When were apostles baptised?

[chrpenka]

Hi.
I always wondered when apostles were baptised. It is obvious that it happened sometime between

• Jesus chose twelve to be His disciples (Mk 1, 16-20) and
• Jesus sent them to the whole world to preach evangelium and baptise in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. (Mk 16, 15-16).

After reading about baptism on Newadvent.org, they were probably baptised before they recieved Holy Eucharist and before the institution of priesthood as baptism is an “entry” for recieving of other sacraments.

I personally think it happend after Jesus´ baptism by John the Baptist. That Jesus then baptised His apostles so that they could baptised too. (John 3,22, 4,1-2)

And yet, I am still wondering. Baptism means to be freed from sin when Christ died on the cross and destroyed the death and it means the ressurection with Christ to the new life of God´s children. I mean that the baptism is for the forgiveness of sin and it was fulfilled by the death and resurection of Christ.
Does it mean that when disciples were baptised and then they baptised others in Judea as it is described in John 3,22 and 4,1-2 that this baptism is different from when disciples baptised after Pentecost? I don´t think so, eventhough I can´t explain why I think so.

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

Hi.
I always wondered when apostles were baptised. It is obvious that it happened sometime between

• Jesus chose twelve to be His disciples (Mk 1, 16-20) and
• Jesus sent them to the whole world to preach evangelium and baptise in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. (Mk 16, 15-16).

After reading about baptism on Newadvent.org, they were probably baptised before they recieved Holy Eucharist and before the institution of priesthood as baptism is an “entry” for recieving of other sacraments.

I personally think it happend after Jesus´ baptism by John the Baptist. That Jesus then baptised His apostles so that they could baptised too. (John 3,22, 4,1-2)

And yet, I am still wondering. Baptism means to be freed from sin when Christ died on the cross and destroyed the death and it means the ressurection with Christ to the new life of God´s children. I mean that the baptism is for the forgiveness of sin and it was fulfilled by the death and resurection of Christ.
Does it mean that when disciples were baptised and then they baptised others in Judea as it is described in John 3,22 and 4,1-2 that this baptism is different from when disciples baptised after Pentecost? I don´t think so, eventhough I can´t explain why I think so.

It was suggested once that possibly at the washing of the feet, in light of Christ’s words to Peter.

 

[anjoh66]

Most probably some of them were baptized by john as some were his followers before they followed Jesus.

I dont know if i am right but Jesus never baptised anyone, the apostles did even after the baptism of Jesus, but the bible says that Jesus himself didnt baptise.

Also i have heard the suggesstion of Br. Rich that it was by the washing of the feets, what contradicts that is Jesus words , “you are all clean” Jesus said that whoever took a bath are clean and only need the feets to be washed, it could mean that all of them were already baptized.

 

[anjoh66]

Right after telling Nicodemus that:

Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (John 3:5),

We read in John 3:22

After these things Jesus and his disciples came into the land of Judea: and there he abode with them, and baptized.

John’s followers became upset by Jesus’ baptisms.

And they came to John, and said to him: Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond the Jordan, to whom thou gavest testimony, behold he baptizeth, and all men come to him.(John 3:26)

John told them that this was what was supposed to happen.

The Jews also took note of the baptisms.

1 When Jesus therefore understood that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus maketh more disciples, and baptizeth more than John, 2 (Though Jesus himself did not baptize, but his disciples,)
3 He left Judea, and went again into Galilee (John 4:1-3)

So not only was Jesus baptizing disciples, he actually baptized more than John, all prior to His death. Since His disciples were performing the baptisms, it is safe to assume that they had been baptized in the name of Jesus, since it was Jesus who authorized this baptism. Twelve of these early disciples became the apostles.

And as verse 2 says (Though Jesus himself did not baptize, but his disciples,) it is clear that Jesus authorized the baptisms but did not administer them himself. Thats why we can say that he was baptizing even if he didnt do it with his hands, he surely approved of it.

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

It was suggested once that possibly at the washing of the feet, in light of Christ’s words to Peter.

Here are the words from John’s Gospel:

13:7. Jesus answered and said to him: What I do, thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter.

There was more to His actions than was obvious.

13:8. Peter saith to him: Thou shalt never wash my feet, Jesus answered him: If I wash thee not, thou shalt have no part with me.

Without Baptism we have no part with Him.

13:9. Simon Peter saith to him: Lord, not only my feet, but also my hands and my head.
13:10. Jesus saith to him: He that is washed needeth not but to wash his feet, but is clean wholly. And you are clean, but not all.

The application of water to a small part of the person cleanses the whole person in Baptism.

13:11. For he knew who he was that would betray him; therefore he said: You are not all clean.

This had no effect on Judas because he was not repentant and intended to betray Christ anyway.

 

[Texas_Roofer]

Tough it would seem the Apostles would surely not have ignored the preaching to repent and be baptized, they were also filled by the Holy Spirit and tongues of fire see Acts 2:1-4. this may seem backward however baptism and repenting is actions to align with the Holy Spirit and impart the grace of God. Since the Holy Spirit filled them we know they were in full communion. Similarly the Church teaches baptism can occur without water, in cases of desire(fire) or blood (martyr).

 

[anjoh66]

Tough it would seem the Apostles would surely not have ignored the preaching to repent and be baptized, they were also filled by the Holy Spirit and tongues of fire see Acts 2:1-4. this may seem backward however baptism and repenting is actions to align with the Holy Spirit and impart the grace of God. Since the Holy Spirit filled them we know they were in full communion. Similarly the Church teaches baptism can occur without water, in cases of desire(fire) or blood (martyr).

There is also the case of Cornelius who recieved the Holy Spirit even before he was baptised.

Acts 10:44 While Peter was yet speaking these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them that heard the word.
45 And the faithful of the circumcision, who came with Peter, were astonished, for that the grace of the Holy Ghost was poured out upon the Gentiles also.

46 For they heard them speaking with tongues, and magnifying God.
47 Then Peter answered: Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, who have received the Holy Ghost, as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Then they desired him to tarry with them some days.

This was done by God to show those Christians who was with Peter that the gentiles also had part of the salvation in christ.

Thereby Peters words: Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, who have received the Holy Ghost, as well as we?