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Prodigal_Son1
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Are you modifying posts again? Are you sure you’re not Reformed, man he sure had that bad habit and did it alot. It has a way of making a response seem less than adequate which is not fair to those in a discussion with you.
Spend a little more time reflecting before posting, or make another post. It’s the more courteous thing to do.
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Prodigal_Son1
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Got to head out to Mass, will check back with you afterwards.
God Bless, you’re in my prayers!
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God Bless, you’re in my prayers!
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underdog
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No I am not a Mormon. That’s a work of the devil (IMO). I think the names of Roman Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox cannot be found in the Bible. Is Christ divided to have so many different labels? I just try to identify with what Christians were called in the 1st century. The followers of Jesus Christ were called Christians.Well, I apologize for assuming you were a Protestant. Since you’re not Catholic, that slims down the denominations of affliation with most Churchs I am familiar with. I was beginning to think you might be a Calvinist, but I believe they are Protestant? Are you by chance Mormon? Or are you saying there is no Church you are affliated with? I’m not sure I understand you on this point.
It does not matter though, we can all share and learn from a Bible study together, don’t you think? Would you be interested in a “joint” Bible study? If not, please tell me how you know your private interpretation is correct over all the other interpretations of scriptures in the many existing Churchs of today?
Acts 11:26
and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church and taught a great many people. And in Antioch the disciples were first called Christians.
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Lord willing, I’ll see you when you get back. I didn’t know Catholics worshipped on Saturdays.Got to head out to Mass, will check back with you afterwards.
God Bless, you’re in my prayers!
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The term “Catholic” with reference to the Church was first used in the letter of St. Ignatius to the Symrnaeans, in about 110 A.D.
Full explanation here
One of the hallmarks of Apostolic Christianity is that we do not only rely on the Bible to justify our stances, but also on tradition, because we have lots and lots of it. Even if there had never been a Bible, there would still be the Church. Praise God for this!
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Acts 20:7We worship 7 days a week, don’t you?
On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul talked with them, intending to depart on the next day, and he prolonged his speech until midnight.
I’m not saying you need to worship exclusively on Sundays. However, I think the first century church traditionally met on the first day of the week as a group of believers. The Apostle Paul preached until midnight, wow what a sermon! Is the Catholic Church like the Seventh Day Adventist Christians who meet exclusively on Saturdays?
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Thanks for that information. Are the letter of St. Ignatius considered Holy Scriptures in the Catholic cannon?
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Martin777
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have you ever heard it sung in a Baptist church?We sing Amazing Grace at our parish. Why would you think that would not be in a Catholic’s heart?
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dzheremi
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Holy scriptures? No. I thought you might ask something like this, which is why I added the explanatory paragraph after the link. Not everything that the Church believes is in the Bible, because the Bible is not like a cage for the message of the Lord. The Church exists outside of the Bible, though because of the historical fact of the canonization, the opposite is not true.
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Martin777
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When I recite the Apostles’ Creed, I say that I believe in the holy catholic church. That’s the Big Daddy. Composed of all believers (true born again people, including a percentage of RCC’s) the world over through the centuries. 'Catholic", of course, means ‘universal’.
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Sure, all the time. Actually the Baptist Church is not really a particular denomination within Protestant churches as many people think. The term baptist is just a doctrinal distinctive of baptism being an ordinance or sacrament of professing Christians only. The other view is baptizing infants from Christian housholds. I think both views can be supported and refuted in scripture.
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Martin777
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Yes. There are so many great hymns to sing with joy and enthusiasm when you know that you know that you know you are saved. Like “Blessed Assurance”!
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underdog
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I think the greatest chapter in the Bible to understand the grace of God is Romans chapter 8. Your signature sums up what the grace of God achieved for those deserving of God’s wrath and condemnation for our numerous sins against God. I can related to that wretched slave trader in his hymn “Amazing grace”.
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Martin777
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That is probably my favorite chapter in all of Scripture. Romans is the most profound piece of writing in existence, I think.
And the way Cahpter 8 finishes! If you understand it and are saved, it truly is Amazing Grace and Blessed Assurance:
31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written:
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“ For Your sake we are killed all day long;
We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.”[c]
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Prodigal_Son1
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I’ve heard it sung in a Baptist, Pentacostal and the Catholic Church.
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underdog
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Would it be fair to say that the Free will Baptist, Pentecostal Christian and especially Catholic Christians have a different understanding of Amazing grace than John Newton?
Works of John Newton
puritansermons.com/newton/newt_b.htm
Sweeter sounds than music knows
Charm me in Immanuel’s name;
All her hopes my spirit owes
To his birth, and cross, and shame.
When he came, the angels sung,
“Glory be to God on high;”
Lord, unloose my stamm’ring tongue,
Who should louder sing than I?
Did the Lord a man become,
That he might the law fulfil,
Bleed and suffer in my room,
And canst thou, my tongue, be still?
No, I must my praises bring,
Though they worthless are and weak;
For should I refuse to sing,
Sure the very stones would speak.
O my Saviour, Shield, and Sun,
Shepherd, Brother, Husband, Friend,
Ev’ry precious name in one,
I will love thee without end.
John Newton
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Would you say Christians have a different understand of God’s grace, depending on your source of truth?
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Prodigal_Son1
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Well, if you were really interested in fair, wouldn’t you address questions put forth towards yourself instead of only asking others questions?
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