When will Lutherans and Anglicans merge?

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GKC said:
Henry was the fons et origo of the Church in England, with the Henrician Acts of 1534-35. Cranmer was instrumental in shaping the course of the CoE, first working under Henry’s basic orthodoxy, then under Edward VI’s Protectors, Somerset and Northumberland, more to his way of mind. The Edwardian period moved the CoE toward the reformed side, with Cranmer’s assistance. Just as Elizabeth I shifted it back toward a* via media,* under the Elizabethan Compromise.

But what was going on there was the shaping of the CoE, in one way and another, not its founding.

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I must get back to England. Went to Windsor on business but there is so much more to see and learn.

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LegoGE1947 said:
Not only that, there are several divisions in the Lutheran Church alone, at least in the US. There is the Lutheran Church of America; Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod, and probably a few more I don’t know the names of. In our town there are two Lutheran churches just a block away from each other. I’m thinking they might be two completely different branches of Lutheranism.🤷
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The ALC and the LCA along with another moderate synod that left LCMS after the Senimex scandal all merged into ELCA many years ago.

LCMS and ELCA are by far the largest Lutheran bodies in the USA. There are also a few other Synods like WELS.
 
The problem with Angelicans, is that their theology is a mile wide and an inch deep. It includes everything from the low church ( Calvinist ) to the high church ( Catholic ). The basic theology is Calvinist.
 
andrewstx said:
The ALC and the LCA along with another moderate synod that left LCMS after the Senimex scandal all merged into ELCA many years ago.

LCMS and ELCA are by far the largest Lutheran bodies in the USA. There are also a few other Synods like WELS.
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Probably the most encompassing of all major Christian faiths, the ELCA has communion with Presbyterians/ Methodist, Reformed. The commonalty being the Apostles/ Nicene creeds.
 
GKC said:
Can you expound on that a little?

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You could Google Thomas Cranmer and check out the Wikipedia article on him. He was Archbishop of Canteberry and a friend of Henry VIII. The rest of the story is on Wikipedia.
 
LegoGE1947 said:
You could Google Thomas Cranmer and check out the Wikipedia article on him. He was Archbishop of Canteberry and a friend of Henry VIII. The rest of the story is on Wikipedia.
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Or I could read around 150 books on the Tudor period. As I have.

Go thou and do like wise. Start with post #17 above, maybe.

(Jon - not likely you’ll need the popcorn).

GKC
 
GKC said:
Or I could read around 150 books on the Tudor period. As I have.

Go thou and do like wise. Start with post #17 above, maybe.

(Jon - not likely you’ll need the popcorn).

GKC
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I needed some while waiting for your response. 🙂

Jon
 
George_Stegmeir said:
Does anyone recognize the irony of all of this? King Henry VIII, the founder of the Anglican Church, was named “Defender of the Faith” for his opposition to Martin Luther! And, dispite his break with Rome, he remained opposed to Luther for the rest of his life.
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yes, I do see the irony. I would rather see the Lutherans work out something with the Pope as the Anglicans (not all, course, chose to unite) did and unite with the Catholic church again. but I don’t know if that will ever happen.

I could possibly see the liberal branches or Anglican and Lutherans trying some type of merge.
 
=7 Sorrows;10709733]yes, I do see the irony. I would rather see the Lutherans work out something with the Pope as the Anglicans (not all, course, chose to unite) did and unite with the Catholic church again. but I don’t know if that will ever happen.
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With God all things are possible. It will be hard work.
I could possibly see the liberal branches or Anglican and Lutherans trying some type of merge.
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This has already happened in America with TEC and ELCA in full altar and pulpit fellowship. In Northern Europe, there is the Porvoo agreement.

Jon
 
GKC said:
Peter J;10709540:
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Or I could read around 150 books on the Tudor period. As I have.
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:pshaw: Amateur.I’m estimating. Bought 9 books in the past week or so.
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I’m up to … hold on, I have to think for a sec … 279 … 280 … 281 … 282 … Okay not really, I just couldn’t resist throwing in a little (bad) joke. Well, and I wanted to use the pshaw icon.
 
7_Sorrows said:
I would rather see the Lutherans work out something with the Pope as the Anglicans (not all, course, chose to unite) did and unite with the Catholic church again.
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Is that like saying, Not all Orthodox chose to get in on the Union of Brest?
 
Peter_J said:
I’m up to … hold on, I have to think for a sec … 279 … 280 … 281 … 282 … Okay not really, I just couldn’t resist throwing in a little (bad) joke. Well, and I wanted to use the pshaw icon.
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S’ok.

My estimate for my total book holdings, as of yesterday around 5PM, is approximately 30,000 titles.

More less. Been accumulating them for around 55 years or so.

You should see the house.

My grandmother was a great one for using “Pshaw”. Not the icon, the word.

GKC
 
I am not sure if it is true now, but several years ago I heard more congregations left the ELCA over the proposed communion with the Episcopal Church than over the sexuality statement. As a result of the communion, the ELCA is trying to re-establish apostolic succession for its pastors. The chain was broken early in American Lutheran history as there were not enough pastors who held apostolic succession who were willing to come to North America, and there were many congregations begging for trained clergy.
 
GKC said:
The Archbishop of Canterbury is nominal head of the Anglican Communion, but not of any Anglican Church save the Church of England. It is a honorary title, not an hierarchical one.

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The Queen is the head of the Church of England, not the archbishop of Canterbury.
 
eamonnroma said:
The Queen is the head of the Church of England, not the archbishop of Canterbury.
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The Sovereign is the supreme governor of the CoE. Henry’s original title was supreme head. Things changed.

Reference to Cantaur as the nominal head is not referring to Elizabeth I’s Act of Supremacy (1559), as establishing the Sovereign’s title, but to his role in the episcopacy.

GKC
 
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