lame to me. I don’t think it’s just me because I’ve spoken with priests who think so as well.

I’m wondering what I can ask without being thrown under a bus as a heretic or some other kind of loser.

For example, is it on topic to point out that there isn’t any obvious connection between the New Testament and the Magisterium?

I’d like to understand how we got to were we are from someplace as remote as the New Testament. Is “the church says so” really the only answer?

Not as cynical as I might sound. Sometimes questions are just questions, but real nonetheless.

Joe

Actually on this particular forum you can pretty much attack Traditionalists and traditional Catholicism in just about any way you want with impunity and have plenty of backers and support as you do it.

At least that is pretty much what happens here on a daily basis.

So little else is actually discussed on this forum that I don’t have a clue what is allowed or not.