What's Our Friend Supposed To Do?

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Our friend was married in a Baptist church about twenty years ago. She didn’t have permission to do so, and as far as I know, the Church doesn’t even consider it to be a marriage. Her husband is unwilling to get it validated, so what is she supposed to do?
 
ATeutonicKnight said:
Our friend was married in a Baptist church about twenty years ago. She didn’t have permission to do so, and as far as I know, the Church doesn’t even consider it to be a marriage. Her husband is unwilling to get it validated, so what is she supposed to do?
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Handcuff him, drag him to church, and get the darn thing validated. 😛

Sorry, no useful advise for you this time…
 
ATeutonicKnight said:
Our friend was married in a Baptist church about twenty years ago. She didn’t have permission to do so, and as far as I know, the Church doesn’t even consider it to be a marriage. Her husband is unwilling to get it validated, so what is she supposed to do?
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she needs to visit her priest (I assume she is Catholic) explain the entire situation and follow his guidance. If the marriage seems otherwise strong and likely to last, there are ways to rectify her situation even without his cooperation, but only she can do this and only be beginning with an initial interview with the priest.
 
There is some sort of rite or something that I recall that doesn’t require the permission of the second party.
 
TheMc said:
Handcuff him, drag him to church, and get the darn thing validated. 😛

Sorry, no useful advise for you this time…
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After speaking to a priest then there may be a way to look at radical sanitation. This will take discernment with the priest - it may not need to go to this level of confrontation. :rolleyes:😉
 
joanofarc2008 said:
After speaking to a priest then there may be a way to look at radical sanitation. This will take discernment with the priest - it may not need to go to this level of confrontation. :rolleyes:😉
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So I don’t get to blow something up?
 
TheMc said:
So I don’t get to blow something up?
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no but you can wear your Che T-shirt

there is a solution to most marriage problems but the reason many marriage problems are never addressed is that the Catholic party will not make that first step even if he has to try several times to get an appointment with the priest, and may have to take several meetings to properly explain the problem, get the necessary documentation, and do what needs to be done. Then when things don’t move smoothly they get frustrated and give up, rejecting that time of waiting which is a time of grace.
 
So, I take it that she is not to receive the Eucharist until the radical sanation or some other act is done?
 
ATeutonicKnight said:
So, I take it that she is not to receive the Eucharist until the radical sanation or some other act is done?
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If she somehow moved out of the house thus ceasing the pseudo-marriage, she could go to confession and confess her “marriage,” then receive the Eucharist, even before her “marriage” is radically sanated.

However, I don’t think this is very feasible or even possible.

So, basically, no, she is not to receive until the sanation is granted by her bishop or by a tribunal delegated his power.
 
YoungTradCath said:
AH yes!

Radical sanation:
archdiocese.la/prayer/sacraments/tribunal/canonical/sanatio.html
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JMJ

For your reference, the document listed on the website you posted is a particular law for the particular Church in Los Angeles. The local Ordinary of a diocese has the right, canonically, to adjust the law of sanation (retroactive validation).

The person in question would need to contact the person listed on this site: dcdiocese.org/tribunal the Diocese of Dodge City. (I’m guessing that since the original poster is from this Diocese, that the friend is as well.)

Canonically, the Bishop of a diocese is the only one who can validate the marriage; this process is initiated through the Diocesan Tribunal (the parish priest can help you get there, or you can contact the tribunal directly).

Regarding the Sacraments, and with all due respect to other posters, don’t rely too heavily on what you read in this forum. Some of the claims made by individuals are based on personal opinion or interpretation or extrapolation from the canonical law and thus are not valid responses. The question should be proposed to a priest and to the tribunal (the tribunal will be knowledgeable of Canon Law, the priest of theology).
 
puzzleannie said:
she needs to visit her priest (I assume she is Catholic) explain the entire situation and follow his guidance. If the marriage seems otherwise strong and likely to last, there are ways to rectify her situation even without his cooperation, but only she can do this and only be beginning with an initial interview with the priest.
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Quoth for truth.

In all seriousness, as long as they’re legally married, a radical sanation can render it valid without a renewal of promises.

There is a page on the CA archive discussing it in more detail: archive.catholic.com/thisrock/1995/9504qq.asp
 
Batfink said:
Well, if we’re bring picky…a baptised child’s funeral would have white vestments. 😃
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Well, if you’re really being picky, a baptized child’s funeral would be a canonization, because they are saints.
 
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