When does stem cell synthesis become immoral?

[mkoopman]

This appears to be a “dead end” or cul-de-sac in vital medical practice. The introduction of an artificial sperm can not be moral in light of the unitive and procreative within the sacred bond of married persons as realized by natural law.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Stem-cells-used-to-create-artificial-sperm-egg/articleshow/45640546.cms

theturekclinic.com/sperm-making-artificial-testicle-manmade-sperm/

This provides clear evidence of an underlying agenda at the root of the same sex agenda. These types of artificial reproductive practices are the emphasis for support and hype of alternative lifestyles. These issues are not “civil rights” matters. These issues are intended to build acceptance for the immorality in what makes this class of medical researchers rich.

Eugenics is the aim and goal for denaturing the sacrament of marriage.

 

[TarkanAttila]

Is it possible - anyone who knows me knows this is only an honest question - is it possible that this might simply be used to give infertile men and/or women new genitals? Would there be anything morally wrong in replacing defective genitals with new, artificial ones?

Actually, that would seem to be the point, at least according to the Turek Clinic.

On the other hand, I can see how this might be used out-of-step with Humanae Vitae and Catholic sexual theology. More artificial conception and babyselling. More transgender work - for people whose minds are out-of-step with their bodies. And we don’t know enough about the mind to say which is to blame there.

 

[Brandon_Cal]

Is it possible - anyone who knows me knows this is only an honest question - is it possible that this might simply be used to give infertile men and/or women new genitals? Would there be anything morally wrong in replacing defective genitals with new, artificial ones?

Actually, that would seem to be the point, at least according to the Turek Clinic.

On the other hand, I can see how this might be used out-of-step with Humanae Vitae and Catholic sexual theology. More artificial conception and babyselling. More transgender work - for people whose minds are out-of-step with their bodies. And we don’t know enough about the mind to say which is to blame there.

Exactly! The technology in and of itself is amoral. Using pluripotent stem cells to create primordial germ cells can have moral ends (such as studying how exactly gametes develop, studying the genesis of hereditary cancers, etc.) and they can also have immoral ends (enhancing IVF). Saying that this research is immoral is a bit premature, in my opinion.

 

[mkoopman]

Is it possible - anyone who knows me knows this is only an honest question - is it possible that this might simply be used to give infertile men and/or women new genitals? Would there be anything morally wrong in replacing defective genitals with new, artificial ones?

Actually, that would seem to be the point, at least according to the Turek Clinic.

On the other hand, I can see how this might be used out-of-step with Humanae Vitae and Catholic sexual theology. More artificial conception and babyselling. More transgender work - for people whose minds are out-of-step with their bodies. And we don’t know enough about the mind to say which is to blame there.

I pray that the intention and outcomes of the Turek Clinic research is consistent with God’s will. I did not note the use of embryonic stem cells, specifically, in the work cited or on the publications at the website. It seems unlikely the stem cells mentioned were adult stem cells. The expectation that life is really the focus and not increasing wealth at the expense of the unborn seems highly unlikely.

The Times of India article proudly boasts the use of embryonic stem cells.

 

[mkoopman]

Exactly! The technology in and of itself is amoral. Using pluripotent stem cells to create primordial germ cells can have moral ends (such as studying how exactly gametes develop, studying the genesis of hereditary cancers, etc.) and they can also have immoral ends (enhancing IVF). Saying that this research is immoral is a bit premature, in my opinion.

Is “premature” a funny with respect to embryonic stem cell research? I ask in all candor. Those who have fallen victim to believing that use of embryonic stem cells is justified tend to have other elements promoted from a lack of humility in approaching others.

This may be especially true when approaching we others from the untouchable castes.

 

[TarkanAttila]

Is “premature” a funny with respect to embryonic stem cell research? I ask in all candor. Those who have fallen victim to believing that use of embryonic stem cells is justified tend to have other elements promoted from a lack of humility in approaching others.

This may be especially true when approaching we others from the untouchable castes.

Induced pluripotent cells are not embryonic. A Japanese scientist developed them. They’re more effective than embryonic cells, and only involve the usage of adult stem cells.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_pluripotent_stem_cell

It’s an amazing breakthrough in stem cell technology.

 

[mkoopman]

This is essentially off the thread topic - the thread that I started.

However, the bioethics issue might be one of which you are already aware.

nature.com/nature/journal/v410/n6827/full/410463a0.html

Does this research appear to shed any light on biogenesis?

That is, would it not be apparent that certain wavelengths of light would increase adaptive mutations primarily because of the presence of the biosynthesized element? Then how is the induced competitive influence relevant to any of the mutagenic potential in such a study? But, of course, the species investigated seems relevant to the inorganic material.

It seems to me, a great deal of interest in eugenics processes is well funded. But, there may be junk science behind it.

I would venture to guess that megalomaniacs tend to think alike. And, they appear to get good reuse out of research originating from bioweapons programs. Especially, those cell boundary matters related to weaponizing Ebola agents. What an odd, uhh, coincidence?

You could say I decided to play through on this thinking the question would be a piece of cake for you. In particular, supreme court wedding cake - only important when not playing golf.