When does the Christmas season really end in the Church?

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Went to noon Mass at yet a different Church today and before the Mass the priest came out and gave a speech about how his church was keeping the manger scene up till Presentation because “that’s how they do it in Rome” and “don’t take down your own Christmas decorations yet”. (This is in a wealthy parish where a lot of the attendees have probably been to Rome at some point or want to go.)
 
So why is there a separate feast day for the Baptism which was yesterday?
 
So why is there a separate feast day for the Baptism which was yesterday?
I don’t really know. It does seem a bit redundant. In the older calendar, it was a Commemoration, but was still separate from the Epiphany. I’m guessing the focus is slightly different: the key theme of the Epiphany is manifestation. Perhaps the separate feast of the Baptism focuses on the mystery/event itself and its associated themes (our own baptism, cleansing, sonship), wherein the Epiphany focuses in the Manifestation of Christ and his divinity.

But nevertheless. This does not take away from the Epiphany’s threefold mysteries: the visit of the Magi, the Baptism in the Jordan, and the first miracle at Cana.

Epiphany, Vespers II, Magnificat antiphon:

"Three mysteries mark this holy day: today the star leads the Magi to the infant Christ; today water is changed into wine for the wedding feast; today Christ wills to be baptized by John in the river Jordan to bring us salvation. "
 
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All the decos were down today. No more Christmas. But Lent starts in 4 weeks and a couple of days.

Today is Wednesday
 
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As has been stated, the feast of Epiphany traditionally (as in from the earliest days of the Church) commemorated three events, all of which relate to the Manifestation of Our Lord to the gentiles, to wit:
the coming of the Magi, the Baptism of Our Lord, and His first miracle at Cana. Many writings of the saints attest to this, and were included in the traditional Divine Office–Sts. Maximus, Jerome, Augustine, and Gregory among them.

A separate liturgical day commemorating the feast of Our Lord’s Baptism did not appear until 1955, when the first in a series of calendar reforms were made in the Church. So the feast is a very modern one. The octave day of the Epiphany had always had the Lord’s Baptism as the gospel of the day, as again, that is part of what Epiphany was about. But in 1955, the octave of Epiphany was suppressed, as were all octaves other then Christmas, Easter, and Pentecost. But, perhaps somewhat ironically, the gospel of the day, and some of the other propers, were preserved, and the octave day, 13 January, was retitled the Commemoration of the Baptism of Our Lord. It remained there until 1970, when the new missal and calendar took effect. That is why you see it in the 1962 missal.

One could make conjecture and say that this was an early example of ecumenical thinking regarding baptism. Up until the post-Vatican II reforms, converts from Protestantism were baptized conditionally upon their reception into the Catholic Church. By the time RCIA was re-institiuted a few years after, the emphasis on a baptism common to all Christians had come in, and there was no more conditional baptism in most receptions. One cannot help but notice the the introduction of the separate baptism feast as a related antecedent.
 
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Our Cathedral takes down the Christmas stuff after the Lord’s Baptism, but they are leaving up the nativity scene up until Candlemas.
 
@OldCAFMember and @(name removed by moderator) both answered the OP question accurately.

This year Christmastide (Christmas time) began at 4pm on December 24, 2017 and ended at Midnight yesterday Tuesday January 9th, 2018.

Also piggy backing on the image Cajun posted, in the US secular people celebrate Halloween for one day, but Catholics get to celebrate Halloween over a 3 day period - Allhallowstide (the Halloween season, all Saints time) begins on October 31st and also includes November 1st and 2nd (All Saints and All Souls Days’.)

One of the benefits of being a Catholic Christian - while non religious people get one measly Holiday, us Catholics get to celebrate days or even weeks of an entire Holyday Season!
 
@porthos11 I really like that distinction.

Christmastide ends after the Feast of the Baptism of Our Lord, but the Christmas Cycle ends at Candlemas.
 
Where I live, there are many Central/ Eastern European families who do not even celebrate the “gift-mas” day until January 6 - for them, Christmas is a religious holiday, and Jan. 6 is the gifting holiday because the Wise men brought gifts to Jesus that day. Several of my friends were just putting up the pictures of their kids opening presents last weekend.
That could also possibly be because in Eastern Churches which use the Julian Calendar (like the Russian Orthodox,) January 7th is the date of the Nativity (Christmas.)
 
Epiphany IS the feast of the Baptism. It is the feast of the triple manifestation: to the kings, at the Jordan, and at Cana. The traditional liturgy makes this abundantly clear. This is why January 13 was originally simply called the Octave Day, and even after the Octave was technically suppressed, it was renamed a Commemoration and not a Feast…because the “Feast” is 6 January.

It’s a subtle point, but it is of deep theological significance.
Also, to Eastern Christians Epiphany is instead called Theophany, and it is explicitly the Feast of the Baptism of the Lord.
 
How come my missal which is related to the TLM has january the 13th as the day of the baptism of Our Lord?

Please note that I am not arguing Epiphany”s core meaning.

Actually, as far as I know, Our Lord’s baptism was when He was an adult whereas Epiphany is related to His nativity…

Too many questions… heh.

EDIT: OldCAFMember answered satisfactorily
 
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Yah. The EF has it’s own calendar. The Epiphany isn’t moved from the 6th. And the Holy Family is celebrated on the Sunday following Epiphany, not Christmas.
 
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