When Will Lifeteen Mass Go Away?

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What is Life Teen Mass? Is it just to do with the music? (I live in the UK and, to the best of my knowledge, we don’t have Life Teen Mass.) I know I could research this on the Net but that’s not the same as having it explained by those of you with first hand experience. I have two teenagers and two other children who will be teenagers in the not too distant future. I would love to find away of getting them to Mass other than by parental edict!
 
I don’t really care what anybody says (save the pope), but there’s something seriously wrong when you start adapting the mass and breaking the rules “for the teens”. Seriously wrong. Just the message you want to send to them: I know you don’t like doing it the right way, so we’ll cater everything to you, so you have no idea what a real reverent catholic mass is like.
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I don’t really care what anybody says (save the pope), but there’s something seriously wrong when you start adapting the mass and breaking the rules “for the teens”. Seriously wrong. Just the message you want to send to them: I know you don’t like doing it the right way, so we’ll cater everything to you, so you have no idea what a real reverent catholic mass is like.
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But a Life Teen Mass does NOT break any rules. It can be reverent and liturgically-correct.

Just because music isn’t chant and the language isn’t Latin doesn’t mean it is irreverent.

And if you don’t care what your bishop says, I think you should perhaps examine your Catholic teachings.
 
Perhaps if I saw what you witness, I would feel the way you do. I think I could appreciate the program if I saw what you describe. From what I’ve seen, the mass has been watered down to a performance by a generic Christian rock band. If it wasn’t for the eucharist you wouldn’t know you’re in a Catholic church. If anyone from the Lifeteen movement is out there I would encourage you to get the word out as much as possible the proper way of conducting the program and discourage its abuse.

Incidentally I’ve read that one of the founders of Lifeteen has been in some trouble with the Church. This article gives me some concern:
PHOENIX (CNA) - Bishop of Phoenix Thomas J. Olmsted has issued a decree of excommunication to Monsignor Dale Fushek, founder of LifeTeen, and Father Mark Dippre for their establishment of and leadership in an “opposing ecclesial community.”

Fushek, one of three founders of LifeTeen, has not been active in the youth ministry for four years.

The priests had served together in the 1990s at St. Timothy’s Catholic Community in Mesa, Arizona, the East Valley Tribune reports. A year ago, they founded the non-denominational Praise and Worship Center, which meets Sundays at the Fiesta Fountains Recreation Center in Mesa.

Their meetings regularly draw 250 to 300 people. The priests’ 90-minute services begin at 10 am each Sunday and feature much music but do not include sacraments. Reportedly, the priests have repeatedly said their services are not to be considered “Catholic” in any way.

“They always claim that they are not doing something in opposition to any denomination, but they are always holding their worship services at a time that coincides with a lot of Catholic Masses.” Jim Dwyer, a Diocese of Phoenix spokesman, told the East Valley Tribune.

The East Valley Tribune quoted two attendees of Monsignor Fushek’s service who also attend Catholic Mass.

“I go to Mass for my sacraments, and I go to Praise and Worship for my Christian fulfillment,” Stan Nicpon said, adding that it has a “good community feeling.”

His wife Jan described her reaction to the service, saying “It is kind of a fulfillment beyond church. It is just a lot of great music that kind of fills you with a good spirit, inspiration and hope — a lot of hope.”

Monsignor Fushek, the former vicar general of the Diocese of Phoenix, is also awaiting trial on seven misdemeanor counts including contributing to the delinquency of a minor, indecent exposure and assault.

A statement from the Diocese of Phoenix explained the excommunications, saying that the two priests refused to comply with Bishop Olmsted’s “explicit directions” to discontinue public ministry.

“The excommunications were incurred after repeated offers of reconciliation were ignored,” the diocese said.

The diocese’s statement remarks that the priests brought the excommunication upon themselves and explains that the priests cannot celebrate Mass or participate in any other ceremonies of worship.

“They are also prohibited from celebrating or receiving any of the sacraments. In addition, they forfeit the benefits of dignity, office, or any function that they had previously acquired in the Catholic Church,” the diocese statement reads.

The diocese said that Bishop Olmsted continues to express “grave concern” for Catholics who may be “misled or confused” by the priests’ actions. The statement encouraged Catholics not to attend or support the Praise and Worship Center and reminded Catholics that “the ultimate form of praise and worship is and always will be the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.”

“There is no substitution for the graces received at Mass and no prayer more edifying,” the diocese said.

12/18/2008 Catholic News Agency

**“I go to Mass for my sacraments, and I go to Praise and Worship for my Christian fulfillment,” Stan Nicpon said, adding that it has a “good community feeling.” **

Herein lies one of the problems, I think. Anybody see anything wrong with this statement? As a Catholic, the sacraments should be your Christian fulfillment, no? If a Catholic doesn’t get that, he is missing the whole point.
I was waiting for someone to post about the excommunication of Fushek. He was also charged with multiple counts of sexual misconduct. From perverted minds come perverted ideas. Lifeteen should be abolished.
 
I don’t really care what anybody says (save the pope), but there’s something seriously wrong when you start adapting the mass and breaking the rules “for the teens”. Seriously wrong. Just the message you want to send to them: I know you don’t like doing it the right way, so we’ll cater everything to you, so you have no idea what a real reverent catholic mass is like.
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I very much agree. However, most Life Teen Masses are not breaking the rules. Here is the index of a hymnal sugguested by the Life Teen group: wlp.jspaluch.com/download/VoicesAsOneVol1.pdfMany of the songs are the same as those in the hymnals for the other Masses offered at the same parishes - the songs are only played at a different tempo and with different instruments. The different tempo and instruments work to draw in the kids whose parents don’t go to Mass. Changing the Mass by going out of the GIRM is wrong, but adapting music is not.
 
I was waiting for someone to post about the excommunication of Fushek. He was also charged with multiple counts of sexual misconduct. From perverted minds come perverted ideas. Lifeteen should be abolished.
I would have thought that the last place we’d find an analogy like that would be on a Catholic forum. That same sort of vitriol is used against our own priests in light of the sex abuse scandal.

And yet you’ll find dozens of people on this forum who’ll defend Archbishop Lefebvre despite the fact that he was excommunicated. It’s like we have a bunch of modern-day pharisees here.
 
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