But you have no evidence for that. In fact, as regards guns, the evidence runs the other way – when states enact “shall issue” laws, where every citizen of good repute has the right to a concealed carry permit, violent crime drops.
That’s probably true - it makes perfect sense, after all.
I dunnoThat’s probably true - it makes perfect sense, after all.
I don’t know what that has to do with the death penalty, though.
, ask Charlie Zeaiter. He keeps tossing in the gun stuff.The only connection I can imagine is that the America-phobes include guns in their litany of “Things-I-hate-about-you-Americans.” Sooner or later, they’ll always bring up guns. You can’t stop them from doing it anymore than you can stop a fish from swimming.That’s probably true - it makes perfect sense, after all.
I don’t know what that has to do with the death penalty, though.
Well, they must hate us Canadians, too, because we’ve got guns, too. (That gun registration thing is a total joke. I’ve never heard of anyone voluntarily registering their fire-arms - and neither has the fire-arms registry, according to the news - many deadlines to register have come and gone, without anyone ever showing up there.)
- “I thought ‘e was a mighty tall grizzly bear, Ossifer, hones’, I did.” 
)The sole argument in the catechism against the death penalty is that modern nations have prison systems capable of protecting society against repeat killers. I’m not sure what statistics they reviewed but this does not appear to be the case in the US: whatever one imagines that our penal system ought to be it seems unarguable that the actual system we have does not protect society against repeat killers. It also ignores the effect of deterrence, making the counter-intuitive assumption that while lesser punishments might deter some the most severe punishment will deter none at all.
But who judges the mental standing of an individual? Anyone can ‘fake’ an application…or have a good record, but deep down…they might be ready to snap. Like the VA Tech student…he got a gun…no one suspected he was going to go on a rampage. Not the gun shop owner, for one thing. There is too much room for error if we start allowing the public to carry guns…because there are too many people who would use them…in road rage…in domestic arguments…I can really see disaster written all over that.
He had already show signs of mental issues before that. He had gone to counseling and had some issue with the police and stalking. He wasn’t just some nice guy that went nuts. There were many warning signs about this guy before the tragedy.
But he didn’t need to report that in order to buy a gun. See, that’s the problem. If someone with that type of mental illness could get a gun (think he was autistic they thought?) then, it endangers more than it helps society. If others could defend themselves…so everyone is going to go around shooting people? I just see this as disastrous.
The same person who judges your mental stading when you vote, renew your driver’s licence, take your new-born baby home, and do many other things that require a stable personality.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating – this was a rare occurance, and damage would have been minimized if students and teachers were not denied their right to bear arms.
The disaster has already happened. Thirty two people at Virginia Tech died.
we will have to agree to disagree, vern. i will never agree with that statement.
and will that be the answer going forward? the thing is that people like you vern, will not be by and large, the type of person who buys a gun…it will be more unstable people than you think…and where will we all be?
It will be more unstable people than I think?
Then you must accept moral responsibility for those unarmed people who die at the hands of criminals.
gun control has nothing to do with P.C.
Pull the other one. It’s got bells on it.
Gee, ya think?
At the risk of repeating myself, so much for the old, “You don’t need to be able to defend yourself – the authorities will save you” theory.
At the risk of repeating myself, so much for the old, “You don’t need to be able to defend yourself – the authorities will save you” theory.
you should defend yourself in your own domain…yes, that i agree with. i don’t believe in carrying guns out in public.Pull the other one. It’s got bells on it.
Gee, ya think?
But they didn’t, did they? The students were left to fend for themselves as best they could.
So much for the old, “You don’t need to be able to defend yourself – the authorities will save you” theory.
At the risk of repeating myself, so much for the old, “You don’t need to be able to defend yourself – the authorities will save you” theory.
At the risk of repeating myself, so much for the old, “You don’t need to be able to defend yourself – the authorities will save you” theory.
vern you slay me.