When Christians die

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I blame Clarence in “It’s a Wonderful Life” he was a human once but was working on getting his wings to be a full fledged angel! No matter where you turn the media is trying to force some blasphemy on us…even a wonderful movie with a wonderful message like “It’s a Wonderful life” is leading people astray!!!😛 Seriously though, like others said, it’s more of a figure of speach when referring to them as angels. As far as the everyone in heaven thing. I think that there is a bad case of Buddy Christ going around where many many people want to believe that Christ and or God are their buddies and that He would never let them down by not accepting one of their loved ones into heaven, when in fact it was not God who let them down, it was the loved one who didn’t live up to their part of the bargain. I think it was C.S Lewis who said that the smartest thing that the devil ever did was convince mankind that he doensn’t exist. I believe deep down that many people feel that he doesn’t exist. God bless.
 
VociMike said:
If I were genuinely curious as to how seriously the average person takes their faith, I think I would seek more substantial data. But that’s just me. 🙂
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Thus the path to hell is WIDE and the one to Heaven is narrow… In my opinion anyway.

Edit sorry meant to quote post above this one =) sorry!
 
JohnCS said:
Thus the path to hell is WIDE and the one to Heaven is narrow… In my opinion anyway.

Edit sorry meant to quote post above this one =) sorry!
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Exactly, Hell is likely packed full of Gods children and Heaven is likely sparsely populated.
 
Zatzat said:
Exactly, Hell is likely packed full of Gods children and Heaven is likely sparsely populated.
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Just because it’s a big road, doesn’t mean that most people are on it. It just means it’s an easier road to walk. I’m pretty sure that the Church has NOT officially made any indication whatsoever as to what percentage of souls are in either place, just that there are definitely some souls in Hell (and canonized saints are in Heaven). I don’t think it is a particularly useful thing to speculate on percentages, since we can’t possibly know. I personally think it unlikely that only four people in the history of the earth are in Hell, but I don’t actually know that there are more than two (because of references to souls in Hell).

God wills for all men to be saved, but we have the free will to choose not to accept God’s grace for salvation.

–Jen
 
revert_jen said:
Just because it’s a big road, doesn’t mean that most people are on it. It just means it’s an easier road to walk. I’m pretty sure that the Church has NOT officially made any indication whatsoever as to what percentage of souls are in either place, just that there are definitely some souls in Hell (and canonized saints are in Heaven). I don’t think it is a particularly useful thing to speculate on percentages, since we can’t possibly know. I personally think it unlikely that only four people in the history of the earth are in Hell, but I don’t actually know that there are more than two (because of references to souls in Hell).

God wills for all men to be saved, but we have the free will to choose not to accept God’s grace for salvation.

–Jen
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Exactly and with Gods standard of sinless perfection at the moment of death, most are likely in hell.
 
Zatzat said:
Exactly and with Gods standard of sinless perfection at the moment of death, most are likely in hell.
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Where did this idea come from? If you mean that God requires someone to be sinless and perfect at the moment of death in order to go to Heaven, it’s not the teaching of the Catholic Church, nor is it as far as I know the teaching of any mainline or evangelical Protestant church.

–Jen
 
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