When we receive Comunion, are we consuming the Virgin Mary as well?

[IronMIke]

No.

Please don’t worship Mary. I see this becoming more and more of a problem.

 

[PCalungsod]

I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out. The other day I was thinking about all of the Eucharistic miracles that have happened throughout history. I remember reading how scientists were even able to determine what blood type made up the Eucharist (AB+). Then it hit me…all of Jesus’s DNA must have come from his Mother. This started to make sense to me when I reflected on how Mary is considered to be a “Co-Redeemer.” What do you guys think? Crazy? I am sure this has crossed somebody’s elses mind before.

As stated in an earlier post, it’s “co-redemptrix” and not “co-redeemer”. Secondly, the concept of transubstantiation states the Host and the wine becomes literal body and blood of Jesus. Jesus, not Mary. Their DNA may “match”, and may have same blood type or such, but they do have different bodies.

 

[JerryZ]

I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out. The other day I was thinking about all of the Eucharistic miracles that have happened throughout history. I remember reading how scientists were even able to determine what blood type made up the Eucharist (AB+). Then it hit me…all of Jesus’s DNA must have come from his Mother. This started to make sense to me when I reflected on how Mary is considered to be a “Co-Redeemer.” What do you guys think? Crazy? I am sure this has crossed somebody’s elses mind before.

That trend of though is flawed and the reason is that Jesus was a distinct individual apart from Mary.
His DNA was made with the X chromosome that was contributed by Mary’s DNA.
But He was a male and we know that you need the Y chromosome to make up a male individual.
If only Mary’s DNA had been used then you would have a clone. Since we are SURE this was not the case (Female - Male Individuals) therefore He was a separate and distinct individual.
By the way, God could have forgone using Mary’s DNA alltogether and since we do not have Mary’s or Jesus DNAs all of this hypoteticals are but an excercise in futility.
But from the limited knowledge we have we can safely assume the simple premise Mary and Jesus were definetively 2 disctinct individuals, No one would have mistaken them for clones!
Trying to use theology on this issue is not even warranted from the scientific point of view.

 

[poche]

No - the transubstantiation only applies to the body of Christ. However you are entering into an intimate communion with the Blessed Virgin when you recieve Holy Communion just as you enter into communion with all the saints in Heaven and your fellow Catholics on earth.

 

[Jamie_Burns]

I’m not good at science, but I know that although DNA has replicated sequences from the parents, each individual living creature’s DNA is unique. That is one thing that makes it such a beautiful example of the incredible complexity of God’s creation.

Jesus, in His human nature, had His own unique DNA code. So I think He is the ONLY individual whose human flesh we are receiving in the Most Holy Eucharist.

 

[TimothyH]

Definitely not! This is outright idolatry is you think that anyone else apart from Jesus Christ is in the Eucharist.

Sometimes there are questions on this site that would turn me away from CAF. I find it very distasteful. It is close to sacrilege to suggest that in Communion we are receiving Mary.
May I suggest that you read scripture and read the Catechism

I see no reason to accuse the OP of idolatry and sacrilege.

The OP asks an innocent question and is trying to learn. Not everyone who asks a question is a heretic.

-Tim-

 

[TriciaF]

As a Christian and a Catholic I found the question highly offensive and quite shocking and as I am attacked for saying so and fellow Catholics don’t agree but attack me, then I don’t belong in this forum, .

Jesus is God, and we receive Him not as simply a fellow human being based on DNA, but only God would give Himself in Communion, and Mary is not God therefor she cannot, and the bible never claims she does nor does the Church I can only wish everyone the best leaving this as my final post.
God bless and protect His truth in this forum and God bless those who visit here.

 

[PrayRosary]

LOL I am a heritic now?! Didnt mean to offend anyone, just bringing something up that crossed my mind! Tricia must be fun to hang out with, no?

 

[ConstantineTG]

I see no reason to accuse the OP of idolatry and sacrilege.

The OP asks an innocent question and is trying to learn. Not everyone who asks a question is a heretic.

-Tim-

It was a warning, not an accusation.

 

[Evan]

The DNA in the Bread is from a wheat plant, not from Jesus. The DNA is a chemical which is just an accident. Only the substance of the host becomes the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Lord. The accidents do not change. Therefore the DNA remains the DNA of wheat.

Mary was not wheat any more than Jesus.

 

[Andre1000]

The schismatic so called “Christian Palmarian Church of the Carmelites of the Holy Face” defined the real present of Mary as a dogma. Your question is not new, lol.

 

[ConstantineTG]

The DNA in the Bread is from a wheat plant, not from Jesus. The DNA is a chemical which is just an accident. Only the substance of the host becomes the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Lord. The accidents do not change. Therefore the DNA remains the DNA of wheat.

Mary was not wheat any more than Jesus.

Piece of advice, don’t mix philosophy (which is what substance and accidents are) with science.

 

[Evan]

Piece of advice, don’t mix philosophy (which is what substance and accidents are) with science.

The reason I brought that up is that there was so much discussion of DNA and the reception of Jesus in the Eucharist. The two are separate. DNA was in the body of Christ on earth, not the Body received in Eucharist.

 

[Trishie]

Piece of advice, don’t mix philosophy (which is what substance and accidents are) with science.

In defense of Evan, I note that science has already been a part of this discussion.
DNA has been mentioned frequently!

Adoration Prayer
My Lord Jesus Christ,
I believe that You are really here in this Sacrament.
Night and day You remain here compassionate and loving.
You call, You wait for, You welcome everyone who comes to visit You.
I thank You, Jesus my Divine Redeemer for coming upon the earth for our sake
and for instituting the Adorable Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist
in order to remain with us until the end of the world.
I thank You for hiding Your infinite majesty and beauty, beneath the Eucharistic species which Your Angels delight to behold,
so that I might have courage to approach the throne of Your mercy.
I thank You dear Jesus,
for having become the priceless Victim,
to merit for me the fullness of heavenly favors.
Awaken in me such confidence in You
that their fullness may descend ever more fruitfully upon my soul.
I thank You for offering Yourself in thanksgiving to God for all His benefits,
spiritual and temporal which He has bestowed on me.
Grant me grace and perseverance in your faithful service.

Amen.

catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=1088

 

[CB_Catholic]

The problem here is the lack of understanding of transubstantiation. Yes, Christ is really, truly, substantially present in the Eucharist, but it is a sacramental presence. It is a miracle we cannot truly understand.

The substance of the Eucharist, what it really is, is Christ’s Body and Blood, while the accidents-what it appears to be -are bread and wine. You will not find Christ’s DNA in the transubstantiated Body and Blood, just as you will not find actual blood cells and tissue cells.

And never do we think that Mary is present in the Eucharist, although the poster didn’t mean any harm.

 

[CB_Catholic]

I would say no.

Lets look at identical twins as an example for the whole blood/DNA thing

Each share the same DNA.
Each have their own body which in turn has their own blood
Each are their own person with their own soul.

Each is unique and distinctly different with their own thoughts, desires and will. They may have a large amount in common including their genetics but they are not the same person

Since Jesus has no human father, if we thought His DNA was only his Mother’s, that would make Him a clone, not a twin, wouldn’t it? I am sure the Holy Spirit came up with something else, and His DNA was uniquely His own, although He inherited some from His Mother. These are things not really productive to speculate on too much though.

 

[ConstantineTG]

In defense of Evan, I note that science has already been a part of this discussion.
DNA has been mentioned frequently!

The problem is that Transubstantiation is a philosophical concept. It doesn’t deal with scientific facts, and thus are two incompatible concepts. You can’t just jam in DNA with accidents and substance.

 

[Gorgias]

The problem is that Transubstantiation is a philosophical concept. It doesn’t deal with scientific facts, and thus are two incompatible concepts. You can’t just jam in DNA with accidents and substance.

Except that the assertion “DNA is a physical accident” seems quite reasonable…

 

[Trishie]

The problem is that Transubstantiation is a philosophical concept. It doesn’t deal with scientific facts, and thus are two incompatible concepts. You can’t just jam in DNA with accidents and substance.

Yes, but your reproach of me is unnecessary. I am well informed in the matter from Catechism and Church teachings.
However a number of those who posted on this thread have spoken of DNA. I realize there seems to be some failure to understand transubstantiation which after all is a divine mystery as CB Catholic remarked. It is not easy for any of us to understand divine mysteries.

It is strange how often people read into others words what they do not say.
I did not defend discussion of DNA, I defended Evan as not being alone in the discussion as others have discussed DNA prior to him in this thread. It was unfair to him to be singled out and I defend people when I feel that they are unfairly singled out. There is a distinction between defending a person, than in agreeing with their points. The DNA discussion had be going for pages, and is not one I would focus upon in any case, because it can muddy understanding the true divine mystery of transubstantiation.

My reminder would simply be that when the priest offers us the sacred host, he says, “The Body of Christ”, mentioning no other person. When he says the word of Consecration he speaks in Person of Christ, not in the name of any other person.

Kindly, Trishie

 

[graceandglory]

I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out. The other day I was thinking about all of the Eucharistic miracles that have happened throughout history. I remember reading how scientists were even able to determine what blood type made up the Eucharist (AB+). Then it hit me…all of Jesus’s DNA must have come from his Mother. This started to make sense to me when I reflected on how Mary is considered to be a “Co-Redeemer.” What do you guys think? Crazy? I am sure this has crossed somebody’s elses mind before.

Jesus said “This is My Body.” That is sufficient.