When was Jesus born?

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In what year was Jesus born?
I’ve heard 6 BC.

And what about Christmas. I’ve heard some Anti-Catholics (AC’s herein) say that He was not born in Christmas.

And if this is true, what does it mean to us? Certainly not a reason for leaving the faith.
 
If you ask a pro-lifer, it was when the Angel Gabriel paid the Blessed Virgin a visit and asked her to say Yes…and then Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:26-38 Believers don’t need an actual date.
 
If you ask a pro-lifer, it was when the Angel Gabriel paid the Blessed Virgin a visit and asked her to say Yes…and then Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:26-38 Believers don’t need an actual date.
StBruno… I love your answer!!! I often wonder why this is important to people, when is not the issue, the fact that he was born is…
 
If you zero in on the exact date, how will that affect your faith??:confused:
 
There is no satisfactory evidence establishing even the year, much less the month, of Jesus’ birth. December 25 is only the day assigned to celebrate Jesus’ birth. I think the dates given above, 4 BC to 7 AD are a fair estimate.
 
In what year was Jesus born?
I’ve heard 6 BC.

And what about Christmas. I’ve heard some Anti-Catholics (AC’s herein) say that He was not born in Christmas.

And if this is true, what does it mean to us? Certainly not a reason for leaving the faith.
What difference does it make when Jesus was born? That has nothing to do with anyone’s faith.
 
If one is to follow Luke’s chronology, Jesus was born no later than 3 BC, since Luke says He was 30 (Luke 3:23) in the 15th year of Tiberius (Luke 3:1), which is 28 AD, subtracting 30 (keeping in mind that 1 AD jumps to 1 BC), we get 4/3 BC earliest, although context suggests that Jesus’ baptism happened immediately after John started, a later date can be argued.
 
Most scholars now believe it was sometime before ) BC, or between 6 & 3 BC- which I always find somewhat humorous to say Christ was born before BC (but makes the John 1 more accurate in a way which is fine with me).

This leads many to believe it was sometime in the spring:
Luke 2: 8And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night.
since neither the flock or sheherds stayed out at night in the winter.

or

May 27, 7 BCE

However, the exact date, much like the lack of childhood inforamtion, that lack of specific family information and such other mysteries are, I think, mysteries on purpose.

Technology today would/could cause havoc. A “devout” person might “design a baby” to be born on that particular date, modify eye and hair color, gender…families might try to have the same “number of children” as Christs family… whether true or not.

It serves no greater purpose. Wonder and curiosity are fine, but the lack of particular knowledge I think serves a greater purpose. It is the concentration of those greater purposes that we strive for. :twocents:
 
Perhaps those trying to compare the life of Christ against other known historical events might find merit in this endeavor.

Otherwise it doesn’t really matter, so far as I can tell.
 
Does it “matter”…I think it does. The quest for the historical Jesus, and the Christ of faith must end up at the same destination.

Christianity is a unique faith. God entered directly into our history, and became man (cf. John 1:14).

This is such an extaodinary claim that some of our oppenents on the athiest side of the fence have dismissed it because of the extroadinariness of the claim itself.

The point is, having entered our history, it is then historical, and so we can identify it.

However, I can fairly understand that for some people, this question is a low priority, and has little effect on thier faith.
 
In what year was Jesus born?
I’ve heard 6 BC.
That’s quite possible. Herod died in 4 BC and he ordered the massacre of infants of up to two years, so apparently, a margin of time had passed.
And what about Christmas. I’ve heard some Anti-Catholics (AC’s herein) say that He was not born in Christmas.
And if this is true, what does it mean to us? Certainly not a reason for leaving the faith.
Nope. In fact, it probably not likely he actually was born in December. Then again, he could have been.

His actual birth date does not matter. The important thing is that on December 25, we celebrate his birth, whenever that actually took place.
 
The magi were astrologers, and they knew that the conjunction of Jupiter (named “Guru” in Sanskrit) and Saturn (in Hebrew, “Shabbatai” – related to “Sabbath”) was the sign of the incarnation of who the Zoroastrians called the Shaoshyant, the Hebraic Messiah. Jupiter and Saturn conjuncted in Pisces (the astrological sign depicted by fish, with fish being an ancient secret symbol of Christianity) in the year 6 B.C., the year Jesus was born.
 
Actually I’d be willing to suggest that Jesus wasn’t born on Dec 25th, but on or around September 11th, 6AD.

In the 19th century, critical scholars made a crucial decision to
reject a total lunar eclipse in January 1 BC and to accept instead one in March 4 BC, as
the chronological cornerstone for dating the death of Herod the Great, and thereby, the
possible birth years for Jesus. And so the dating error begins.

Also, there are many clues in the Gospel of Luke (and not just the information about the census) which further cement the date.

Take the story of Jesus being presented in the Temple. This provides a number of clues to the date that this happened. For example, in Jewish law, a mother who had given birth was to wait 40 days before presenting the appropriate offerings in the Temple. This is still done in Orthodox Jewish families, minus the animal sacrifices, with a special ceremony.

Now to narrow down the date of this. There was an old woman in the Temple who had been in the Temple ‘a night and a day without leaving’. Now usually the Temple was opened at sunrise and closed at sunset, but there was ONE time of the year when the Temple remained open, and this was on Yom Kippur (Night of Redemption).

This shows the 40th day of Mary’s Purification had begun at the end of Yom Kippur,
the end of the 10th day of the 7th month, because we know the Purification was done at
the earliest opportunity–at the beginning of the 40th day after birth. And since the 6th
month normally had only 29 days, simple arithmatic shows Mary’s 39 days of Purification
had to have begun around sundown on the 1st day of the 6th month, called Elul.
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  This was the night of the first sighting of the new moon of Elul.  The Magi in Babylon
were recording this sunset sliver of the new moon on a clay tablet. The cuneiform tablet
the Magi made at that hour 2000 years ago, along with thousands of others from Babylon,
resides in the British Museum. It is possible that this clay tablet was inscribed by one of
the famous Magi who later brought a strange set of gifts to Bethlehem. So the new moon
seen by the Magi in Babylon at the very moment of Jesus being born is recorded on one of
the tablets now in London. Cuneiform scholars have identified the date on this tablet as
equivalent to September, 11, 3 BC.
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 We can also tell from Luke's Gospel that Jesus had been born in early evening, for
Luke says the shepherds were keeping watch by night, but still had time to go into town
and tell the people what they had seen earlier that evening. People rose early with the sun
in those days, and would have been asleep by 9 or 10 pm. Therefore, the birth had taken
place no later than 8 pm, and probably before 7 pm. Yet Luke says it happened at night,
which means after sunset–surely after 6 pm in September. Hence, it follows that Jesus
was born within a few minutes of 6:30-7:30 pm on the evening of September 11th, 3 BC.
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  A confirmation of this time is in the book of Revelation.  Historian Ernest L. Martin
consulted NASA lunar-phase tables and found the image of the heavens in Revelation 12
showed where the sun and the moon were, relative to Virgo, at the time Jesus was born,
pin-pointing sunset of September 11th of 3 BC. It seems the moon moves so quickly it is
“beneath the feet” of Virgo only a few hours every month. Moreover, the moon comes
within two lunar diameters of Virgo’s feet at the time of a new moon but once in 30 years.
The only such occurance any time near the birth of Jesus was on September 11th, 3 BC.
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  Most previous attempts at determining the birth time were based upon astrology and
dating the Star of Bethlehem. No one considered 3 BC because that year had erroneously
been assumed to follow Herod’s death. However, Dr. Martin has proven that Herod did
not die in 4 BC, but in 1 BC. Scholars are now generally accepting the new chronology for
Herod, and this in turn has allowed the confirmation of the New Testament date for the
birth of Jesus. Unfortunately, many churches continue to promote the critics’ errors and
paganized traditions about the Nativity.
 
Kouyate42,
That is a very interesting piece of information. I too have collected materials on the history of Christ’s birth, and it is correct the information you have come up with. Between 3-4B.C. is the birth date my books have for Jesus too. I find it so very interesting, historical information, dates and Church teachings. God bless and have a wonderful Christmas and New Years Season.

Bernadette173
 
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