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With this thinking then it would appear as if NFP is also selfish as married people (where the purpose of marriage is to procreate according to the CC) make their own decision when to have children by monitoring their fertility cycles. They are not letting God decide what is best for them but are having sex outside of the fertile cycles to purposely avoid children and enjoying sex purely for the bonding and pleasure. I read on here all the time that NFP must only be used for grave reasons but I’m thinking that contradicts the trust we are to have in God being in control and providing. I guess I don’t really get how the intent of someone using NFP to avoid/space children is any different than the intent of someone using contraception. I am using the word “intent” purposely and not referring to the physicality of the act. Doesn’t what is in one’s heart matter?It is because of the nature of belief. We believe that God created men and women. We also believe that as Scripture says, God is in control and God will provide for us. To use contraceptives is to say “I know better than God.” It is to try and take your life into your hands and to do God’s job. It’s also turning the marriage act into a selfish one. The marriage act is a great blessing in which God allows us to participate in the creation of life. We get to be vessels of that grace, of that life passing into the world. God made us in his image, and as such designed the marriage act as a way that we could participate in the nature of God. That is in creation. God is the ultimate creator.
So when we use contraceptives we take that grace out of the equation. We turn it into a selfishness. We turn it into nothing but sexual and lustful pleasure. We have taken the gift of being working vessels for God’s love to flood into the world, through the gift of a newborn child and turned it merely into an orgasm. Instead of seeking to bring life, we simply seek to please our own bodies. That is just one example of why it is wrong. It doesn’t even address the nature of aboritificants, sexual promiscuity, etc.
Thanks for the explanation! However, I still think someone is fooling themselves if they believe that contraception stops the possibility of pregnancy. Nothing short of abstinence can guarantee that. All methods of contraception have failure rates and pregnancies result all the time from people who use contraception. No matter if someone uses contraception or NFP they can still be open to life if a pregnancy results…it’s a mindset.With NFP having a child can still be a possibility. When they have sex, they still have the potential to have a child. They aren’t stopping God from blessing them. They are saying rather, “God I don’t know that we can afford a child right now, we have reasons, but if it is your will we will abide by it.” One attempts to remove the ability of the sperm to impregnate the egg by removing one or the other from the equation (or destroying it after fertilization). With NFP the sperm and egg are both present in their intended ways. One is not changing the natural order of things.
There is a fundamental difference in the two.
It’s a grave evil and an abomination in God’s eyes.As the title says.
This is quite false. Contraception is a grave evil and a violation of the Sixth Commandment.Nothing.
Not all methods of contraception have abortifacient properties.Except abortion.
Natural family planning is not contraception.But the best way is Natural Family Planning.
God made us so we have a fertile period and an infertile period, and that we can engage in marital relations at any time. This is unlike most other animals.With this thinking then it would appear as if NFP is also selfish as married people (where the purpose of marriage is to procreate according to the CC) make their own decision when to have children by monitoring their fertility cycles. They are not letting God decide what is best for them but are having sex outside of the fertile cycles to purposely avoid children and enjoying sex purely for the bonding and pleasure. I read on here all the time that NFP must only be used for grave reasons but I’m thinking that contradicts the trust we are to have in God being in control and providing. I guess I don’t really get how the intent of someone using NFP to avoid/space children is any different than the intent of someone using contraception. I am using the word “intent” purposely and not referring to the physicality of the act. Doesn’t what is in one’s heart matter?
Not meaning to be argumentative at all…just trying to understand the difference and how NFP can be acceptable and contraception is not…based on my arguments above.
I was answering to the other fellow, thinking of his mind not on the fine points who are raising. The answer was not for you. If you want, answer to him.This is quite false. Contraception is a grave evil and a violation of the Sixth Commandment.
Not all methods of contraception have abortifacient properties.
Natural family planning is not contraception.
You realize that when you state you are Catholic and give answers that contradict the teaching of Holy Mother Church that you run the risk of the sin of scandal, do you not? Why would you want to lead people astray? When your personal beliefs are against the Church, it would be the polite thing to do to state that “What I am saying is against the Church”.I was answering to the other fellow, thinking of his mind not on the fine points who are raising. The answer was not for you. If you want, answer to him.
Except, perhaps, sterilization.Thanks for the explanation! However, I still think someone is fooling themselves if they believe that contraception stops the possibility of pregnancy. Nothing short of abstinence can guarantee that. All methods of contraception have failure rates and pregnancies result all the time from people who use contraception. No matter if someone uses contraception or NFP they can still be open to life if a pregnancy results…it’s a mindset.
Best to say simply “contraception”, methinks. Otherwise, some might get the idea that “natural contraception” is morally acceptable. Better yet to use the term “contracepted sex”.artificial contraception irreparably damages marriage and marital intimacy which is its biggest practical consequence.
A tubal ligation has about the same effectiveness as the pill does when taken following the directions. It is most effective for the first year after it was done, but 84% of the failures of this procedure to work happen after the first year. A tubal ligation also increases the risk of an ectopic pregnancy if it does fail to prevent conception.Except, perhaps, sterilization.![]()
Yes, I agree that calling it “artificial contraception” only further skews the Church’s position and leaves rise for the complaints that the Church is just against science. If someone knows anything about NFP they would understand how silly that claim is.Best to say simply “contraception”, methinks. Otherwise, some might get the idea that “natural contraception” is morally acceptable. Better yet to use the term “contracepted sex”.