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StrawberryJam
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I read about it once, but forgot the age. Can someone also give me a list of the things they must know before they can be in this ceremony?
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Ali_formerJW
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The end of second grade, for my ds it was age 8.
As for what they have to know? LOL, there ain’t no test
Our parish requires that the child attend CCD (if not in Catholic school) the year before, and the year of the Sacrament.The most important thing, though, is the Real Presence must be fully understood in an age appropriate way. In addition to being ready for Reconciliation, you have your prayers and what not.
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If they have had a Catholic upbringing, most American Latin rite Catholic children will make their First Communion toward the end of the second grade so they will probably be seven or eight years old. If a child has not had the proper education, First Communion is usually delayed until the child gets that education.
It’s been a while since I had a child that age but around here children need to complete two years of “sacramental preparation” which includes learning about the Blessed Trinity, the seven sacraments (particularly Baptism, Reconciliation, and Eucharist), basic prayers, and Mass parts. They will learn other things too, which will most likely be explored in more depth in later years.
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StrawberryJam
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Good to know. My roommate is blowing up because they won’t let him be his child’s CCD instructor. He wants to do it himself and they told him no way.The end of second grade, for my ds it was age 8.
As for what they have to know? LOL, there ain’t no test
The most important thing, though, is the Real Presence must be fully understood in an age appropriate way. In addition to being ready for Reconciliation, you have your prayers and what not.
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But, I don’t see why he is worried about this now because his child is only six. I told him to ask another priest at another parish, but he said he can’t.
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PhilotheaZ
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In most Roman Catholic parishes, two years of religious education (Catholic school or CCD) is required before receiving the sacraments of Reconciliation (confession) and Holy Eucharist (Communion).
In those two years, they will begin to learn about God as the Blessed Trinity, God’s love for us, and our responsibility to respond to God’s love by imitating Jesus. They will learn some stories from the Bible and apply them to their lives of faith. They will learn how important it is to pray every day, and will probably memorize some basic prayers. They will begin to understand right from wrong, the nature of sin, and our need for repentance. They will begin to understand, at a child’s level, that at Mass bread and wine are changed into the real Body and Blood of Christ.
In those two years, they will begin to learn about God as the Blessed Trinity, God’s love for us, and our responsibility to respond to God’s love by imitating Jesus. They will learn some stories from the Bible and apply them to their lives of faith. They will learn how important it is to pray every day, and will probably memorize some basic prayers. They will begin to understand right from wrong, the nature of sin, and our need for repentance. They will begin to understand, at a child’s level, that at Mass bread and wine are changed into the real Body and Blood of Christ.
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Ali_formerJW
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It’s never to early to start, IMO. I’m of two thoughts on this – #1, if they are formally homeschooling, then lots of parishes work with families and they do not have to attend the formal CCD program. But then again, some don’tGood to know. My roommate is blowing up because they won’t let him be his child’s CCD instructor. He wants to do it himself and they told him no way.
#2, even if the child does attend CCD at the parish, there is no reason why the Dad can not supplement religion at home. God is not confined to a CCD class room
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StrawberryJam
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He is upset because they charge 190.00 per child for the program and he knows the teachers assigned for this year’s six year olds and he thinks they are not trained well. I told him it could be beacause he is a lapsed catholic they are telling him no way. He is really upset about all this.It’s never to early to start, IMO. I’m of two thoughts on this – #1, if they are formally homeschooling, then lots of parishes work with families and they do not have to attend the formal CCD program. But then again, some don’t
#2, even if the child does attend CCD at the parish, there is no reason why the Dad can not supplement religion at home. God is not confined to a CCD class room
I am just his roommate, not interested in anyone and I have not even dated in years. The mother thinks that the CCD teachers should do it.
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Ali_formerJW
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OMGosh!!! That is crazy. And a hardship for families. I don’t understand that
I understand his POV, unfortunately, sometimes you just gotta play by their rules
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StrawberryJam
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Ya. I thought it was a bit pricey too. Their VBS was very expensive also. He sent his child to 4 year old preschool and K and the tuition was 600 a month with 25 dollar late fees. He nearly killed himself to try to keep it going. Sold all his tools and his snowblower and other things just to do it. He incurred late fees every month because he was always short by a hundred or so a month. So, it got pretty expensive fast.OMGosh!!! That is crazy. And a hardship for families. I don’t understand that
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SaltySirena
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A few questions:
If he is a lapsed Catholic, why does he care? If Eucharist is not important for him, then why is it important for his child?
If he is a lapsed Catholic, what makes him think he is qualified to teach a First Communion curriculum? There are Catholics who attend Mass every week who don’t know enough to teach that class. Trust me, I have cringed in horror as I heard them struggle to answer simple questions about the Eucharist from their children or grandchildren. Also, would he want someone who was actively rejecting the Church in their everyday life to teach his child the tenets of the Faith? I sure wouldn’t! But before he complains about how unqualified the teachers are, he needs to see how black his kettle is compared to their pot.
I agree that $190 is ridiculous for an RE program. Has he considered looking into other parishes?
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FastLearner
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Did he go and talk to the church? Most churches have scholarships or reduced fees for those without the ability to pay.
I don’t really know, but I took it to mean that he lapsed and returned. It sounds like he doesn’t live with his son and “baby mama” (for lack of a better phrase) now. Perhaps the issue is scandal.
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StrawberryJam
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Just because he lapsed does not mean he is ignorant of the teachings. He seems to be very intelligent regarding those. Based on what I see here, I think he is at a high level of apologetics/knowledge. I try to keep my questions here, and don’t ask him too much. But, when I have, I think he shows a very high level of knowledge. He took it upon himself to get a ton of adult formation in various venues.
Yes, it is 190 bucks for one child. Non negotiable. He can’t negotiate because he still has an unpaid balance of about 1,500 on tuition he is making monthy payments on and they are not even waiving the 25 dollar late fees on that either!
The parishes here require you are a registered member to attend he says. There may be some that don’t but they would be much much farther away.
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StrawberryJam
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Yes, he was an active catholic a few years ago. He lapsed a year or so after the child was born. The pastor knows him, and the former pastor knows him well. He ran a men’s retreat also. Was very involved in their fundraisers also. They will not reduce or waive the fees.
He is going through a divorce. Both of them were catholic and married in the catholic church, and she is still active. The only scandal is he is lapsed. And, she is divorcing him.
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psr13
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The church schools here often won’t give aid for preschool.
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bpbasilphx
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Immediately after Baptism and Confirmation in infancy.
This is typical in Melkite and Ruthenian Catholic parishes.
This is typical in Melkite and Ruthenian Catholic parishes.
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StrawberryJam
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He had no problems paying for preschool. His job changed to part time while the child was in Kindergarten.
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countertenor
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Make’s me glad my son was confirmed and communed as a baby. Them charging like that for religious education is insane. Apparently they are out to make money not serve the souls of the faithful. Not allowing a kid into CCD without paying is in essence charging for the sacraments. Isn’t that kind of thing against canon law or something?
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StrawberryJam
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I don’t know.
He is really upset. He gave a lot of his time to the catholic church over the years. Until he found out about a scandal that made him leave.
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kage_ar
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This thread has gone WAY off topic.
If someone agreed to pay tuition and then did not pay, the school still had to pay for lights and teachers. A Catholic school and the parish are two different things.
For CCD, the parent should have a meeting with the Pastor and request financial assisntance for CCD if there is a hardship.
If someone agreed to pay tuition and then did not pay, the school still had to pay for lights and teachers. A Catholic school and the parish are two different things.
For CCD, the parent should have a meeting with the Pastor and request financial assisntance for CCD if there is a hardship.
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puzzleannie
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returning to our regularly scheduled topic, the age for first communion (and for confirmation) in the Latin rite is when the child reaches the age of reason, generally the age of 7 up to age 18, the actual age to be determined by the national bishop’s conference and the bishop of the diocese. The bishop also determines what means should be used to insure the child is properly instructed in the sacrament (including confession) and is worthily disposed.
Before expressing anger or frustration against your local DRE or Catholic school about fees for religious education, age for sacraments, required preparation including parent meetings, or any other aspect, please check out your diocesan website, or office of catechesis for the rules
Before expressing anger or frustration against your local DRE or Catholic school about fees for religious education, age for sacraments, required preparation including parent meetings, or any other aspect, please check out your diocesan website, or office of catechesis for the rules
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