When My Father Told Me He Wanted to Be a Woman

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It really disturbs me when I see Bruce Jenner being called such a courageous hero for his transgenderism. The man is clearly sick and needs help (as being on a reality TV show for so long could do to anyone).
 
We pray for everyone who is in torment especially during this period of Lent. Jesus died for ALL of us and we’re all witness to His Crucifixion. But we also know of His Resurrection that brought the promise of eternal life in Him. And we know the Father sent the Holy Spirit so we may spread the Word more effectively so we are agents of Christ and, through us, flows the Holy Spirit so we can help others come to Christ.

For the sake of those who suffer sexual identity confusion, we pray to the Lord.:gopray:
 
I think the article you posted isn’t really so much about a trangendered person as about an abuser with serious issues, something the writer describes at length. This abuser was himself abused as a child. I would imagine you could read other articles by the children of transgendered parents who will say that their mother or father has tried to be a good parent throughout, even though the parent’s decision has caused many difficulties in the family.

It’s important not to suggest that all transgendered parents are like this. They’re not, just as many ‘normal’ parents can also be monsters.
 
808Catholic said:
We pray for everyone who is in torment especially during this period of Lent. Jesus died for ALL of us and we’re all witness to His Crucifixion. But we also know of His Resurrection that brought the promise of eternal life in Him. And we know the Father sent the Holy Spirit so we may spread the Word more effectively so we are agents of Christ and, through us, flows the Holy Spirit so we can help others come to Christ.

For the sake of those who suffer sexual identity confusion, we pray to the Lord.:gopray:
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Lord, hear our prayer,
Mary.
 
Isca said:
I think the article you posted isn’t really so much about a trangendered person as about an abuser with serious issues, something the writer describes at length. This abuser was himself abused as a child. I would imagine you could read other articles by the children of transgendered parents who will say that their mother or father has tried to be a good parent throughout, even though the parent’s decision has caused many difficulties in the family.

It’s important not to suggest that all transgendered parents are like this. They’re not, just as many ‘normal’ parents can also be monsters.
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True and it’s also important not to accept uncritically the idea that this has no effect on children, which is the current prevailing drumbeat in the culture. Her story is just as valid as anybody else’s. If you want to share your story of how blessed you were that your father attempted a gender change, knock yourself out.
 
Isca said:
I think the article you posted isn’t really so much about a trangendered person as about an abuser with serious issues, something the writer describes at length. This abuser was himself abused as a child. I would imagine you could read other articles by the children of transgendered parents who will say that their mother or father has tried to be a good parent throughout, even though the parent’s decision has caused many difficulties in the family.

It’s important not to suggest that all transgendered parents are like this. They’re not, just as many ‘normal’ parents can also be monsters.
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There is of course the fact that one needs to realize the parent was trapped which breeds jealous and anger.

To be transgender is a fate worse than death.
 
Joie_de_Vivre said:
There is of course the fact that one needs to realize the parent was trapped which breeds jealous and anger.

To be transgender is a fate worse than death.
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There is always hope. Walt Heyer is a wonderful resource for encouragement for people suffering from gender dysphoria. He went through a sex change procedure and found it did not make him happy and so he returned to his birth gender. I find his manner gentle and encouraging, but there are some unpopular truths about this issue and he deals with that effectively as well. He has written for various websites on the topic. His website is sexchangeregret.com
 
WilliamOK said:
There is always hope. Walt Heyer is a wonderful resource for encouragement for people suffering from gender dysphoria. He went through a sex change procedure and found it did not make him happy and so he returned to his birth gender. I find his manner gentle and encouraging, but there are some unpopular truths about this issue and he deals with that effectively as well. He has written for various websites on the topic. His website is sexchangeregret.com
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Mr. Heyer was in fact suffering from something other than gender dysphoria and transitioned in a time when psychology was still learning to treat gender dysphoria.

None of the transwomen I know regret transitioning.
 
Joie_de_Vivre said:
None of the transwomen I know regret transitioning.
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Is a transwoman someone who went male to female?
If the process goes male to female would you say “She is transgendered?” Or would you say,“He went through sex reassignment and is now living as a woman?”
 
on_the_hill said:
Is a transwoman someone who went male to female?
If the process goes male to female would you say “She is transgendered?” Or would you say,“He went through sex reassignment and is now living as a woman?”
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Or, in this case, “he used to be my dad, until he thought he was a woman.”
 
on_the_hill said:
Is a transwoman someone who went male to female?
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Yes, also know as an MtF
on_the_hill said:
If the process goes male to female would you say “She is transgendered?” Or would you say,“He went through sex reassignment and is now living as a woman?”
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She transitioned and is now living as a woman.
JimG said:
Or, in this case, “he used to be my dad, until he thought he was a woman.”
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Or “I thought he was my dad until they informed me that she was a woman”
 
Joie_de_Vivre said:
Mr. Heyer was in fact suffering from something other than gender dysphoria and transitioned in a time when psychology was still learning to treat gender dysphoria.

None of the transwomen I know regret transitioning.
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Gender dysphoria is an extreme form of psychosis, a disconnection from physical reality, so it is not uncommon for it to be accompanied by other mental disorders.

Your personal circle of happy male friends who are currently unencumbered by regret and live as if they are women is interesting, but anecdotal. Current studies show that even with all the “progress” we’ve made, trans regret is not uncommon. There was an article posted on these forms not long ago which discussed this regret. If I remember correctly, Johns Hopkins has stopped doing the gender mutilating surgery because it did not have a high incidence of actually making the patients more healthy psychologically. So the evidence seems to be on Mr Heyer’s side, not yours. At any rate, Mr Heyer is reaching out to this population which regrets what they have done, and this population needs to be reached out to because their very existence embarrasses gay society and is therefore largely ignored by them.

You are trying to minimize his story, just as a previous poster tried to minimize the story of the woman in the OP. I see this as a trend which runs counter to enlightenment. In order to arrive at the truth, we should not be shackled by political correctness to the point where we cannot even discuss and give fair consideration to all points of view.

Mr Heyer is still here to share his valuable experience, and help people avoid what he went through. Today psychology has largely given up on treating gender dysphoria, opting instead to mutilate a perfectly healthy body to bring it into alignment with a mind that is at odds with physical reality. Mr Heyer and others like him offer valuable balance to the lop-sided information the media is willing to disseminate. He should be heard, not hurriedly dismissed.
 
WilliamOK said:
Gender dysphoria is an extreme form of psychosis, a disconnection from physical reality, so it is not uncommon for it to be accompanied by other mental disorders.
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Actually the ones I know are acutely aware of their biological reality
WilliamOK said:
Your personal circle of happy male friends who are currently unencumbered by regret and live as if they are women is interesting, but anecdotal. Current studies show that even with all the “progress” we’ve made, trans regret is not uncommon. There was an article posted on these forms not long ago which discussed this regret. If I remember correctly, Johns Hopkins has stopped doing the gender mutilating surgery because it did not have a high incidence of actually making the patients more healthy psychologically. So the evidence seems to be on Mr Heyer’s side, not yours. At any rate, Mr Heyer is reaching out to this population which regrets what they have done, and this population needs to be reached out to because their very existence embarrasses gay society and is therefore largely ignored by them.
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Actually while there is some dissatisfaction for those who got SRS the rate of regret (those who wish they never did it) is only a few percent.

A doctor who had wanted to shut down the program at John Hopkins became in charge of it and commissioned a study, even though the study didn’t actually show what he wanted it to show he shut it down anyway. Some of his criticism were quite simply ridiculous, for example because transwomen didn’t magically become better at makeup after SRS that counted against the program. Another example he used was that they weren’t obsessed about babies like other women, imagine that, people who know they have absolutely zero chance of conceiving a baby weren’t obsessing about being pregnant, additionally in reality women don’t obsess about babies all the time.
WilliamOK said:
You are trying to minimize his story, just as a previous poster tried to minimize the story of the woman in the OP. I see this as a trend which runs counter to enlightenment. In order to arrive at the truth, we should not be shackled by political correctness to the point where we cannot even discuss and give fair consideration to all points of view.

Mr Heyer is still here to share his valuable experience, and help people avoid what he went through. Today psychology has largely given up on treating gender dysphoria, opting instead to mutilate a perfectly healthy body to bring it into alignment with a mind that is at odds with physical reality. Mr Heyer and others like him offer valuable balance to the lop-sided information the media is willing to disseminate. He should be heard, not hurriedly dismissed.
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The case of Walt Heyer is a reminder that psychologists should be extremely cautious regarding diagnoses when dealing with patients with DID. DID≠GID/GD
WilliamOK said:
Wow. You really believe that. I have to say my new catch-phrase here: “Reality is not your friend”, is it ?
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Actually I was phrasing it in a way that conveyed the sincerity of what the parent said.
 
WilliamOK said:
…Today psychology has largely given up on treating gender dysphoria, opting instead to mutilate a perfectly healthy body to bring it into alignment with a mind that is at odds with physical reality…
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That may be because, for the severely affected, there is no known, effective psychological treatment, and the patient is in considerable distress.
 
Joie_de_Vivre said:
Actually while there is some dissatisfaction for those who got SRS the rate of regret (those who wish they never did it) is only a few percent.
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Source? It sounds like you are trying to avoid a reality you don’t like.
Joie_de_Vivre said:
A doctor who had wanted to shut down the program at John Hopkins became in charge of it and commissioned a study, even though the study didn’t actually show what he wanted it to show he shut it down anyway. Some of his criticism were quite simply ridiculous, for example because transwomen didn’t magically become better at makeup after SRS that counted against the program. Another example he used was that they weren’t obsessed about babies like other women, imagine that, people who know they have absolutely zero chance of conceiving a baby weren’t obsessing about being pregnant, additionally in reality women don’t obsess about babies all the time.
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Do you really believe those are the reasons Johns Hopkins stopped doing sex change surgeries? I don’t. I think you are unwilling to accept reality.
 
Rau said:
That may be because, for the severely affected, there is no known, effective psychological treatment, and the patient is in considerable distress.
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It is a difficult problem, no doubt about that, but Walt Heyer is an example that demonstrates that there is always hope.
 
We at Johns Hopkins University—which in the 1960s was the first American medical center to venture into “sex-reassignment surgery”—launched a study in the 1970s comparing the outcomes of transgendered people who had the surgery with the outcomes of those who did not. Most of the surgically treated patients described themselves as “satisfied” by the results, but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn’t have the surgery. And so at Hopkins we stopped doing sex-reassignment surgery, since producing a “satisfied” but still troubled patient seemed an inadequate reason for surgically amputating normal organs.
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Dr. McHugh, former psychiatrist in chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital, is the author of “Try to Remember: Psychiatry’s Clash Over Meaning, Memory, and Mind” (Dana Press, 2008).

wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120
 
WilliamOK said:
We at Johns Hopkins University—which in the 1960s was the first American medical center to venture into “sex-reassignment surgery”—launched a study in the 1970s comparing the outcomes of transgendered people who had the surgery with the outcomes of those who did not. Most of the surgically treated patients described themselves as “satisfied” by the results, but their subsequent psycho-social adjustments were no better than those who didn’t have the surgery. And so at Hopkins we stopped doing sex-reassignment surgery, since producing a “satisfied” but still troubled patient seemed an inadequate reason for surgically amputating normal organs.
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Dr. McHugh, former psychiatrist in chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital, is the author of “Try to Remember: Psychiatry’s Clash Over Meaning, Memory, and Mind” (Dana Press, 2008).

wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120
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The question to be asked I think is whether the patient was less troubled than prior, and whether the patient believed the process was worth the result. The patients appear to say “yes” to the latter, and were not asked the former. It is not clear to me what “psych-social adjustment” means, nor how it was gauged.

There are a great many Medical institutions throughout the world who would disagree with Dr McHugh.
 
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