What's going on with the SSND?

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I am from Guam and the School of Sisters of Notre Dame are extremely liberal here. They allow their Catholic high school to perform a play that glorifies enemies of the Church like Margaret Sanger. I wonder if the SSND leadership supports this.

They currently administer three Catholic schools here. They used to administer to four schools but they ran one of the schools so far into the ground, because they have proven to be such poor administrators, that the archdiocese is now struggling to help it recover!

There are so few of these “sisters” here but it amazes me how they can continue to warp the Catholic view in the name of education.

I can see why young women do not have any desire to join their order. Hopefully, the order will die out soon because of a lack of interest. I can’t wait!

Does anyone else have a similar experience with the SSND? How would you deal with them?
 
Just what I’ve been saying all along–these active orders went “wiggy,” and are dying out.

Pray for the students, that they don’t get turned into radical activists. Pray for the sisters, that they come to their senses.

The SSNDs were one of the orders hit especially bad by the radical feminism.

Blessings,
Cloisters
 
Thank you for your response. I will surely pray for the students. I’m afraid their teachings have already adversly effected many. I wish we had more women here from truly religious orders to be great role models for our young ladies. I will pray for vocations. Pray for us, too. Thank you again.
 
:eek: If you are speaking of the School Sisters of Notre Dame whose US. motherhouse is in Milwaukee,I have no idea.
My great aunt was one for 60years until she died at age 99.
Makes me sad to see they are ruining the community for some stupid liberal ideas.Maybe some day they will come to their senses,hopefully before it’s too late.
 
Yes, the SSND I’m talking about have their motherhouse in
Milwaukee and their retirement home at Elmsgrove. I, too, can be sympathetic to the SSNDs, I was educated by them over a decade ago but they are so far from what they used to be. They helped me grow closer to Christ and His Church. That’s why their current liberal, unorthodox teachings are so heartbreaking for me. I believed in their ability to bring the Truth to young people but now I am so disappointed. When I think of the students who are being led astray by them now it just hurts. I think their congregation has outlived their usefulness. It’s time for the order to call it quits.
 
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Yes, the SSND I’m talking about have their motherhouse in
Milwaukee and their retirement home at Elmsgrove. I, too, can be sympathetic to the SSNDs, I was educated by them over a decade ago but they are so far from what they used to be. They helped me grow closer to Christ and His Church. That’s why their current liberal, unorthodox teachings are so heartbreaking for me. I believed in their ability to bring the Truth to young people but now I am so disappointed. When I think of the students who are being led astray by them now it just hurts. I think their congregation has outlived their usefulness. It’s time for the order to call it quits.
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Write the pope with a cc to the Congregation for Religious and the Congregation that Papa used to head up. (Too early in the morning for me to remember the name of it).

Orders who are propagating such nonsense need to be given a chance to reform. If they don’t do it, they need to be suppressed.

Actually, there may be some within the order who are feeling called to reform it. Pray for them to be given the courage to do it.

Blessings,
Cloisters
 
Cloisters,

Thank you for calling me back to prayer. I don’t realize how upset I am as I’m writing. When I go back and re-read my posts I realize that I sound angry. The truth is I am very hurt. Thank you for responding. I will pray more and complain less.
 
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Cloisters,

Thank you for calling me back to prayer. I don’t realize how upset I am as I’m writing. When I go back and re-read my posts I realize that I sound angry. The truth is I am very hurt. Thank you for responding. I will pray more and complain less.
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I can emphatize with you feelings towards the SSND. I will pray for them.
 
I’ve wondered what would happen if someone tried to sue a school like that for false representation. The Catholic high school I went to taught that abortion is ok in certain circumstances, homosexual lifestyles were merely frowned upon, but it’s up to the individual conscience to decide if it’s right for them, the Mass really isn’t any different than other Christian services, etc. You get the idea. Since it could be easily proven that they are not teaching Catholic faith like they advertise, could they be subject to a civil law suit?
 
I’ve never even considered a law suit but you’re right the false teachings they are perpetuating could be considered criminal - crimes against Holy Mother Church! Father Corapi said it best, “The devil’s favorite color is grey!” This is what I think of when some Catholic “teachers” water down doctrines and teach that there is no need for moral imperatives - it’s up to you and your conscience! Terrible!

I’ve heard about this Catholic school law expert who might be useful here. She belongs to a religious order called the Sisters of Charity of Nazareth. I don’t know much about this order but I heard this sister, her name is Angela Shaughnessy, knows Catholic school law very well. Do you know anything about this order? I think I will contact her.
Thanks for the idea! Continue to pray for the sisters.
 
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I’ve never even considered a law suit but you’re right the false teachings they are perpetuating could be considered criminal - crimes against Holy Mother Church! Father Corapi said it best, “The devil’s favorite color is grey!” This is what I think of when some Catholic “teachers” water down doctrines and teach that there is no need for moral imperatives - it’s up to you and your conscience! Terrible!

I’ve heard about this Catholic school law expert who might be useful here. She belongs to a religious order called the Sisters of Charity of Nazareth. I don’t know much about this order but I heard this sister, her name is Angela Shaughnessy, knows Catholic school law very well. Do you know anything about this order? I think I will contact her.
Thanks for the idea! Continue to pray for the sisters.
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Going to the SCNs will be like having the inmates run the asylum. They’re all part of that “wiggy” post-VatII crowd. I grew up in their “hometown,” and even considered joining them, but I knew I would prolly be kicked out for being too conservative. One sister told me I was too headstrong.

Unless it’s one Sr. Angela I used to attend daily Mass with, you might be wasting your breath. But, then again, she got into “Christian Reiki.” Sad.

We had the SCNs at my alma mater. They were very sweet, but I thought some of their teachings a bit off-the-wall.

Better to start with school administration, then take it to whoever is in charge on the diocesan level. Should be interesting to see what kind of responses you get–if any.

Blessings,
Cloisters
 
One of two things are going to happen with the SSND:
  1. They are going to disappear or
  2. They are going to shrink to a point where a reform can be manageable.
My sister went to one of their HSs… They were all pretty militant, had grey crew cuts, wore sensible shoes, and when I would show up to pick her up, they just sort of scoweled at me. The same was true for my other buddies picking their kid sister up…

My grandmother gets fundraising appeals from them all the time and she dutifully sends them a check for $10. I always thought it was really sad that in the fundraising appeals they send out, they always show photos of the elderly sisters who are still wearing a modified habit in the nursing home sitting around and looking rather retired. Poor things. The fact that they are getting “pimped out” for fundraising appeals sent to my fixed-income granny who is still fooled into thinking they all wear habits would annoy the tar out of me and make me mad if I thought about it too long. I try not to think about it too long.

But they have not had vocations to write home about in DECADES. The order is very old, very grey, and of the 700+ girls that are in my sister’s alma mater (about 200 per class per year) they manage to attract NONE of them. What does that say that the girls who see them day in, day out, work, study and pray under them don’t, in their familiarity, find them attractive enough to consider joining???

So in about 20 years the last one’s will be checking out and the school will be switched to diocesan, secular or shut down…

or

Some young upstarts will ship the crew-cuts off to the retirement homes the same way the crew-cuts shipped the habits, and they will start fresh!
 
I hope and pray, Simple Sinner, that you are correct.
The bad news: the late Sister Margaret Traxler, SSND, founded the National Coalition of American Nuns, a pro abortion group of (MOO) angry feminist nuns. The leadership of her Minnesota based province did nothing to rein her in. Sister Jeanine Grammick, formerly, SSND (now SL) was a founder of the New Ways Ministry to homosexuals, which dissented from Church teaching. Her province, I believe, did tell her to remove herself from New Ways, as did the general council of her congregation. She then transferred into an, IMHO, out of control, moribund community. The current superior general is from the Waterdown, Ontario, Canada province, and she seems to be a quiet dissenter as well.
The good news: the European provinces of the SSND have largely retained the habit and veil, and do not seem anxious to shed it. One exception: the Hungarian province-habit, no veil. While externals do seem superficial, they are not.
 
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