What's the difference between Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses?

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i think one difference is the bible the jw change the word god to jehovah and they are also
the biggest nusiences. they call here often at 9.00am - 10.00 on a saturday and they
don’t understand the word no thank-you and will repeatedly call back pushing the leaflets
through the door. 😛
 
JW do not recognize Jesus claim of " I am " in the gospel of John but then neither do Mormons.
 
I’ve been expected to go to “weekly mandated meetings” but no on has ever even mentioned not attending non-Catholic services. That attending the non-Catholic services does not replace my “weekly mandated meetings” yes, but not that I couldn’t or shouldn’t attend them. No one has ever in my entire life told me not to attend non-Catholic services.
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Either have I.

A mormon friend of mine was hurt so deeply, it hurt me to see her hurt. She and her husband loved the Mormon church. She told me that her best friend a hispanic lady would go with her to services and she in turn would go with her to church. Until her elders found out and forbade her to go to church with her. I felt like I betrayed her she said, and she kept on loving me. needless to say, as I write this, I still hurt for her. And tho I never got to know her friend, I admired her for being a good example of how, well of 1 Corinthians 13 Hope, Faith and Love.

Sure hope this makes any sense to you all.

God bless

jesus g
 
I believe Catholics also go to weekly mandated meetings, and are strongly discouraged from attending non-Catholic services. 😛
Hi, attending our mandated meeting, Mass, is a choice of conscience. No one is watching to see if we are there, marking us as present or absent, calling us if we didn’t show up, or denying people charity because they aren’t attending Mass.
 
Hi, attending our mandated meeting, Mass, is a choice of conscience. No one is watching to see if we are there, marking us as present or absent, calling us if we didn’t show up, or denying people charity because they aren’t attending Mass.
So your parish does not use pre-printed collection envelopes? 🙂
 
If you look at the similarities between the two, it might be just as surprising and thought provoking as looking at the differences. 🤷
 
So your parish does not use pre-printed collection envelopes? 🙂
Mine does. But if I choose not to use them, no one will ask why. The envelopes are merely a way of keeping track of my donations (if I want to) so that the parish can issue me a letter at year’s end totaling my contributions so I can submit it with my Schedule A for a tax deduction.

Many people just throw some money in the basket each week and so remain completely anonymous and some don’t contribute at all. Nobody cares and no priest will pull them aside to ask about it.

In the Mormon church, every member is called to a meeting with the bishop at the end of the year for “tithing settlement”. The member has to declare whether or not he has paid the full 10% tithe. If he has not, the bishop gives him a certain amount of time to come up with the money or face disciplinary action. The member can lose his callings and have his temple recommend revoked if he fails to pay a full tithe.

When I was a Mormon, I was twice asked to bring my last pay stub of the year so that the bishop could move the decimal point and check the amount against his records of my tithing for the year. I’m sure it was just that bishop’s way of doing things, but I really didn’t like it. It felt like “big brother” didn’t trust me.

Paul (formerly LDS, now happily Catholic)
 
So your parish does not use pre-printed collection envelopes? 🙂
You don’t have to use a collection envelope if you don’t want to. Cash or check is perfectly acceptable.

No attendance is taken either.
 
If you look at the similarities between the two, it might be just as surprising and thought provoking as looking at the differences. 🤷
There are only so many ways to collect offererings. There are similarities across all churches, and differences of course.
 
Hi, attending our mandated meeting, Mass, is a choice of conscience. No one is watching to see if we are there, marking us as present or absent, calling us if we didn’t show up, or denying people charity because they aren’t attending Mass.
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I always get the two mixed up and I know I could search it on google but I’d prefer to hear it from a Catholic perspective. So what’s the difference between mormons and jehovahs witnesses (other than jehovah’s witnesses love to come and witness to me at home on Saturday at 9am)?
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints was established when a young man named Joseph Smith professed to have visions and revelations which allowed him to “restore” the true church. He was the first “Prophet” and president of that church, widely called “Mormon” because Joseph’s first revelations centered around the unveiling of aadditional book of scripture called the Book of Mormon.

After Smith’s death, his own visions and revelations were collected into two additional books of Scripture. So, Mormons, or LDS, have 4 books of Scripture: the Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price.

Mormons are very mainstream, conservative, and American in their outlook. They are probably hard to distinguish from traditional Catholics or Evangelical Christians. They are easygoing and put a lot of stress on freeagency. So their missionaries probably aren’t going to be as pushy or obnoxious.

Mormon beliefs are a pretty good deal off from Catholicism: they use Christian sounding language, but their theology diverges from historic Christianity in many ways.

Jehovah’s Witnesses began after the peak of the Second Adventist movement in America, in the 1870’s. Charles Taze Russell began as a bible teacher, his followers initially calling themselves the International Bible Students Association. The organization may have had American roots, as others have said, but it quickly became popular in Europe as well as America.

Russell’s stock-in-trade was setting dates for the Second Comming. His first dates were seriously wrong. His third attempt to discern the date of Christ’s return coincided with the First World War. This is important because this war was so traumatic that it seemed as if the end of the world was near. This led to a huge growth in the Bible Students.

Unfortunately, Russell died before the war ended. His leadership was taken over by a fellow named Ratherford. Rutherford took what Russell had established and built on it. In the years before WWII, the Bible Students were stridently anti-Catholic, antiwar, and anti-patriotic. Basically, Rutherford created in his followers a bunker mentality and a persecution complex which made them rather insular and a bit oppositional to outsiders.

To a great extent, the Witnesses retain this somewhat paranoid culture to this day. They lack a lot of the warmth of the LDS, and take pride in being a “people-apart” from others.

Hope this helps
 
i think one difference is the bible the jw change the word god to jehovah and they are also the biggest nusiences. they call here often at 9.00am - 10.00 on a saturday and they don’t understand the word no thank-you and will repeatedly call back pushing the leaflets through the door. 😛
In the OT of their New World Translation they use the name Jehovah for the Tegragrammaton, which is revealed by the consonants YHWH. There are other Bible translations that do this at least in a few areas in the OT, and some do it for the 6000+ times the name is used (ASV for example.)

Now, if you are referring to their insertion of the Hebrew name of God in the New Testament of scriptures, then I would totally agree on this point. They openly admit in their literature that there is no evidence that the Hebrew Tetragrammaton was ever in any known manuscript of the New Testament, but they replace the Greek Word for Lord or God with “Jehovah” in some 160 or so places in the NT. They have altered the Word of God to intentionally change the meaning of scripture to ensure it does not contradict their view of “truth.”
 
They use the man made name , trying to show that they are on a close personal relationship with GOD, first name basis.in their own writing they say that jehovah is not the most proper way to say it, but the anglo saxton translation is the most recognized . “I’AM”. But every knee shall bow down to the name of JESUS, IN HEAVEN, ON EARTH AND BELOW.
 
Just a few things that I see have not been mentioned yet:

Although the LDS “Elders” at your front door might not tell you about it, the LDS church doctrine teaches that there are three levels of heaven, terrestrial, telestial, and celestial. Once you get into one, you’re stuck there for all eternity. For the really wicked folks there is the outer darkness

Another thing the LDS church likes to avoid is the fact that Joseph Smith was working on his own “translation” of the Bible, but met an untimely demise before it could be published. The bits that were published pretty much butchered the text. Some Mormon sects still use it today.

Also, the Mormons have temples, which are off limits to all but church members that are in the churches view upstanding in character (known to the rest of the world as hardcore) Before being able to set foot in the temple the prospective member has to be married for all eternity with their spouse (not sure what happens if you are not married, I only know from the case of my grandparents).

In summation, avoid the LDS church and the Jehovahs Witnesses like the plague.:onpatrol:
 
Just a few things that I see have not been mentioned yet:

Although the LDS “Elders” at your front door might not tell you about it, the LDS church doctrine teaches that there are three levels of heaven, terrestrial, telestial, and celestial. Once you get into one, you’re stuck there for all eternity. For the really wicked folks there is the outer darkness
When I met with the missionaries, they told me about the degrees of glory.
Another thing the LDS church likes to avoid is the fact that Joseph Smith was working on his own “translation” of the Bible, but met an untimely demise before it could be published. The bits that were published pretty much butchered the text. Some Mormon sects still use it today.
All Mormon Bibles (i.e. the KJV) contain parts of the Joseph Smith Translation as footnotes and in the appendix. They also canonized other parts as the Book of Moses and Joseph Smith-Matthew in the Pearl of Great Price.
Also, the Mormons have temples, which are off limits to all but church members that are in the churches view upstanding in character (known to the rest of the world as hardcore)
Not really. It is accessible only to believing and practicing Mormons that go through a “temple recommend interview”. Nothing really “hardcore” about them (or should I say “us”? technically I still have a rec).
Before being able to set foot in the temple the prospective member has to be married for all eternity with their spouse (not sure what happens if you are not married, I only know from the case of my grandparents).
:confused: No. To set foot in the temple after it’s dedicated, you need a “temple recommend”, given after interview with the bishop and stake president. You don’t have to be married for all eternity.
In summation, avoid the LDS church and the Jehovahs Witnesses like the plague.:onpatrol:
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When I was LDS, there was open speculation about whether part of the ‘work’ of the inhabitants of the Celestial Kingdom might not be to gradually win some members of the Terrestrial and Telestial kingdoms. There is just enough “wiggle room” in the LDS scriptures to permit some speculation.

In any case, most non-LDS go after death to the place called Spirit Prison, where they are afforded one last opportunity to receive the LDS Gospel and enter the Celestial Kingdom. Those who go to the Terrestrial or Telestial Kingdom do so with full knowledge of the choices they make.

And Mormon eternity is no less eternal in the end than Catholic eternity: we also believe that souls go to their final destiny forever.

I personally see in the Three Heavens theory the effort of Joseph Smith to provide space for his own family–many of them unbaptised and/or unbelievers in this present life–to have an opportunity they would otherwise have missed. This isn’t original with me but is something I picked up from a former LDS and scholar whose name eludes me now. It’s the most compassionate way of reading the life and misadventures of Joseph Smith, IMHO.

EDIT. Dan Vogel and Robert Hullinger are the two names I was trying to dredge up.
 
When I met with the missionaries, they told me about the degrees of glory.
I asked some after they found out I was a Protestant Christian and they kind of dodged the question. My guess is that they were trying to make Mormonism sound more in line with mainstream Christianity. I guess as with all groups quality varies.

Also, thank you for the clarifications on the temple part. I recently visited Temple Square in Salt Lake City and that was the impression that I got from the church history museum and the temple visitors centers. Once again thank you for clarifying that, I really hate telling people the wrong facts about things.😊
 
I asked some after they found out I was a Protestant Christian and they kind of dodged the question. My guess is that they were trying to make Mormonism sound more in line with mainstream Christianity. I guess as with all groups quality varies.

Also, thank you for the clarifications on the temple part. I recently visited Temple Square in Salt Lake City and that was the impression that I got from the church history museum and the temple visitors centers. Once again thank you for clarifying that, I really hate telling people the wrong facts about things.😊
Older temples are frequently decommissioned while being refurbished. They are then open to the public for approximately one to two months before being rededicated. The Temple in SLC was thus decommissioned several years back, and my wife and I went to see the St. Louis Missouri temple prior to it’s dedication.
 
They use the man made name , trying to show that they are on a close personal relationship with GOD, first name basis.in their own writing they say that jehovah is not the most proper way to say it, but the anglo saxton translation is the most recognized . “I’AM”. But every knee shall bow down to the name of JESUS, IN HEAVEN, ON EARTH AND BELOW.
JW’s say very mistakenly Jesus Christ is actually Michael the Archangel. :eek:

Where do scriptures say:

We all will be judged by an angel
An angel is the Lord, Emmanuel “God with us”
Every knee shall bow down to an angel
An angel has the power to forgive sin
and on and on and on…
 
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