What's your opinion on Orthodoxy?

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I have a great respect for the Orthodox brothers and sisters. One of my heart’s greatest desires is that we and the Orthodox will one day be reconciled and in full communion with one another. Can one even imagine what a glorious body of believers that would be? Let us all pray that that happens in our life times.
 
Marc_Anthony said:
I think that the Latin Church could benefit from adopting some of the ideas of the Orthodox Church. Happily, they are moving a bit East theologically (Latin ideas of Original Sin being a notable example), and I’d like to see that continue.
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I agree that we (Latin Catholicism) can definitely benefit and grow from rediscovering the teachings and nuances of the Eastern Churches, and I do see signs of that.
 
Orthodox are our brethren,and it is very sad that we are seperated.I hope one day we will unite again in the name of God,Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.
 
That what I believe too,although we believe that Orthodoxy and Hellenism is one,and these are what make up Greece.So (that’s what we say) if you are Greek it means that you are Orthodox Christian.In that sense,there is no national or religion identity.
 
Mark_Antony said:
TSo (that’s what we say) if you are Greek it means that you are Orthodox Christian.In that sense,there is no national or religion identity.
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Tell that to Vasilis92, the guy above your post. He’s Greek and Catholic 😃
 
Marc_Anthony said:
I think that the Latin Church could benefit from adopting some of the ideas of the Orthodox Church. Happily, they are moving a bit East theologically (Latin ideas of Original Sin being a notable example), and I’d like to see that continue.

By the way, I like your username 😉
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What about Latin ideas of Original Sin?Could you explain? 🙂

I just realized they are almost similar 😃 I like Marc Anthony (the singer I mean)
Vasilis92 said:
Orthodox are our brethren,and it is very sad that we are separated.I hope one day we will unite again in the name of God,Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.
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I find it very difficult,it is 1000 years since we separated,we have different doctrines and our own ways of “doing” liturgies.But I hope too that we will unite again brother (literally 😃 )
 
Credo_ergo_sum said:
Tell that to Vasilis92, the guy above your post. He’s Greek and Catholic 😃
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Hahahahaha.
He happens to be my eldest brother. 😃
His conversion was a sad story for our siblings but I think that’s fine.He can choose to be whatever he feels is better.But as I said,it is strange (and unorthodox) to be Greek and Catholic.
 
Mark_Antony said:
But as I said,it is strange (and unorthodox) to be Greek and Catholic.
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How being Catholic affects my nationality?
I totally agree with (name removed by moderator).For example take Mark Vamvakaris (a legend in greek music).He was a Roman Catholic,does that mean he was …less Greek?

Also,(name removed by moderator) you said it completely right in your “religion”:First Catholic,then “nationality” and last “political status”. 👍
 
Mark_Antony said:
Hahahahaha.
He happens to be my eldest brother. 😃
His conversion was a sad story for our siblings but I think that’s fine.He can choose to be whatever he feels is better.But as I said,it is strange (and unorthodox) to be Greek and Catholic.
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Isn’t that something. 🙂

I have no issue with any of the Orthodox Churchs, I do believe we need be in communion though at this stage in time. Better for world Christianity in Orthodoxy.
 
I can understand the argument for having the Eucharist multiple times a week, but why should it be offered multiple times a day?
 
Mark_Antony said:
Could you state the parts in the Bible which show Pope’s authority?

When you say Mass,I suppose you mean Divine Liturgy. :rolleyes:
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There’s so many passages…for example:
  1. Peter is mentioned 195 times in the NT more than all other apostles combined while the next most mentioned apostle, John, was mentioned only 30 times.
  2. Also, with only 2 exceptions Peter is always mentioned 1st when named with apostles.
  3. Matthew 16:13-19 & Isaiah 22:20-25 Isaiah prophecy’s about the old hierchy of the chair of Moses being replaced with the Papacy the chair of Peter & in Matthew that prophecy is fulfilled when Jesus selects Peter as the “Rock” & gives him the “Keys” to open & shut/bind & loose. Then at the crucifixion when the Temple 3 foot thick Jewish Temple veil was ripped by God from top to bottom finalized God’s official removal of the chair of Moses replacing it with the chair of Peter.
  4. In the NT book of Acts, Peter infallibly interpreted the OT determining that the “office” left void with the suicide of Judas needed to be filled.
  5. In Acts 15 at the council of Jerusalem after there had been much disputing Peter spoke & everyone shut up and there was no more disputing after he spoke. Then James, the bishop of the city of Jerusalem did just as Peter determined.
  6. Of course, we can’t forget about OT examples of the chief stewardship of the Papacy, like Joseph who was appointed by Pharoah to be 2nd to the Pharoah in control of all of Egypt likewise the Pope was appointed by Jesus to be 2nd to Jesus Christ in all the Universe.
  7. John 21:15-19 Jesus reinstates & elevates Peter to not only “feed his lambs” the Christian Faithful with the Living Word (Bible & Eucharist), but to even “tend to his sheep” rule over the apostles who also feed the lambs & to “feed his sheep” the Apostles with the Living Word (Bible & Eucharist).
Many, many, many more Bible passages show the Papacy, but I don’t have time to list all the verses I know & there are more that I don’t know, I’m not pretending to know every Biblical reference that shows the Papacy.

Right, the words Mass & Divine Liturgy refer to the same Holy Service. 👍
 
Nine_Two said:
I can understand the argument for having the Eucharist multiple times a week, but why should it be offered multiple times a day?
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Because everyone’s schedule differs and with more than one daily Mass available it allows a chance for everyone to attend.

For mothers like me who work fulltime & have children from infant to teen - attending Mass in the AM is impossible the vast majority of the time, but I’m usually able to attend the 7:30 PM Masses and still manage to attend to all of my work related & household related responsibilities as well as meeting the needs of my children. I don’t know about anybody else, but I need the Eucharist to make it through! 👍

And then what about nurses & doctors who must work a Sunday morning shift…they’re work is a necessity for the lives of others who depend on them, but if Sunday morning is the only time Mass is offered, then they have no hope to receive the Eucharist 😦 sad!
 
There is a heresy known to Orthodox as phyletism, it means putting ethnithicity and nationallity above the Orthodox faith.

The first Orthodox church I visited was in the Greek Othodox Archdiocese in North America. The people there were for the most part standoffish, just becuase I wasn’t a Greek. At the time the entire liturgy and even homily were in Greek. This in Texas. Later they had an altar boy come out and read the gospel in English after the deacon had read it in Greek. Needless to say I was discouraged about Holy Orthodoxy.

Many years later an OCA mission opened and I was finally chrismated.

But the church of the Dormition (Assumption) to me was more a greek social club
than a church.

Perhaps I should not air dirty Orhodox laundry in public, and there are friendier Greek churches, but I still oppose phyletism and always will.
 
Mark_Antony said:
What about Latin ideas of Original Sin?Could you explain? 🙂

I just realized they are almost similar 😃 I like Marc Anthony (the singer I mean)
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I had no idea Marc Anthony was the name of a singer. My username is a pun on my real name, which I do not like to give over the internet…I leave it to all of you to try and figure out what my real name is based off of my username. 😉

Anyway, the traditional Latin Catholic idea of Original Sin sees it as a punishment inflicted on all of humanity due to Adam’s sin…it’s very punitive in nature. In the Catechism of the Catholic Church you can definitely see that the Latin Church is starting to lean East in its understanding of Original Sin.

[If you think this is vague, you’d be right, because I’m only REALLY familiar with the Catechism of the Catholic Church’s idea of Original Sin and only know that it differs from the traditional Latin version due to my excellent Apologetics teacher.]
 
ComeHome2Rome said:
Because everyone’s schedule differs and with more than one daily Mass available it allows a chance for everyone to attend.

For mothers like me who work fulltime & have children from infant to teen - attending Mass in the AM is impossible the vast majority of the time, but I’m usually able to attend the 7:30 PM Masses and still manage to attend to all of my work related & household related responsibilities as well as meeting the needs of my children. I don’t know about anybody else, but I need the Eucharist to make it through! 👍

And then what about nurses & doctors who must work a Sunday morning shift…they’re work is a necessity for the lives of others who depend on them, but if Sunday morning is the only time Mass is offered, then they have no hope to receive the Eucharist 😦 sad!
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Fair enough.

I don’t entirely agree that it is necessary, but I think you have valid reasons for it. I was curious about your reasoning so I’ll thank you for your reply and leave it at that so we don’t disrupt this thread. 🙂
 
Mark_Antony said:
I always wonder,what Catholics and Protestants think about Orthodoxy?In general,we (Orthodox) are hostile to Catholics (because of the arrogance of the Popes) and a bit to Protestants.
Feel free to share your opinion 🙂

PS I’m not hostile to anyone.We are all Christians.
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Well, I’m still learning -but do the Orthodox have all the same Sacraments as the Catholic Church…?
 
The rule in Orthodoxy is one liturgy per day at one altar.

It would be possible to have two if the temple has more than one altar.
 
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