When is the official Sabbath day?

[PMV]

When is the official Sabbath day according to the Church’s teaching? Should we try to make it a day of rest on Saturday or Sunday?

 

[Seatuck]

Technically the church no longer is required to observe the Sabbath day because that requirement ended with the old law.We do however still have a moral obligation to God to honor him on one special day- the seventh day.We move from the old order to a new hope . The church does require us to celebrate The Lords day which it has declared with authority to be on Sunday.

scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c1a3.htm

 

[Rob_s_Wife]

Sunset on Saturday through sunset on Sunday.

It is a commandment to keep the sabbath. That has not changed. Jese came to fullfill the laws of God, not to destroy them.

 

[Digitonomy]

Rob's Wife:

Sunset on Saturday through sunset on Sunday

Sorry, that’s not correct. The Lord’s Day lasts from midnight to midnight on Sunday. Canon Law provides that it is acceptable to fulfill your mass obligation the evening before, but makes no provision that I’m aware of to extend other aspects (e.g. obligation to rest) beyord Sunday.

Canon 202

+1. In the law, a day is understood as a period of time consisting of 24 continuous hours, and it begins at midnight, unless (nisi) otherwise expressly provided

Canon 1247

On Sundays and other holy days of obligation the faithful are bound to participate in the Mass; they are also to abstain from those labors and business concerns which impede the worship to be rendered to God, the joy which is proper to the Lord’s Day, or the proper relaxation of mind and body.

Canon 1248

+1. The precept of participating in the Mass is satisfied by assistance at a Mass which is celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the holy day or on the evening of the preceding day

 

[Magicsilence]

Jese came to fullfill the laws of God, not to destroy them.

 

[Rob_s_Wife]

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argh. Obviously I meant Jesus!
Hazard of typing with children around… sorry.

 

[Rob_s_Wife]

Canon 202

+1. In the law, a day is understood as a period of time consisting of 24 continuous hours, and it begins at midnight, unless (nisi) otherwise expressly provided

That is correct for today. The early Church wasn’t known for people walking around with watches though and thus the current previous evening Mass is still accepted today.

Canon 1247

On Sundays and other holy days of obligation the faithful are bound to participate in the Mass; they are also to abstain from those labors and business concerns which impede the worship to be rendered to God, the joy which is proper to the Lord’s Day, or the proper relaxation of mind and body.

**Proper relaxation of the mind and body sounds a good deal like a provision for a day of “rest” to me. **

Canon 1248

+1. The precept of participating in the Mass is satisfied by assistance at a Mass which is celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the holy day or on the evening of the preceding day

Yep. I never said otherwise.

 

[Latin_Catholic_1]

I know SDA doctrine.

Telling them we no longer live by the Law won’t do because they believe in the “pre-existence of the law” (some “doctrine” Ellen White made up).

The truth is after Christ ALL DAYS are sacred and of public worship (He is with us daily [Mt. 28,20] and the faithful understood it alright [Lk. 24,53]) unlike the jewish sabbath.

That is why there is daily worship (through the Mass) at the Temple.

The S.D.A. does not believe you?

The him/her to go to the Temple “on tuesday” and ask what time is the Mass.

 

[Rob_s_Wife]

Latin_Catholic:

I know SDA doctrine.

Telling them we no longer live by the Law won’t do because they believe in the “pre-existence of the law” (some “doctrine” Ellen White made up).

The truth is after Christ ALL DAYS are sacred and of public worship (He is with us daily [Mt. 28,20] and the faithful understood it alright [Lk. 24,53]) unlike the jewish sabbath.

That is why there is daily worship (through the Mass) at the Temple.

The S.D.A. does not believe you?

The him/her to go to the Temple “on tuesday” and ask what time is the Mass.

** ummm, huh? I thought I posted to a non-catholic religions board for a minute there, but no - it’s not. Did I miss something vital in the conversation here???**

 

[Digitonomy]

Rob's Wife:

That is correct for today. The early Church wasn’t known for people walking around with watches though and thus the current previous evening Mass is still accepted today.

Good point - clearly the specifics as we practice them today are a matter of discipline, rather than doctrine, as the early Church did not have Canon Law per se. Actually, I was under the impression that our current practice of the vigil mass satisfying the holy day obligation was a recent phenomenon, which explains why they had midnight masses more often in the old days. Regardless, it’s perfectly acceptable under current Canon Law to attend mass Saturday evening instead of Sunday. However, other holy day requirements have not been explicitly extended to the evening before, and so are limited to the 24 hours starting midnight Sunday morning.
Rob's Wife:

Proper relaxation of the mind and body sounds a good deal like a provision for a day of “rest” to me.

Yes.

 

[Rob_s_Wife]

Digitonomy:

Actually, I was under the impression that our current practice of the vigil mass satisfying the holy day obligation was a recent phenomenon, which explains why they had midnight masses more often in the old days.

Actually, in medievil times it was common to have a sunset mass (I believe many convents/monasteries still do? Although they call it by another term I can’t pull out of my brain at the moment… ) The RECENT change allowed it to be in place of the Sunday obligation. Before then, it was the norm to attend daily mass in the evenings but unfortunately the general population has fallen out of that practice due to work demands. At least this way, many will at least go on Saturday evening who would find Sunday morning difficult.

However, other holy day requirements have not been explicitly extended to the evening before, and so are limited to the 24 hours starting midnight Sunday morning.

**Hmmm, see what you mean and would agree. I think it boils down to how the individual perceives their days. For example, technicly the weekend doesn’t begin until midnight Saturday morning but most people lump Friday after 5:00 in there - kwim? **