When does laziness become a sin?

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This summer I am home alone and do not have a job (I am only 17). I am a little scrupulous, but I feel during the day I am being lazy, and I am starting to wonder if it is a sin. When does laziness or sloth become a sin? Also, when do the other deadly sins actually become sinful? (pride, envy, wrath, greed, gluttony, lust) Is it just when they are unnecessary, or misused? Help would be very much appreciated.
 
If you’ve been working or studying the rest of the year, there’s nothing wrong at all in taking something of a vacation during the summer. Quite the contrary, a decent break is a necessity, which is why many countries have mandatory amounts of annual leave for workers.

Perhaps you can find some volunteering to do - charity work, or helping coach sports if sport is your thing - if the idea of doing nothing is unappealing? Or if study is more your style, start seriously studying your faith - read the Catechism or the Compendium of the Catechism, scripture or other books about the faith. There’s a lot of stuff available online, or you can check out what your local library has to offer.

That should keep the lazies at bay!

As for your second question - it’s a gray area. Lust is always a mortal sin, as the Gospels demonstrate.

Otherwise it depends on how much you indulge, partly. For example overeating on occasion is venial sin at most, overeating most days is probably grave. Spending the occasional day doing nothing useful is fine, spending weeks on end (unless you’re on vacation 😉 ), especially when there’s study or work that you should be doing, or jobs you should be applying for, would be grave/mortal.

Probably also depends on how much your vice interferes with you doing the things you know you should - be they study or work or prayer. I know at times I spend way too much time with the TV or the internet and not enough on the other things - that’s when I know I’ve got to hit that confessional.
 
If you’ve been working or studying the rest of the year, there’s nothing wrong at all in taking something of a vacation during the summer. Quite the contrary, a decent break is a necessity, which is why many countries have mandatory amounts of annual leave for workers.

Perhaps you can find some volunteering to do - charity work, or helping coach sports if sport is your thing - if the idea of doing nothing is unappealing? Or if study is more your style, start seriously studying your faith - read the Catechism or the Compendium of the Catechism, scripture or other books about the faith. There’s a lot of stuff available online, or you can check out what your local library has to offer.

That should keep the lazies at bay!

As for your second question - it’s a gray area. Lust is always a mortal sin, as the Gospels demonstrate.

Otherwise it depends on how much you indulge, partly. For example overeating on occasion is venial sin at most, overeating most days is probably grave. Spending the occasional day doing nothing useful is fine, spending weeks on end (unless you’re on vacation 😉 ), especially when there’s study or work that you should be doing, or jobs you should be applying for, would be grave/mortal.

Probably also depends on how much your vice interferes with you doing the things you know you should - be they study or work or prayer. I know at times I spend way too much time with the TV or the internet and not enough on the other things - that’s when I know I’ve got to hit that confessional.
Please be careful with such blanket statements! Not all sins of lust are mortal sins - if I look at a woman’s bottom because I think it’s shapely, that is, strictly speaking, a sin of lust, but not a mortal one because there is no grave matter.
 
Please be careful with such blanket statements! Not all sins of lust are mortal sins - if I look at a woman’s bottom because I think it’s shapely, that is, strictly speaking, a sin of lust, but not a mortal one because there is no grave matter.
Nope. From the catechism:

“2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.”

If the above was not in your heart when you looked at her, then t’s not a sin of lust, it’s a different and probably lesser sin.

If the above WAS in your heart, then grave/mortal sin ensues automatically, grave matter automatically being present. Jesus said ‘if a man looks at a woman with lust, he has already committed adultery with her in his heart’. Adultery is grave matter always, no exceptions, likewise lust.
 
Nope. From the catechism:

“2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.”

If the above was not in your heart when you looked at her, then t’s not a sin of lust, it’s a different and probably lesser sin.

If the above WAS in your heart, then grave/mortal sin ensues automatically, grave matter automatically being present. Jesus said ‘if a man looks at a woman with lust, he has already committed adultery with her in his heart’. Adultery is grave matter always, no exceptions, likewise lust.
Hi LilyM,

I deliberately did not say it was a sin of lusting in the heart. Nor was I referring to adultery, either in the heart or physically. Come now, please don’t read into anything I wrote.

My goal here is not to get into a major debate with you, but if I look at a woman and say “wow she’s hot” that IS a sin of lust, not something “different”. It is also not a mortal sin because “wow she’s hot” and “wow I want to have sex with her” are two totally different thoughts.

I like to refer to this examination of conscience for such questions. You will find a list of venial sins in breach of the sixth and ninth commandments that are of a sexual nature but do not involve grave matter.

Also, the presence of grave matter does not automatically mean that someone has committed a mortal sin. As you well know, full consent and full knowledge of the nature of the act are also required.
 
I don’t know when it becomes sinful, but laziness is a pretty terrible quality if it persists for an undue amount of time.
 
Nope. From the catechism:

“2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.”

If the above was not in your heart when you looked at her, then t’s not a sin of lust, it’s a different and probably lesser sin.

If the above WAS in your heart, then grave/mortal sin ensues automatically, grave matter automatically being present. Jesus said ‘if a man looks at a woman with lust, he has already committed adultery with her in his heart’. Adultery is grave matter always, no exceptions, likewise lust.
Mortal sins in the Catechism are described by the word “grave.”

For example: “masterbation is an intrinsically and GRAVELY disordered action”

The explination of lust does not include the “grave matter” qualification for it to be a mortal sin.

Of course lust is disordered, just as all sin is. But all lusting is not grave matter, and definitly not mortal sin.
 
Hi LilyM,

I deliberately did not say it was a sin of lusting in the heart. Nor was I referring to adultery, either in the heart or physically. Come now, please don’t read into anything I wrote.

My goal here is not to get into a major debate with you, but if I look at a woman and say “wow she’s hot” that IS a sin of lust, not something “different”. It is also not a mortal sin because “wow she’s hot” and “wow I want to have sex with her” are two totally different thoughts.

I like to refer to this examination of conscience for such questions. You will find a list of venial sins in breach of the sixth and ninth commandments that are of a sexual nature but do not involve grave matter.

Also, the presence of grave matter does not automatically mean that someone has committed a mortal sin. As you well know, full consent and full knowledge of the nature of the act are also required.
 
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I am inclined to think that simply looking at someone and thinking “Wow! She’s hot!” is an aknowledgement that the woman in question is a desirable female, but unless it leads to an intention to do something dishonourable, it is not, in itself, sinful. It is simply a natural reaction. If you continued thinking about this woman, or gained sexual pleasure from thinking about her in lewd ways, that would be sinful, but without some element of “Wow!” would anyone get married? I cannot see a fleeting admiration as “Lust”, any more than an appreciation of lovely smells from the kitchen is “Gluttony”!
 
I think when you starte “excpecting” others do “support” you without you helping out is when your laziness becomes a sin.
For example, I am a housewife. I take care of my kids, I take care of home, wash laundry, clean house, make sure the kids are taken care of are healthy. I make sure my husband has a good hot meal anytime he calls and says hes coming home to eat lunch with us and of course when he comes home after work for dinner. A lot of people may think I have it made cause I dont “go to work” but I do work all the time 24/7

NOW if I were still a housewife, but didnt do the laundry, could care less for my kids, just went shopping and had my husband do all the house chores after he came home from work. Then I would be in sin due to being lazy. Im not doing anything, Im not contributing to anything or anyone in my family at all.

Im sure during the year you go to school, you do your best, you honor your mother and your father. Im sure you are not leaving trash on the floor and your keeping house. You dont expect to be waited on hand and foot.

As far as when pride, envy, wrath, greed, gluttony, lust become a sin. Well I was told that it becomes a sin in one of two ways. When it consumes your thoughts all the time and when you wish bad on the other.

There is nothing wrong with wanting what someone else has so long as you dont do it in a way that makes you hate. I mean I may like my cousins house. She has a HUGE house. But if I go around hating her for it then it becomes a sin. However if I say “Oh one day I will have a house like that.” and then work for it then it doenst become a sin.

Or if you have a friend who has a really awesome girl friend. Tends to your friend like he is her cheese on macaroni, and you go after that girl, trying to take her away cause you want that too…then it becomes a sin. Or even just hating your friend for having such a girl and wishing she was yours instead…its a sin. But if you just say “That is so nice that he found a girl that really loves him. I hope one day I find a girl who will love me like that too” then it doesnt become a sin.

I hope that helps.
 
I think I agree with Mr Irish here. I mean there are a lot of very good looking people out there. Im married. When we go out sure we see a lot of very good looking men or women out there. Its natural to admire those who are very good looking. There is a difference when you say “WOW THAT HES HOT” and just think…wow he is gorgeous, than if you see that person and you think “Oh wow I WOULD LIKE TO GET IN BED WITH THAT PIECE OF MEAT!” Seriously…thats just sick. You dont sin when you admire beauty. God creates beauty all around us, including us humans. Its natrual to just look and admire. Just dont go so far as to think…“I wonder how that person is in bed?” then it becomes a sin. IMHO
Hi LilyM,

I deliberately did not say it was a sin of lusting in the heart. Nor was I referring to adultery, either in the heart or physically. Come now, please don’t read into anything I wrote.

My goal here is not to get into a major debate with you, but if I look at a woman and say “wow she’s hot” that IS a sin of lust, not something “different”. It is also not a mortal sin because “wow she’s hot” and “wow I want to have sex with her” are two totally different thoughts.

I like to refer to this examination of conscience for such questions. You will find a list of venial sins in breach of the sixth and ninth commandments that are of a sexual nature but do not involve grave matter.

Also, the presence of grave matter does not automatically mean that someone has committed a mortal sin. As you well know, full consent and full knowledge of the nature of the act are also required.
 
Laziness is a sin because it prevents you from doing something good. Sin is not confined in doing bad thing but also not doing the right things. Personally, I always succumb to laziness. It leads me to become lazy to pray or to go to church thereby weakening my faith and cause me to sin more. Countless of hours are spent in worthless day dreaming.
 
This summer I am home alone and do not have a job (I am only 17). I am a little scrupulous, but I feel during the day I am being lazy, and I am starting to wonder if it is a sin. .
If you are keeping home clean, fixing things, maybe getting some portion of dinner ready, or other household (or yard work if that applies), then it might be Ok to take things easy a bit. I don’t think there are enough paid employment jobs for all 17 year olds, so some will be left home alone. Contribute what you can to the things that are needed around the home. You parents, who already love you, will probably not hesitate in the least to compliment you and express thier pride and gratitude. Its part of growing into more responcibility. Some things you can see for yourself; but don’t hesitate to ask what needs to be done.

I like your qeustion. I’ll leave lust and those other concerns for the others to banter back and forth amoung themselves.
 
This summer I am home alone and do not have a job (I am only 17). I am a little scrupulous, but I feel during the day I am being lazy, and I am starting to wonder if it is a sin. When does laziness or sloth become a sin? Also, when do the other deadly sins actually become sinful? (pride, envy, wrath, greed, gluttony, lust) Is it just when they are unnecessary, or misused? Help would be very much appreciated.
When I lose my temper and utter expletives under my breath when my older kids don’t lift a hand to help out.
 
Are all those things needful or are you simply playing Martha? Constant busy-ness conflicts with the command to “Be still, and know that I am God”! “Mary has chosen the better part”.🙂
 
Laziness is a sin because it prevents you from doing something good. Sin is not confined in doing bad thing but also not doing the right things. Personally, I always succumb to laziness. It leads me to become lazy to pray or to go to church thereby weakening my faith and cause me to sin more. Countless of hours are spent in worthless day dreaming.
The concept of “not at work” as sloth is part of the protestant work ethic and another protest inherent in their theology that is less than helpful. If sloth is just about work, then the contemplative religious who pray unceasingly for our world are in the worst of mortal sin. The philosophical studies that are ordered toward utility are only used to justify behavior, and usually bad behavior at that, but the search for truth that is at the heart of philosophy is not a utility for human good, it is the search for God. Sloth defined appropriately as “spiritual sloth” is the indifference toward God seen in most of the work-a-day world. The rest of the Sabbath can only be actual worship if it is lacking in activity, full of contemplation, and ordered fully toward God. Ones day dreaming is only worthless if it is ordered toward evil.
 
This summer I am home alone and do not have a job (I am only 17). I am a little scrupulous, but I feel during the day I am being lazy, and I am starting to wonder if it is a sin. When does laziness or sloth become a sin? Also, when do the other deadly sins actually become sinful? (pride, envy, wrath, greed, gluttony, lust) Is it just when they are unnecessary, or misused? Help would be very much appreciated.
When it is willfull, hurtful and seriously effects the ability to live [especially if one is in the postion WHICH YOU [at the present time] ARE NOT of being chief or necessary provider.

However, “time too is a gift from God” and “good stuartship” is to be excercised.

Eccl. Chapter3: 1"For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven: 2 a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted; 3 a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; 4 a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; 5 a time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; 6 a time to seek, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; 7 a time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; 8 a time to love, and a time to hate; a time for war, and a time for peace." **
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I would add "And a time to work and a time to rest."


Covet your time and invest it wisely, knowing that like a battery the human body too needs to be recharged!🙂 👍

In order for any act to be a MORTAL SIN three things must be present every time.

Serious matter

Pre-knowledge that what is being contemplated is both a serious matter AND a Mortsal sin

And a free will [not forced in any way… freely intended

Each of the things you asked about have the potential of becomming a Mortal sin If and When, and ONLY if and when all three elements for a Mortal sin are present.

**One does NOT have to actually commit the act, If, If one desires to sin Mortally but uncontrolled circumstances do not allow you to fulfill your sinfull desires.

Love and prayers,
 
So, what if I were to wake up at about 7:30 Thursday morning. I would think to myself, “I could get up and get ready and go to Mass at 8:00, or I could sleep in longer.” What if I were to choose to sleep longer? Would it be a sin of sloth? Or if I were to tell myself, “I think I’ll sleep in longer, and when I wake up, I will pray the rosary or watch Mass on television,” would it still be a sin?
 
If sloth is about work, why are we sleeping at all? Stay up and pray, get a second or third job to send the money to the poor around the world, go go go, do do do.

Our example is Jesus, our vocation is to love God and our duty is to do what He wants for us. Every precept in the Bible about love of neighbor is applicable to our family, feed the hungry, educate the ignorant, visit the sick, etc. Kids, wife, elderly parents, grandparents are neglected when we concentrate on the world’s problems. Give the world the Gospel of Jesus and those problems can be taken care of in truth and love. The devil loves when people run around to do good that they want to do and neglect the “anointed” work God sends to us.

Sloth is spiritual in nature and we often neglect what God sends us. He sent us an encyclical from the leader of the Church. Have we read it yet?
 
=ShaunH;5503663]So, what if I were to wake up at about 7:30 Thursday morning. I would think to myself, “I could get up and get ready and go to Mass at 8:00, or I could sleep in longer.” What if I were to choose to sleep longer? Would it be a sin of sloth? Or if I were to tell myself, “I think I’ll sleep in longer, and when I wake up, I will pray the rosary or watch Mass on television,” would it still be a sin?
***If you’re speaking of Sunday or Holiday Mass and you are aware of the three conditions for a Mortal sin to exist, it would be a mortal sin.

TV Mass does not under by extreme consitions pass the test for fulfilling one’s greave moral obligation to attend Mass.

Love and prayers,***
 
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