When we pray for Justice

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I was wondering the other day, at how many different ways I use the term Justice. Especialy in my prayer. There have been times when I am looking to God for vengance, sometimes I’ve prayed for punishment. I have also used this idea in a more disinterested way, as a means for God to “sort it all out”. I’ve had a evolving concept of divine Justice for a long time but I think now I’m at the stage where I’ll leave what it means in any given situation up to God. I was wondering if any others have had a similar experience concerning Justice.
 
I think now I’m at the stage where I’ll leave what it means in any given situation up to God.
Well, this is just my humble opinion… but I think you’re on the right track. When we leave everything to God… in the “justice” department. Because He alone is the Just Judge. I know, it’s human nature… for us to seek justice, when we feel that we’ve been injured in some way. I’m speaking specifically of seeking vengeance against those whom we view as having hurt us.

But if we come a point, where we recognize God’s Authority in everything… and not seek vengeance against our brothers and sisters… that is a good beginning to “Peace on Earth”. It’s even better, if we can imitate Our Lord on the Cross… and forgive those who harm us.

Thanks for a good thought, sawman. God bless. 🙂
 
I’ve been thinking about justice, too, sawman.

“Vengence is mine, sayeth the Lord.”
Why? Because He does not want us to be so focused - on the matter
that we wish vengence for - that we miss all other realities, in life?
That He does not wish us to be* consumed* by the desire for revenge?

Basically, is God saying that He, being all knowing - knows the whole truth,
about any given reality? That we are to leave vengence in His hands?

“Beloved, do not look for revenge but leave room for the wrath; for it is written,
“Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”
…Do not be conquered by evil but conquer evil with good.” Romans 12:19, 21

We have a legal system, that tries to approximate justice.

The last thing in the world that I long for is “justice” meted out to me.
I’m going to beg God for mercy. http://bestsmileys.com/nono/9.gif Isn’t this why God says:
“As you measure out to others, so it will be measured out to you.”
If we extend mercy - that will be the measure that God measures by, too.

quote: reen12, from another thread
In the psalms, “justice” could refer to a person who didn’t have much, who longed to
have their case heard by a ‘judge,’ but couldn’t.
So the word justice meant several things, but one of those things meant
‘Hear my cry, O Lord. Let my case be heard.’

How many, across the centuries, “used” the law - to take even what little another had?
How many were blocked from protecting their rights against a jackal?
“The Lord hears the cry of the poor.” Psalm 9

‘Judge me, O Lord…’ didn’t necessarily indicate ‘self-righteousness.’
It was what any human being would cry, when no one would listen to them, because they were powerless.
O how they yearned for a judge - who would hear them.
And what of today? How many are deprived of justice, because they are poor?
What of them?

It will only be in His Kingdom - that His justice will reign, forever.

It is in this context, that I was riveted by the words of Amos the prophet,
as he spoke the words of the living God -

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reen12
 
Do not pray for justice. Pray for mercy, for it is mercy that God desires, not justice. Justice is for the dead. Mercy is for the living.
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B
 
Jesus, I trust in your Mercy.

Care for the widows and orphans.
Have mercy.
Live rightly and avoid evil.
Punish the evil-doer and restore those who’ve been done wrong.
Hasten the day when our accuser will be cast out.

Isn’t there something very fitting about the desire to see the wrongs righted?
To hope and pray for the restoring of the innocent?
To trust that God will make right the moutains of evil perpetrated throughout the centuries?

I sometimes hope that God comes to set right all our wrongdoing.
That we as a race,( human), be brought to the bar of Justice and called to account for our manifold evils. Because only an infinite ability to Judge justly, could seem to wait for so long! How long oh Lord?

Oh, please Lord, have mercy on those who suffer at the hands of evil men and angels. You hear my cry! Do hasten Lord!

That You did suffer at the hands of those who hate You, Hear my prayer.

It would seem that God’s Mercy would, at sometime need to make the restoration of Justice?
In all things I must beg for His Mercy. For me, and all.

Doesn’t this seem a little strange?
 
quote: sawman
Oh, please Lord, have mercy on those who suffer at the hands of evil men and angels. You hear my cry! Do hasten Lord!

That You did suffer at the hands of those who hate You, Hear my prayer.

It would seem that God’s Mercy would, at sometime need to make the restoration of Justice?
In all things I must beg for His Mercy. For me, and all.

Doesn’t this seem a little strange?
No, it does not. And I’ll tell you why I think this.

Judaism still looks for Messiah. Why?
Because the human Messiah will establish the reign of God on earth,
including the establishment of the justice and the righteousness of God.
The awaited Messiah will be a human being, not a God/Man.

A rabbi once asked a priest, who was his good friend:
“What has changed?” A fair question. What has changed,
radically, since Jesus of Nazareth walked among men?

The 20th century was the most lethal century in all of history.
It was, primarily, Christian nations that waged two world wars.
72 to 80 million dead, in WWII. The concentration camps. The gulags.
Pol Pot’s ‘policies,’ in Cambodia, are estimated to have killed
25% of the Cambodia population. What in the name of God is happening?
How could this be?
And how is it - that a Christian nation, our own, stood back and allowed
the hideousness of partial birth abortion to be legalized?

No, sawman, it’s not at all strange, to yearn for the establishment of
God’s Kingdom and His justice.
Jews, who await a human messiah, are heard to say: “Next year, in Jerusalem.”
Meaning that God may send Messiah, next year. That if each member of Judaism
will do their best to improve the world - and life in it - then God may send Messiah, next year.

So what of Christians? Christians say that He has already come.
That He promised to return, in glory. Looking at the charnal house,
that was the 20th century - for many many millions - is it not fair to
ask the question: “What has changed?”

The more acutely aware one is, of the horrors perpetrated by human beings,
the more one yearns for the establishment of God’s Kingdom and His justice -
tempered by His mercy.
That’s what I think, anyway. And I do not consider this at all strange.

What is passing ‘strange’ - is how all, who believe in God, have allowed this culture
of death - and culture of the obscene, to become firmly established.
There are then two ways of looking at this. One is “Maranatha!” 'Come, Lord Jesus!"
The other way is: “Next year - in Jerusalem.”

Both bespeak a yearning for the love and the justice and the righteousness of God
to be established - forever.

reen12
 
I was wondering the other day, at how many different ways I use the term Justice. Especialy in my prayer. There have been times when I am looking to God for vengance, sometimes I’ve prayed for punishment. I have also used this idea in a more disinterested way, as a means for God to “sort it all out”. I’ve had a evolving concept of divine Justice for a long time but I think now I’m at the stage where I’ll leave what it means in any given situation up to God. I was wondering if any others have had a similar experience concerning Justice.
I NEVER pray for Justice.

The LAST thing I want is Justice.

Instead, I always pray for Mercy.

A simple plea for Mercy.

Divine Mercy.

To beg the Infinite God to overlook my/our transgressions and sins and to forgive them and to bring all of us to Him.
 
Blessed are You , Oh Lord, King of the universe, for You have given us Your words to pray.
Your kingdom come.
Your will be done.
On earth as is in Heaven.

I sometimes cringe at these words. Although I pray them fervently,and with a burning desire in my heart, there is the “flip side”.
As much as I want His holy will manifested,I know it means uncovering of my sins and the punishment due to them.

I am not worthy to pray these words except through the work and assuming suffering of Our Lord.

You shall love the Lord, your God, With all your heart, and withall your soul, and with all your strength.

So when we pray for Justice are we not praying for God? To be manifested in all His atributes? Here in the earth, Or there in the hereafter? Now and for all time? The lion lay down with the lamb?
 
When I call, answer me, O God of Justice;
from anguish you released me; have mercy and hear me!

O men, how long will your hearts be closed,
will you love what is futile and seek what is false?

It is the Lord who grants favorsto those whom He loves;
the Lord hears me whenever I call Him.

Fear Him; do not sin: ponder on your bed and be still.
Make Justice your sacrifice and trust in the Lord.

Have mercy, Lord, and hear my prayer.
 
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