What's the craziest Anti-Catholic whopper you've ever heard?

[BernadetteM]

Hi, Janks,

OK, I’ll bite … what is CARM…? Chances are I am not the only one on the list ignorant of this group.

God bless

CARM is a very anti Catholic website. The things that some protestants say about the Catholic Church and Catholics are so horrible that it is sometimes difficult to believe if some of them have an IQ above 20. They only go by their opinions, no facts to back up all their accusatioins against the teachings of the Church.

They love to say the worst possible descriptions of our Blessed Mother and desecrate the Holy Eucharist.

There are several good intentioned Catholics that go there to defend the faith, but it is useless as these people have closed hearts and are not open to truth. It is a very unhealthy website for anyone. They also personally attack Catholics instead of using facts to debate them.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette

 

[tqualey]

Hi, Bernadeltte,

Thanks for the information!

Life is short - and spending time with people who have already desided to criticize the Chruch founded by Christ … well… sounds like just a waste of my time! But, considering their real need - I have included them on my prayer list.

God bless

CARM is a very anti Catholic website. The things that some protestants say about the Catholic Church and Catholics are so horrible that it is sometimes difficult to believe if some of them have an IQ above 20. They only go by their opinions, no facts to back up all their accusatioins against the teachings of the Church.

They love to say the worst possible descriptions of our Blessed Mother and desecrate the Holy Eucharist.

There are several good intentioned Catholics that go there to defend the faith, but it is useless as these people have closed hearts and are not open to truth. It is a very unhealthy website for anyone. They also personally attack Catholics instead of using facts to debate them.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette

 

[wisdomseeker]

I just heard my friend(assemblies of God) telling me that we had a pope that was a woman. i dont knolw where she got that from. i thought it was funny.

 

[wisdomseeker]

who is inventor of such craziness?

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

CARM is a very anti Catholic website. The things that some protestants say about the Catholic Church and Catholics are so horrible that it is sometimes difficult to believe if some of them have an IQ above 20. They only go by their opinions, no facts to back up all their accusatioins against the teachings of the Church.

Checked out their site. It looks like just another Chick Publications only more intellectualized in rhetoric.

The lack of substance in the things they believe in still sadly remain.

 

[wisdomseeker]

Dont they use the Bible? i think they claim they are being led by HS.
involving the HS in a bunch of lies, is it not blasphemy? it seems to me that it is.

 

[tqualey]

Hi, Wisdomseeker,

While it is ‘funny’ it is basically fllklore. Used however as an anti-Catholic dart - it stops being funny very fast.

Here is a link you can use to refute this baseless lie: newadvent.org/cathen/08407a.htm. Oh, and you may want ot keep an eye on your ‘friend’ - ridiculing someone else’s faith doesn’t seem to friendly to me.

God bless

I just heard my friend(assemblies of God) telling me that we had a pope that was a woman. i dont knolw where she got that from. i thought it was funny.

 

[wisdomseeker]

Hi, Wisdomseeker,

While it is ‘funny’ it is basically fllklore. Used however as an anti-Catholic dart - it stops being funny very fast.

Here is a link you can use to refute this baseless lie: newadvent.org/cathen/08407a.htm. Oh, and you may want ot keep an eye on your ‘friend’ - ridiculing someone else’s faith doesn’t seem to friendly to me.

God bless

actually, we had a great conversation about the CC. i told her many things about the Church which she had no clue. i took advantage of the situation to show her what the CC is really about and why she teaches what she teaches. i even showed her the video on youtube when scott hahn was given his testimony. of course she tried to find everything wrong with what he was saying. these people are so convinced that they are right that is like trying to break concrete with a spoon.

 

[tqualey]

Hi, Wisdomseeker,

I really was not familiar with the AOG religion … so, went to a site to get a basic overview of it. Here is what I found:

actually, we had a great conversation about the CC. i told her many things about the Church which she had no clue. i took advantage of the situation to show her what the CC is really about and why she teaches what she teaches. i even showed her the video on youtube when scott hahn was given his testimony. of course she tried to find everything wrong with what he was saying. these people are so convinced that they are right that is like trying to break concrete with a spoon.

Largest Pentecostal denomination in the U.S. It was formed in 1914 in Hot Springs, Ark., by the union of several small Pentecostal groups. The Assemblies of God emphasize the centrality of the Bible in Christian faith and worship. Instead of sacraments, the Assemblies have two ordinances, baptism by total immersion and the Lord’s Supper. Personal sanctification is believed to happen gradually rather than instantaneously, and millennial doctrines dealing with Christ’s Second Coming and the establishment of the Kingdom of God are of great importance.

So, we have a group that formed up from various splinter groups in 1914. They claim the Catholic Bible (!) well…actually, the abridged version… as their sole authority - yet reject and ridicule the organization that gave them the infallable and inerrant document they cling to, yet make various and differing interpretations of what is said. Remarkable.

Glad to hear you did so well with this person. Best wishes on your next encounter.

God bless

 

[me_again]

I’ve read the following allegations in this SDA thread:

• Infant baptism is derived from worshiping the sun.
  .
• Jesuits wrote Mein Kampf.
  .
• The Catholic Church is the “whore” of Babylon.

What’s even worse is that there are people who actually believe this stuff. :ehh:

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

I’ve read the following allegations in this SDA thread:

• Infant baptism is derived from worshiping the sun.
  .
• Jesuits wrote Mein Kampf.
  .
• The Catholic Church is the “whore” of Babylon.

What’s even worse is that there are people who actually believe this stuff. :ehh:

I know a guy named Bingolly1 who makes excellent anti-SDA videos and he has quite a series that debunks their precious, Whore-of-Babylon “eschatology”. I can link to some of them if you want.

 

[tqualey]

Hi, Me again,

There are many people who are deceived by false spirtis - and in 1 John, we are told to test the spirits to see if they come from God.

This particular group can not provide credible references for the statements you listed below - and, that by itself should raise a big warning flag. As I appreciate the situation, you have a religious group that is totally focused on the traditions of men - and they appear to go to great lengths in only two areas: supporting Sabbath worship and bashing the Catholic Church. Everything else is far less intense!

I went to the link you provided, and it appears that you can get a wealth of material on this gorup and the Catholic Church’s teaching specific to each point. One of the interesting things about any tradition of man - you can usually identify God’s Word and what it says and then, put a date on when man decided to change it.

Two points to keep in mind: Christ (the Cornerstone) founded His Chruch (and, that would be the Catholic Church) on Peter. Christ promised the Gates of Hell would not prevail and that His Holy Spirit is guiding His Church so that it can never teach error (or retract / refine / modify etc doctrines - check out the SDAs end of the world predictions.)

God bless

I’ve read the following allegations in this SDA thread:

• Infant baptism is derived from worshiping the sun.
  .
• Jesuits wrote Mein Kampf.
  .
• The Catholic Church is the “whore” of Babylon.

What’s even worse is that there are people who actually believe this stuff. :ehh:

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

Well at the request of me again, here’s just a taste of Bingolly1’s vids on YouTube.

youtube.com/watch?v=J9L-5nuU5W8 - This one deals with the dishonesty of an SDA YouTube “apologist” regarding the 666 conspiracy.

 

[Zooey]

I’ve read the following allegations in this SDA thread:

• Infant baptism is derived from worshiping the sun.
  .
• Jesuits wrote Mein Kampf.
  .
• The Catholic Church is the “whore” of Babylon.

What’s even worse is that there are people who actually believe this stuff. :ehh:

Mein Kampf???
And again, I ask: Why is it always the Jesuits???
Where are all the urban myths about, say, the Carmelites???

 

[BernadetteM]

Hi, Bernadeltte,

Thanks for the information!

Life is short - and spending time with people who have already desided to criticize the Chruch founded by Christ … well… sounds like just a waste of my time! But, considering their real need - I have included them on my prayer list.

God bless

Your very welcome.

God Bless

Bernadette

 

[Dylpickleh8]

I live in UK and they don’t like guns here. Does that make me less Catholic? I am very worried. I don’t have a basement either.

However, I have a veritable army of Catholic cats in my neighbourhood. I live next door to a Baptist church. My parish priest came to bless my house and he blessed them too; some intentionally and some by accident. The holy water was very wet that day. They were just appearing out of the blue. I live in a Franciscan parish. Could it be that these cats are forming some kind of underground group with the Franciscans and through them to the Jesuits?

When I first read this, I thought some random Baptists wandered over and your priest blessed the,.

 

[losh14]

There’s not too much originality in anti-Catholic rhetoric.

• Infant baptism is derived from worshiping the sun.
  .

This is probably from Hislop’s “The Two Babylons”, which has long since been discredited. Hislop, a calvinist, went to great contrivances to link Catholicism (and all forms of paganism) to the same mystery religion as practiced in ancient Babylon.

• Jesuits wrote Mein Kampf.
  .

I’m suspicious of claims about the Jesuits. They’re one of the most well-known orders in the U.S. and so make a convenient target. I think some of the anti-Jesuit sentiment stems from their being a more intellectually-focused order who was seen as competition against the Freemasons during the Englightenment.

• The Catholic Church is the “whore” of Babylon.

One Adventist organization distributes a text called “National Sunday Law” which asserts this as a central claim. I don’t think it’s all Adventists who assert this eschatology, though this isn’t limited to just Adventists. It’s a common claim to run into.

 

[minkymurph]

I’ve read the following allegations in this SDA thread:

• Infant baptism is derived from worshiping the sun.
  .
• Jesuits wrote Mein Kampf.
  .
• The Catholic Church is the “whore” of Babylon.

What’s even worse is that there are people who actually believe this stuff. :ehh:

You could argue that blood sacrifice is derived from pagan rituals. They existed before the Exodus.

Was Hitler a Jesuit?

Someone on this site jokingly suggested that Jerry Springer is the whore of Babylon and the anti-christ as he is from Philedelphia and it sits on 7 hills.

 

[jmcrae]

You could argue that blood sacrifice is derived from pagan rituals. They existed before the Exodus.

It probably was. That doesn’t mean God didn’t put it to good use.

Was Hitler a Jesuit?

No. Apparently as a baby he was baptized in the Catholic Church, but was not raised in it, and by the time he was an adult, he had taken on some kind of Norse pagan belief system.

Someone on this site jokingly suggested that Jerry Springer is the whore of Babylon and the anti-christ as he is from Philedelphia and it sits on 7 hills.

It has the ring of truth … npatrol:

 

[Dylpickleh8]

Did you know Jim Jones (The Kool-Aid dude) was a Jesuit?

“Rev.” Jim Jones (Mr. Cool-Aid) was a powerful warlock and a well trained Jesuit. On Nov. 18, 1978, in Jones town, Guyana, he ordered 900 of his brainwashed followers to commit suicide by drinking Cool-Aid.

reformation.org/brainwashed.html