Well, given that the Israeli Arabs prefer living in Israel, and the Palestinians are hopping mad and lobbing rockets every chance they get despite actually being supplied multiple services by Israel, or that originate in Israel, despite having already declared war on Israel: I’d say they’re doing a fine job of working out the implementation of those scriptures.
How would you define “terrorism or dishonest tactics”? I ask because you can find an extensive list of assassinations credited to the Mossad (Israel’s intelligence service) and to the Israeli armed forces here. Note that it includes such things as car bombs, parcel bombs, et c. which under most circumstances would generally be considered terrorist tactics. Though I’m sure that our pro-Israel crowd here can justify/rationalize assassination, which last time I checked is a fancy word for “murder.”
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I don’t support either side and I don’t see why so many Americans are concerned about Israel. Why is Israel more important then Armenia?
Uhhh, no. It’s after 8 exhaustive years of studying the culture and “religion” that I arrive at the conclusion, having vacillated myself into once looking at it from “their” side too intently that I embarked on a journey of all but explicitly rejecting every Christian value I had. It was upon the realization of this, and the knowledge I gleaned as a result, that I came to a place where I also understood the conservative political viewpoint I had previously eschewed. I was finally able to connect the dots and found a link in both.
I’m glad you’ve found the answers you need. I will pray for you.
Thank you
, I’ll let the sarcasm merely pass by. hat tip There is much history here, which time and space doesn't permit covering. **The initial US mistake is that Palestinians forced out of their homes in 1948 should have been generously compensated for their property**, Instead, the Palestinians were treated like dirt then and since then. I am a senior and was strongly pro-Israel until my mind was opened in 1956 when Israel, together with Britain and France, attacked Egypt. Then I began to read both sides and realized that there are two sides.** Among the many problems I have is this: why does Israel keep grabbing land and building settlements on what little is left of Palestinian territory?!** The US and the rest of the world has opposed this, but it goes on and on. It makes Israel appear to be the aggressor, inflexible, determined to occupy every inch of the West Bank. Meanwhile, we give $4 billion and more every year to the Israelis while they thumb their noses at our interests. **As for Gaza, Hamas initially was supported by Israel as a antidote to Arafat.** Israel left Gaza because it was too costly to govern over a million restless Arabs. Israeli policy for years has been a principal cause of Muslim terrorism.
**What kind of democracy occupies land for so many decades**, refuses to allow inhabitants in those areas the right to vote, keeps building roads in them for Jews only, continuously violates international law, and - by the way - strictly forbid Christian evangelism?The point is that you seem to think that “8 exhaustive years of studying the culture and ‘religion’” legitimizes a point of view that is - in my opinion - appalling, and also completely out of line with Church teaching regarding those who accept our God as Creator. I have no problem with people expressing their opinions, but you seem to think that your “exhaustive” personal study makes your opinion the “truth” and somehow more valid than Church proclamations (namely, Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate).Thank you
While you’re at it, please pray for the mohammedan global community, for they are at somewhere around 1.5Billion and growing. That’s a lot of souls. May they convert lest they kill us all.
You know, I thought this myself before, not just the state, but if Israel were to provide help in developing a Palestinian economy and infrastructure, perhaps they wouldn’t be so angry? Poverty and boredom are good grounds for growing militarism, prosperity, economic choices, and education will prevent it from gaining hold.
And a careful reading of the two documents, as well as understanding certain realities which those documents make no mention of, result in my understanding of mohammedanism and mohammedan adherents.
I don’t have an issue with your understanding of the tenets of orthodox Islam, so to speak…that’s what you’ve gained through your extensive study and that’s fine. And I accept that you claim not to hate its adherents. My issue is that your language encourages hate and fear in others by making such sweeping generalizations. It creates a negative emotional wake. I also find the notion that you seem to see yourself as a crusader, voicing the truth that the “Church dare not,” to be…interesting, to say the least.And a careful reading of the two documents, as well as understanding certain realities which those documents make no mention of, result in my understanding of mohammedanism and mohammedan adherents.
Don’t get it twisted. I don’t hate mohammedan adherents. I do, however, recognize how evil the system in which they’re trying to attain salvation is, as well as the fact that despite all “la la la la la la!” protestations to the contrary, I am not misrepresenting mohammedanism and its historical or modern goals- eradication of paganism, Christianity, and Judaism via the following methods:
Pagans- convert or die. That is the only choice. If they’re not Christian or Jewish, they have to convert, or die. That’s koranic and in line with hadith.
Christians- convert or pay jizya tax to live as a dhimmi, or die if you refuse either; eventually convert or die.
Jews- same as Christians.
Systemically, mohammedanism is practically a checklist for persecution against the Church. Historically, this is the case. Modernly, this is the case.
That you somehow segue a voiced reality into me disagreeing with the Church is erroneous. I don’t disagree with the Church, I agree with the Church and expound on that which the Church can’t lest the Church ring the bell of mohammedan persecution on all Christians world-wide.
The Church is playing this situation with a globally-minded slant, for to do otherwise would bring on outright persecution globally. It’s very similar in my opinion to the seeming “silence” of Pope Pius XII.
Boko Haram is mohammedanism, Al-qaeda is mohammedanism, any jihadist is mohammedanism. Your friendly co-worker who has never spent a day in the Middle East and happens to be mohammedan, is not mohammedanism at its core nor in its most liberal application of koran and hadith.
The bad mohammedan adherent is friendly and peaceful; the good adherent is violent and would do all manner of unspeakable things to you, me, and us if/when they have the chance.
Or you could just keep believing their propaganda.
I see lies being spread about mohammedanism to a degree where Christians are falling to their carefully laid traps. Dude, this ain’t some small deal. It is the fastest growing religion in the world. Here in the West its relatively miniscule and only holds sway due to the oil, and the propaganda machine CAIR (who, by the way, are named as co-conspirators in the Holy Land charity scam where they were funneling money to terrorists in “Palestine”).