When did protestants start only going to church to get "fed"

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When I was Protestant, I ‘attended’ services (as one would attend a performance or a play). There was an expectation that if they weren’t ‘good’, we might go find another church or skip church altogether. That is an attitude that occurs frequently (perhaps not among the devout, but definitely among many people).

It took me awhile to realize that when I attend mass, I ‘assist’ in the mass. I am not just a spectator but actually a participant. That, plus the obligation to attend mass (Ohhhhhh, THAT’S what the 4th commandment means, LOL!) made me change my attitude.

Granted, I could have just been a lousy Protestant. 🙂

(formerly “lutheran farmer”)
I don’t know about being a lousy protestant. It sounds more like just poor catechesis.
but you bring up a good point, in that I have concerns when I see Lutheran parishes opt out of traditional liturgy in favor of “contemporary” worship, as if the mass is should be entertaining, and the pastor was auditioning for American Idol.

Jon
 
My first thought about getting “fed” is language used in homilies and liturgies of Feeding on Christ. Is that Lutheran lingo?
I don’t think its particularly Lutheran. the NT is filled with references to feeding. John 6 comes to mind, as does Christ’s instructions to St. Peter to “feed my sheep”.That reference, ISTM, is both figurative and literal.

Jon
 
Ok my main question that no one has answered is when did it become ok to miss church all the time if you are an evangelical and still claim that you are one no catholic that goes to mass 10x a year would claim to be involved at church but evangelicals would
My husband and I were Evangelical Protestant for the first 47 years of our lives. I grew up in a church where Gary Smalley was the associate pastor. John Ortberg was in my youth group; I played piano for him often. The current head of Campus Crusade for Christ was a member of my church.

Evangelical Protestants will recognize those names and understand why I am claiming impeccable Evangelical Protestant credentials and therefore, can answer your question correctly.

Evangelical Protestants would NEVER approve “missing church all the time.” Just the opposite.

A person who deliberately chooses to miss church would be considered either a “carnal Christian” or worse, someone who was never really a Christian to begin with.

According to Evangelical Protestant teaching, a genuine Christian does not practice sin regularly, and failing to associate with other Christians on a regular basis is definitely a sin according to the Bible (Hebrews 10: 23-25) because it demonstrates a disobedience to the teachings clearly stated in God’s Word. Therefore, a person who chooses to miss church all the time is very likely not a Christian. Their act of “asking Jesus into their heart to be their personal Savior” was insincere, and the person is not saved.

Here’s how strongly Evangelical Protestants believe in the importance of that passage of Scripture in Hebrews 10 that says that we need to assemble together with other believers. After my husband and I were kicked out of our Evangelical Protestant church by a TRIBUNAL of pastors and elders in that church (a cruel gathering with no kindness shown to us), we stayed away from any churches for several weeks. But after several weeks, I told my husband that I was going to go the Catholic Mass at the church down the street from our house because I knew that it was important for me to be in obedience to Jesus and “assemble together” with fellow believers. My husband agreed.

Do you hear what I’m saying? What I’m saying here is that we were willing to attend a CATHOLIC church :eek: rather than staying away from assembling with believers! THAT’S how important church attendance is to Evangelical Protestant Christians!

However, in recent years (the last twenty years or so), “church” has been defined differently by many Evangelical Protestants who teach that “traditional church” is not what Jesus intended at all (based on their interpretation of God’s Word), and that the emphasis should be on gathering with other believers, not on any type of “program” or “liturgy.”

So for many Evangelical Protestants, gathering with other Christians for a meal, a Bible study, or for prayer, would be considered obedience to the passage in Hebrews 10.

And I agree with them, that this definition of “assembling together” is legitimate for Evangelical Protestant Christians, who have never had a “liturgical” worship service the way Catholics and other liturgical Christians understand “liturgy.”

So my answer to your question is that for Evangelical Protestant Christians, “I only need to go to church a couple times a year to get fed I can just read the bible at home with a couple friends because jesus is were two are gathered in his name” and going to “get fed which means less than once a month they are much more likely to attend a weekly Wednesday bible study than Sunday service” IS appropriate and adequate for a Christian.

Indeed, many of the country’s largest megachurches (10,000 or more members) do not offer Sunday “worship services” for the members, but instead, offer weekday small group gatherings for their members. The Sunday worship service is a “seeker service” meant for non-believers, visitors, and seekers. Many of the smaller Evangelical Protestant churches are following this model (with varied degrees of success).

Another movement that has developed in Evangelical Protestant circles is the “domestic church” or “family church,” in which “church” is held at home, and Dad is the pastor/leader of the church. Sometimes these “family churches” invite a few other families to join them, and sometimes they don’t. But they are definitely in obedience to Hebrews 10: 23-25–“assembling together.”

As to your question about the emphasis on “getting fed,” I agree with others on this thread who say that this is a perfectly logical thing for ANY Christian to desire, including Catholic Christians. My husband and I became Catholics because we HUNGERED and THIRSTED for righteousness, and after two years of study, we knew that the Catholic Church was the True Church of Jesus Christ, and that only by receiving Him in the Eucharist would our hunger and thirst be satisfied.

We shouldn’t criticize Christians who want “to be fed.” That’s a good thing for Christians to want.

What you need to understand is that Evangelical Protestants don’t realize that they are searching for Jesus Christ, Truly Present in the Eucharist. So they “church hop” hoping to find adequate “food”, and they try to find satiety in good fellowship, emphasis on prayer and Bible study, riveting teaching and preaching, opportunities for service in the community and the rest of the world, great music (this is HUGE for most Evangelical Protestants–Catholics have no clue about how important music is to Evangelical Protestants), strong children’s and youth programs (including Christians schools and support for homeschooling), etc.

I think it’s important for Catholics to deal kindly and gently with Evangelical Protestants who talk about “being fed,” and instead of criticizing them or disdaining their desire, instead, we should invite them to observe “dinner” at our parish! 🙂
 
A constant theme I here from protestants are things like

" I don’t like going to church unless I get fed"

“I only need to go to church a couple times a year to get fed I can just read the bible at home with a couple friends because jesus is were two are gathered in his name”

“My family is switching churches because the pastor isn’t feeding us”

My big question is at some point I imagine protestants went to church every week and now at least all my evangelical fiends only go to “get fed” which means less than once a month they are much more likely to attend a weekly Wednesday bible study than Sunday service

When did this start ??
I got to church in part to get fed in word and sacrament.
 
I am seeing a trend this post started because I am going on vacation with some friends in 2 weeks and planning when we are leaving and they are proposing are drive time be Sunday morning and Saturday evening for a trip that is father away. I responded that if those were are times I would have to find a parish along the way to go to mass. My friends are very frustrated they have said things like

“I thought the Catholic Church has services everyday”

“Can’t we just all pray and read the bible together instead”

So right now I am driving and we are leaving at the above time and I did tell them I will have to go to mass and they are welcome to come if they want
 
Ok my main question that no one has answered is when did it become ok to miss church all the time if you are an evangelical and still claim that you are one no catholic that goes to mass 10x a year would claim to be involved at church but evangelicals would
Where do you get this stuff?😃
Evangelicals in fact are very strict when it comes to missing church. If you miss two weeks in a row, be sure that someone is going to be asking you if you are “backsliding”/“falling away”.
For many evangelicals, to be considered an active member of the church or a practising Christian, you have to attend church regularly (and not only on Sundays, midweek services as well).You have to have a very good reason - like being a medical intern or firefighter etc. where you have to go in to work sometimes on a sunday. And even then you will usually let your family or friends know why you are missing church.
If you are not living the christian life, you may even be denied communion. So someone who is going to church 10X a year is not even considered a practising christian, it means that you are probably not even receiving communion as well.
 
Quick comment that in most Lutheran parishes not only is the number of worshippers counted each Sunday but also the number of communicants. And in the typically small parish the pastor is provided the names of who actually came to Mass.
 
Where do you get this stuff?😃
Evangelicals in fact are very strict when it comes to missing church. If you miss two weeks in a row, be sure that someone is going to be asking you if you are “backsliding”/“falling away”.
For many evangelicals, to be considered an active member of the church or a practising Christian, you have to attend church regularly (and not only on Sundays, midweek services as well).You have to have a very good reason - like being a medical intern or firefighter etc. where you have to go in to work sometimes on a sunday. And even then you will usually let your family or friends know why you are missing church.
If you are not living the christian life, you may even be denied communion. So someone who is going to church 10X a year is not even considered a practising christian, it means that you are probably not even receiving communion as well.
Finally, a comment that reflects the real world. 😉 Anybody who thinks evangelicals look the other way when you don’t go to church is kidding themselves.
 
Finally, a comment that reflects the real world. 😉 Anybody who thinks evangelicals look the other way when you don’t go to church is kidding themselves.
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Lol, not to mention:
Tuesday night - prayer meetings
Wednesday Morning - fasting
Wednesday Night -Bible Study
Thursday Night - Missions meeting
Friday Night - Youth meeting
Monday and Sat were freebies (unless you were in the choir, then you are only down to one free day:D)
And if your parents are going, you have to go.

Luckily for me, my parents went only on Sundays and Wednesday (We lived too far away). And when I had a ride, I went on Fridays.
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Perception is key, you can only see your side. Growing up, I thought my catholic friends had it easy. I thought they only had to church on Sunday.
 
I think you may be confused. The only thing I know of that all (almost all?) Protestants believe is that which is contained in the Apostle’s Creed.

Christians are to go to church every week. There’ s no formal government law about it and nobody will take you to court to sentence you to prison if you don’t do it, but you’re supposed to do it, Catholic or Protestant. However, lots of people are lazy. Lots of people don’t know their religion. Lots of people don’t practice a religion. Lots of people don’t even believe what their religion teaches. Lots of people don’t go to church. That doesn’t mean you aren’t supposed to go to church.

And yes, you’re supposed to be fed at church. We feed on the word of God. We feed on the Lord’s Supper. We feed on God’s love and grace and mercy. And if I’m not being fed at a church (for example, a church that glorifies and encourages sin, as many do), you better believe I’m out of there looking for a new church, Catholic or Protestant.

I do enjoy the scores of posts each day about what “Protestants believe…” The ignorance and judgment is astounding.
 
I think you may be confused. The only thing I know of that all (almost all?) Protestants believe is that which is contained in the Apostle’s Creed.

Christians are to go to church every week. There’ s no formal government law about it and nobody will take you to court to sentence you to prison if you don’t do it, but you’re supposed to do it, Catholic or Protestant. However, lots of people are lazy. Lots of people don’t know their religion. Lots of people don’t practice a religion. Lots of people don’t even believe what their religion teaches. Lots of people don’t go to church. That doesn’t mean you aren’t supposed to go to church.

And yes, you’re supposed to be fed at church. We feed on the word of God. We feed on the Lord’s Supper. We feed on God’s love and grace and mercy. And if I’m not being fed at a church (for example, a church that glorifies and encourages sin, as many do), you better believe I’m out of there looking for a new church, Catholic or Protestant.

I do enjoy the scores of posts each day about what “Protestants believe…” The ignorance and judgment is astounding.
Lutheran Stamp of Approval 👍
 
Don’t be too hard on the people that are under the impression that Protestants aren’t expected to attend church every Sunday. It probably comes from people’s reactions when Catholics say that the need to attend mass, even on vacation. I have already heard people ask me, “You have to go EVERY week?”.

I never heard the about the obligation to attend church on Sundays until I was in RCIA. No one told me that to not attend was breaking a Commandment. Sure, we got the ol’ ‘see you next Sunday, I hope’ from the pastor, but nothing about it being a sin to miss services. You can call it poor catechizing, but I had a LOT of company.
 
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Lol, not to mention:
Tuesday night - prayer meetings
Wednesday Morning - fasting
Wednesday Night -Bible Study
Thursday Night - Missions meeting
Friday Night - Youth meeting
Monday and Sat were freebies (unless you were in the choir, then you are only down to one free day:D)
And if your parents are going, you have to go.

Luckily for me, my parents went only on Sundays and Wednesday (We lived too far away). And when I had a ride, I went on Fridays.
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Perception is key, you can only see your side. Growing up, I thought my catholic friends had it easy. I thought they only had to church on Sunday.
And if you were too tired and had school in the morning, you just rolled under the pew and went to sleep until your parents woke you up.
 
Don’t be too hard on the people that are under the impression that Protestants aren’t expected to attend church every Sunday. It probably comes from people’s reactions when Catholics say that the need to attend mass, even on vacation. I have already heard people ask me, “You have to go EVERY week?”.

I never heard the about the obligation to attend church on Sundays until I was in RCIA. No one told me that to not attend was breaking a Commandment. Sure, we got the ol’ ‘see you next Sunday, I hope’ from the pastor, but nothing about it being a sin to miss services. You can call it poor catechizing, but I had a LOT of company.
As a lifelong protestant, I have never been told from the pulpit that it was an obligation to attend church every week or a sin to miss it, but it was definitely an unstated expectation to attend church every week if you were able.

When it comes to “being fed” – assuming that “being fed” equates to receiving a meaningful, nourishing, life-changing Gospel message of Christ at one’s church – I will make one point.

I was born and raised in a mainline denomimation (Presbyterian Church, USA) and although I was taught to revere God, there wasn’t a lot of meaningful life-changing taking place there, but then I left in my late teens, which was a long time ago. For the most part, people left church service no different than they arrived, or at least that was the case with me and many people I knew. It was like a routine activity that you did every Sunday – nothing really special about it. Therefore, I would say that I wasn’t “being fed”.

Sure, there was an OT reading, a NT reading, singing of hymns, and we would sing “Glory be to the Father”. But outside of that, it was very dry, intellectually-based, and the sermon oftentimes boiled down to a few quotations by famous poets and statesmen followed by admonitions to the congregation to serve ‘Meals on Wheels’ and that sort of thing.

While I have nothing against Meals on Wheels and I assisted my mother on many occasions doing it, it was more of a social gospel and it had little or no effect on my core spirit nor did it make a dent in changing my sinful nature. I wasn’t a bad person necessarily, but I had a void in my spirit that only God could fill.

It was when I saw a Billy Graham crusade on TV as a teenager when I discovered the true life-changing Gospel message that God could really change me from the inside out and make me a new person in Christ. I discovered that God could and would forgive my sins if I sincerely repented and committed my life to Him, which I did. I could then reach out and be an ambassador of Christ to witness and serve others out of love for God.

It was a year or so after that experience that I decided to change churches after I decided that I wasn’t being spiritually fed at my old church anymore. Several at my old church considered me to be a Jesus freak or something. I was unknowlingly disrupting the norm there and making others feel uncomfortable through my newly-found exhuberance. I wanted to be spiritually fed and I didn’t want to be a disruption to anyone, so I left.

At my AOG church I fit in immediately and I began to grow into a deeper and more meaningful faith that brought joy and peace to my life as I matured ( and I still have a long way to go). Each week I left church stronger than when I arrived and I felt spiritually nourished deep in the core of my being and not just a superficial ‘feel good’ feeling I used to have. There was no need to even worry about a “Sunday obligation” with me because I was going to be there every time the doors opened because I longed to be there.

Therefore, I will say that finding a church where you are “spiritually fed” is important and should not be downplayed or made fun of, or at least that’s they way it is for me.
 
I find that folks who say they go to church to get feed are not the one’s who miss services. However they are the folks more likely to hop churches seeking the better teachers as that takes priority over assembling with a specific body of believers.
 
I feel that the abundance of people who say they go to church to be fed, is a result of the selfish nature of today’s culture. We’ve been told that we must live to satisfy “me” first, and that creates people who approach christianity with the same mindset. They go to church to get something for themselves from it, rather than to worship God and interact with other others in a helpful way. Of course, we do get something for ourselves, but the main reason for being christian is to serve Christ and his people. I personally go to church on Sunday to worship God firs,t and also to interact with other christian people. Though I don’t believe it’s a condemning sin to miss church on a given Sunday, the bible tells us we are to come together with other believers to worship, and I think we should make it a priority to attend a service every Sunday possible. I’ve been told “I don’t need to go to church to be a good christian”. Well, I haven’t run across any “good” christians lately that don’t attend church.
 
I feel that the abundance of people who say they go to church to be fed, is a result of the selfish nature of today’s culture. We’ve been told that we must live to satisfy “me” first, and that creates people who approach christianity with the same mindset. They go to church to get something for themselves from it, rather than to worship God and interact with other others in a helpful way. Of course, we do get something for ourselves, but the main reason for being christian is to serve Christ and his people. I personally go to church on Sunday to worship God firs,t and also to interact with other christian people. Though I don’t believe it’s a condemning sin to miss church on a given Sunday, the bible tells us we are to come together with other believers to worship, and I think we should make it a priority to attend a service every Sunday possible. I’ve been told “I don’t need to go to church to be a good christian”. Well, I haven’t run across any “good” christians lately that don’t attend church.
While I understand where you are coming from and respect your point of view, Lek, I look at it differently.

Like a momma bird who first must feed herself in order to be able to go back to the nest to feed her chicks, I feel I must first be spiritually fed before I can truly be of benefit to anyone else. Otherwise I don’t have much to offer. When I was at a church where I wasn’t being fed, I wasn’t much benefit to anyone else except in a superficial way.

However, when I became a Christian and started attending a church where I recieved the life-changing message of the Gospel, I truly became nourished and empowered to help others in a meaningful way.
 
While I understand where you are coming from and respect your point of view, Lek, I look at it differently.

Like a momma bird who first must feed herself in order to be able to go back to the nest to feed her chicks, I feel I must first be spiritually fed before I can truly be of benefit to anyone else. Otherwise I don’t have much to offer. When I was at a church where I wasn’t being fed, I wasn’t much benefit to anyone else except in a superficial way.

However, when I became a Christian and started attending a church where I recieved the life-changing message of the Gospel, I truly became nourished and empowered to help others in a meaningful way.
I understand where you’re coming from. We do need a church in which the word of God is being taught and where the congregation exhibits the fruits and gifts of the Holy Spirit. What I was referring to was the large number of people who just want to go and receive something–people who sit down down say “feed me”. Besides a pastor who presents the message of the gospel, a church needs a congregation who also lives that message and nourishes and ministers to each other. I see that you attend an Assemblies of God church. In your denomination people are normally very outward about exhibiting the changes brought about in them by the working of the Holy Spirit. I attend a church which is more conservative and more subdued in their outward expression of the Spirit working in them, but we’re very strong in outreach activities in the community and have a high rate of involvement by the congregation. Someone who is used to the kind of atmosphere in your church may feel “unfed” in a church like ours.
 
While I understand where you are coming from and respect your point of view, Lek, I look at it differently.

Like a momma bird who first must feed herself in order to be able to go back to the nest to feed her chicks, I feel I must first be spiritually fed before I can truly be of benefit to anyone else. Otherwise I don’t have much to offer. When I was at a church where I wasn’t being fed, I wasn’t much benefit to anyone else except in a superficial way.

However, when I became a Christian and started attending a church where I recieved the life-changing message of the Gospel, I truly became nourished and empowered to help others in a meaningful way.
Very well said. “Getting fed” and serving others are not two mutually exclusive things; the latter is only possible as an outgrowth of the former. We can only give what we have already received.
 
What I was referring to was the large number of people who just want to go and receive something–people who sit down down say “feed me”.
I dunno, Lek…I often see this supposedly large number of people being accused of this kind of a thing, but these days, at least here in the Northeast US, I give kudos to anyone who bothers to go to church at all. It’s no longer socially expected of people to go to church, and just staying home is so much easier. Those who do go around here seem to take it pretty seriously.
 
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