What's the biggest threat: abortion, same-sex marriage, or cancer?

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If you could change the society in one of the three following ways, which would you do:


  1. *]Ban all abortions
    *]Eliminate same-sex marriage and adoption
    *]Cure all cancer

    Please explain your choice. Thanks for participating!
 
I would pursue ending abortion. There is hope in life, and life in the Lord. ALL goodness!

We will all die eventually of this earthly life, whether it is cancer or something else.

SSA and marriage is disturbing, but IMHO is topped by abortion.
 
That’s an easy one - ban all abortions. Nothing else matters if the fundamental right to life is not defended. Abortion is the #1 cause of death in the United States - in fact, in the United States, more people die from abortion than all other causes of death combined. In some inner cities, more children are aborted than allowed to be born. In addition, the “hard cases” - the cases that pro-aborts float around to keep all abortions legal, make up a tiny percentage of all abortions.

The one that’s closest to happening, though, is probably the cure to cancer. Due to breakthroughs in genetics and epigenetics, I can conceive a cure for cancer within the half century.
 
njlisa said:
If you could change the society in one of the three following ways, which would you do:


  1. *]Ban all abortions
    *]Eliminate same-sex marriage and adoption
    *]Cure all cancer

    Please explain your choice. Thanks for participating!
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  1. In response to your title question - none of the above. The biggest threat in my opinion is apathy. Fix that and you just solved everything else 🙂
 
Well, since we can’t go back and stop the start of contraception (infertile sex) which started this mess (abortion & homosexual unions) in the first place I’d say stop abortion. As previously posted, abortion kills more people than cancer does and damages more lives than does same-sex so-called ‘marriage.’
 
I vote for banning abortion, since abortion was made legal in Roe vs wade in 1973 over 55.7 million children have been killed.

I think to put that into perspective the 55.7 million children that have been killed would be equivalent to killing off the population of the western part of the United States:

California, has a population of 38 million people
Oregon has a population of 3.8 million
Washington has a population of 6.9 million
Idaho population of 1.5 million
Colorado population of 5.1 million

The population of these 5 states combined is 55.3 million people…and that is nearly (but not quite) equivalent to the number of children who have been killed through abortion. It truly blow my mind away, how many children have been killed. It is just sad.
 
njlisa said:
If you could change the society in one of the three following ways, which would you do:


  1. *]Ban all abortions
    *]Eliminate same-sex marriage and adoption
    *]Cure all cancer

    Please explain your choice. Thanks for participating!
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  1. I am not sure why you threw cancer in there because cancer is not a choice people choose for themselves or a behavior, it is a physical disease. Your question is loaded here and with the first two choices are a result of the immoral choices people have made for themselves. Cancer is not a moral choice. Immoral choices and murder which is what abortion is are both evil. I think your point isn’t honest because I am sure that you realize that you know most people here on CAF will choose abortion which I suspect your response will be that cancer kills more than abortion and same sex marriage doesn’t kill anyone. If you are truly looking as an unsure Catholic, you need to be honest and not set up bogus questions as a trap which you gave away by equating cancer (a physical diseas) to murder or immoral sex.
 
Millie123 said:
I vote for banning abortion, since abortion was made legal in Roe vs wade in 1973 over 55.7 million children have been killed.

I think to put that into perspective the 55.7 million children that have been killed would be equivalent to killing off the population of the western part of the United States:

California, has a population of 38 million people
Oregon has a population of 3.8 million
Washington has a population of 6.9 million
Idaho population of 1.5 million
Colorado population of 5.1 million

The population of these 5 states combined is 55.3 million people…and that is nearly (but not quite) equivalent to the number of children who have been killed through abortion. It truly blow my mind away, how many children have been killed. It is just sad.
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Wow! That’s just overwhelming when you look at it like that. :bighanky:
 
robwar said:
I am not sure why you threw cancer in there because cancer is not a choice people choose for themselves or a behavior, it is a physical disease. Your question is loaded here and with the first two choices are a result of the immoral choices people have made for themselves. Cancer is not a moral choice. Immoral choices and murder which is what abortion is are both evil. I think your point isn’t honest because I am sure that you realize that you know most people here on CAF will choose abortion which I suspect your response will be that cancer kills more than abortion and same sex marriage doesn’t kill anyone. If you are truly looking as an unsure Catholic, you need to be honest and not set up bogus questions as a trap which you gave away by equating cancer (a physical diseas) to murder or immoral sex.
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Well, I’m sorry you look at my question that way. I was going to compare just same-sex marriage and abortion, but I decided to throw something else in. I hate abortion … The killing of the innocent makes me ill. With all due respect, why don’t you go read some of my other posts and see where I stand on various issues before you accuse me of setting a trap?
 
robwar said:
I am not sure why you threw cancer in there because cancer is not a choice people choose for themselves or a behavior, it is a physical disease. Your question is loaded here and with the first two choices are a result of the immoral choices people have made for themselves. Cancer is not a moral choice. Immoral choices and murder which is what abortion is are both evil. I think your point isn’t honest because I am sure that you realize that you know most people here on CAF will choose abortion which I suspect your response will be that cancer kills more than abortion and same sex marriage doesn’t kill anyone. If you are truly looking as an unsure Catholic, you need to be honest and not set up bogus questions as a trap which you gave away by equating cancer (a physical diseas) to murder or immoral sex.
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Furthermore, I’d rather die a hideous death by cancer or any other disease than have an abortion. I recently watched my mother die of cancer, so it has been on my mind as a great torment that people suffer. It’s very hard to watch. But as I said, I’d rather go through that suffering than kill an unborn baby. And if you don’t believe me, check the prayer requests.
 
Abortion due to the death rate, but also due to the fact that cancer is not a moral problem. You do not damage your soul if you get cancer, and cancer doesn’t have a soul to get damaged. The problem is two-fold. A child is killed and a soul is separated from God.
 
njlisa said:
Furthermore, I’d rather die a hideous death by cancer or any other disease than have an abortion. I recently watched my mother die of cancer, so it has been on my mind as a great torment that people suffer. It’s very hard to watch. But as I said, I’d rather go through that suffering than kill an unborn baby. And if you don’t believe me, check the prayer requests.
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I am sorry about the loss of your mother to cancer. I lost my mother to kidney failure which is just as long and torturous. I don’t think that there needs to be an either or between abortion and same sex since both are evil and wrong and even in a sense “cancers” on our society. The question in the way it was set up seemed to be a setup whether you actually intended it or not because of the comparison with cancer which is not a moral choice. Having a great passion against an evil like abortion is very admirable but even in that sin as in all others, there is forgiveness and healing from God for those many out there who have been involved in it in one way or another. sorry for the misunderstanding.
 
Abortions, homosexual behavior, and the scandal of promoting these things are sins that cry to God for justice. Cancer doesn’t lead anyone to Hell. We all die. And life here is very short compared to where we might spend an eternity. A better question is “Heaven or Hell, which is a bigger threat?”.
 
robwar said:
I am sorry about the loss of your mother to cancer. I lost my mother to kidney failure which is just as long and torturous. I don’t think that there needs to be an either or between abortion and same sex since both are evil and wrong and even in a sense “cancers” on our society. The question in the way it was set up seemed to be a setup whether you actually intended it or not because of the comparison with cancer which is not a moral choice. Having a great passion against an evil like abortion is very admirable but even in that sin as in all others, there is forgiveness and healing from God for those many out there who have been involved in it in one way or another. sorry for the misunderstanding.
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I’m glad you understand what I meant – however poorly stated. As for compassion, I just had some describe an aborted baby as a glob of tissue. It’s hard to deal with that sort of attitude.
livingwordunity said:
Abortions, homosexual behavior, and the scandal of promoting these things are sins that cry to God for justice. Cancer doesn’t lead anyone to Hell. We all die. And life here is very short compared to where we might spend an eternity. A better question is “Heaven or Hell, which is a bigger threat?”.
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You have a point.
 
The thing with apathy isn’t that people don’t care - it’s that people are stretched thin. Some people really do not care. But most of us do care - it’s just that in order to fight for any specific cause well, we have to be able to focus on that one specific cause - especially if it’s one where we’re fighting demons and the prevailing culture, such as abortion or same-sex “marriage”. It’s interesting - our young people are much more pro-life than their parents, but, on the other hand, are also much more likely to support same-sex “marriage”. Our young are also much more skeptical about politicians who claim to be pro-life yet cut safety net programs that could help pregnant women in crisis situations and also back corporations that sponsor abortions and population control worldwide. Life must be protected from all that wish to destroy it, and it’s a never ending battle.

Plus, most of us have day jobs, too, often struggling to feed our own families. It’s hard to fight the battles against the evils in this world when we are having to keep cutting back year after year after year just to make sure there’s food on the table.

For instance, I work in the public schools as an educational assistant. I’ve been searching for a teaching job for three years with no one hiring me (though I’ve had over 70 interviews during this time). I would honestly get paid more flipping burgers at McDonald’s. My paychecks have been less year after year after year (in fact, even though I technically got a 1% raise this year, I’m actually bringing home less money due to insurance premiums rising and a 27th paycheck due to the calendar). However, I make too much for my wife and I to qualify for government assistance for anything other than student loan repayment. And, my rent is now almost $20 more than a single paycheck of mine. That makes it hard for me to donate money to any cause, regardless of how much good the cause does. So I understand why people sound apathetic - most really aren’t apathetic; they have to worry about taking care of their families first.

I do try to keep up with the pro-life cause, but my role is generally praying and informing others, and doing public action when I can.
 
njlisa said:
If you could change the society in one of the three following ways, which would you do:


  1. *]Ban all abortions
    *]Eliminate same-sex marriage and adoption
    *]Cure all cancer

    Please explain your choice. Thanks for participating!
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  1. But in any case - “Give me the patience to endure that which cannot be changed, the courage to change that which should be changed, and the wisdom to know the difference.” - Oliver J. Hart
 
powerofk said:
The thing with apathy isn’t that people don’t care - it’s that people are stretched thin. Some people really do not care. But most of us do care - it’s just that in order to fight for any specific cause well, we have to be able to focus on that one specific cause - especially if it’s one where we’re fighting demons and the prevailing culture, such as abortion or same-sex “marriage”. It’s interesting - our young people are much more pro-life than their parents, but, on the other hand, are also much more likely to support same-sex “marriage”. Our young are also much more skeptical about politicians who claim to be pro-life yet cut safety net programs that could help pregnant women in crisis situations and also back corporations that sponsor abortions and population control worldwide. Life must be protected from all that wish to destroy it, and it’s a never ending battle.

Plus, most of us have day jobs, too, often struggling to feed our own families. It’s hard to fight the battles against the evils in this world when we are having to keep cutting back year after year after year just to make sure there’s food on the table.

For instance, I work in the public schools as an educational assistant. I’ve been searching for a teaching job for three years with no one hiring me (though I’ve had over 70 interviews during this time). I would honestly get paid more flipping burgers at McDonald’s. My paychecks have been less year after year after year (in fact, even though I technically got a 1% raise this year, I’m actually bringing home less money due to insurance premiums rising and a 27th paycheck due to the calendar). However, I make too much for my wife and I to qualify for government assistance for anything other than student loan repayment. And, my rent is now almost $20 more than a single paycheck of mine. That makes it hard for me to donate money to any cause, regardless of how much good the cause does. So I understand why people sound apathetic - most really aren’t apathetic; they have to worry about taking care of their families first.

I do try to keep up with the pro-life cause, but my role is generally praying and informing others, and doing public action when I can.
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I agree. It is hard – whether because of work or other responsibilities, or even illness, to be involved in all the kinds of activism we’d like to. I hope you find a better paying job soon. 🙂
 
As a mother, I could only possible say abortion is the biggest threat. I think of my own children and it leads me to think of the children of starving African mothers with so much compassion and incentive to help. But to think of mothers who think that the best option is to attack and murder their little defenseless babies in their tummies, arms me with the full might of Gods wrath against the devil in defending pregnant mothers. There can’t be a more satanic rite than the killing of an unborn child.
 
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