When All souls' falls on Sunday

[Ite_ad_Ioseph]

…is it transferred to Monday?

Pax

 

[tee_eff_em]

…is it transferred to Monday?

Pax

No, it replaces the Sunday of Ordinary Time.

Table of Liturgical Days

1. Easter triduum of the Lord’s passion and resurrection.

1. Christmas, Epiphany, Ascension, and Pentecost.
   Sundays of Advent, Lent, and the Easter season.
   Ash Wednesday.
   Weekdays of Holy Week from Monday to Thursday inclusive.
   Days within the octave of Easter.

1. Solemnities of the Lord, the Blessed Virgin Mary, and saints listed in the General Calendar.

All Souls.

1. Proper Solemnities, namely:
   a. Solemnity of the principal patron of the place, that is, the city or state.
   b. Solemnity of the dedication of a particular church and the anniversary.
   c. Solemnity of the title, or of the founder, or of the principal patron of a religious order or congregation.
   II

1. Feasts of the Lord in the General Calendar.

1. Sundays of the Christmas season and

Sundays in Ordinary Time

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tee
Liturgical Calendar Nerd

 

[DoubtingPeter]

Very nice!

Question #2

is the litany of saints allowed that Sun

or on any all saints day?

Thanks!

 

[FrDavid96]

Very nice!

Question #2

is the litany of saints allowed that Sun

or on any all saints day?

Thanks!

1. What do you mean by “allowed”? Whether or not a Litany is “allowed” depends on the timing and the circumstances. Outside of Mass, or the Liturgy of the Hours, generally speaking, the Litany of the Saints may be used. If there is a Baptism on All Souls Day, then certainly the Litany of the Saints may be used because it’s part of the Baptism rite.
2. The question was about All Souls Day. Are you asking if the Litany of the Saints is “allowed” on All Souls Day? If so, there’s nothing prohibiting the Litany of the Saints on All Souls Day, however, it would seem that some other Litany would be more appropriate. In any case, there’s no Litany of the Saints in the All Souls Day Mass (nor any other Litany)—so for the Mass itself, the Litany of the Saints is not allowed.

If a parish has Exposition of the Blessed Sacrament on All Souls Day, would the Litany of the Saints be allowed? Yes. That’s one example.

 

[SuscipeMeDomine]

Is the OP perhaps confusing All Saints and All Souls days?

All Saints Day falls on November 1. In the US it is a holy day of obligation unless it falls on a Saturday or Monday, in which case the obligation is abrogated. When it falls on a Sunday (as it does this year) it is celebrated on Sunday.

All Souls day falls on November 2. It is not a holy day of obligation. I believe that if it falls on a Sunday it is celebrated on Sunday rather than the Sunday of Ordinary Time but someone else can verify that.

 

[FrDavid96]

Is the OP perhaps confusing All Saints and All Souls days?

All Saints Day falls on November 1. In the US it is a holy day of obligation unless it falls on a Saturday or Monday, in which case the obligation is abrogated. When it falls on a Sunday (as it does this year) it is celebrated on Sunday.

All Souls day falls on November 2. It is not a holy day of obligation. I believe that if it falls on a Sunday it is celebrated on Sunday rather than the Sunday of Ordinary Time but someone else can verify that.

All Souls Day is always celebrated on November 2—even if it falls on a Sunday.

Because of its place in the calendar, if it falls on Sunday, it must be a Sunday in Ordinary Time. That’s not just the obvious “well, it can’t be a Sunday in Lent.” Because of when it happens, there is no other day that might conflict.

In any case, the norms for the calendar specify All Souls is always celebrated. It is unique in that regard because while it is listed in the table of precedence, there is a specific norm making it an exception so that even if it “could” conflict with a higher day in the calendar, it’s still celebrated.

 

[DoubtingPeter]

mea culpa
mea culpa



I misread the question…

The answers were great- Thank You!

 

[Ite_ad_Ioseph]

Thanks for everyone’s answers! I went to a Latin Mass once where all souls’ fell on Sunday and I swore under those rubrics that the celebration was supposed to be moved to the next day.
What is the liturgical color for All Souls? at the Latin Mass the priest wore black. It is the only time I have seen black vestments in real life.

 

[tee_eff_em]

Thanks for everyone’s answers! I went to a Latin Mass once where all souls’ fell on Sunday and I swore under those rubrics that the celebration was supposed to be moved to the next day.
What is the liturgical color for All Souls? at the Latin Mass the priest wore black. It is the only time I have seen black vestments in real life.

The color of the day may be white, violet, or black.

tee

 

[Elizium23]

Thanks for everyone’s answers! I went to a Latin Mass once where all souls’ fell on Sunday and I swore under those rubrics that the celebration was supposed to be moved to the next day.

Yes, it is moved to Monday if it falls on a Sunday, according to the General Roman Calendar of 1960 and the 1962 rubrics of the Extraordinary Form.

 

[Chatter163]

In the Extraordinary Form, Mass for the Dead is never said on a Sunday, so when All Souls falls on a Sunday, as it did last year, then it is transferred to the next day.

 

[Usige]

The color of the day may be white, violet, or black.

tee

That is true in the ordinary form, but in the extraordinary form they follow Henry Ford in that you can use any color as long as it’s black.

I believe the EF only allows for violet on all souls if the Mass is offered with exposition for the 40 hours devotion, but I don’t remember where I read that. White is never approved for Masses for the Dead in the extraordinary form.

 

[tee_eff_em]

That is true in the ordinary form, but in the extraordinary form they follow Henry Ford in that you can use any color as long as it’s black.

I believe the EF only allows for violet on all souls if the Mass is offered with exposition for the 40 hours devotion, but I don’t remember where I read that. White is never approved for Masses for the Dead in the extraordinary form.

Thanks.

If I had been speaking to the “extraordinary form” I would have said so, the situation being…extraordinary.

Since [post=13391386]the questioner[/post] seemed familiar with the “extraordinary form”, I could only imagine he was asking about ordinary circumstances. *Mea culpa *if I was mistaken.

plain spoken, ordinary tee

 

[Usige]

Thanks.

If I had been speaking to the “extraordinary form” I would have said so, the situation being…extraordinary.

Since [post=13391386]the questioner[/post] seemed familiar with the “extraordinary form”, I could only imagine he was asking about ordinary circumstances. *Mea culpa *if I was mistaken.

plain spoken, ordinary tee

My apologies if I offended you. Your response to post number eight was talking about the liturgical color for all Souls Day and that at a Latin Mass (I assume the poster was talking about an EF) they saw the priest wearing black. It was unclear if they were asking about the liturgical colors for All Souls under the OF or EF so I was merely making sure to be clear to differentiate between the colors for the OF vs the EF as the discussion had already covered the differences around All Souls being moved or not under the two different uses. Had the discussion not already broached the differences I would not have expanded on your answer.