Where are the roots to Marian doctrines?

[Judas_Thaddeus]

BIG DISCLAIMER: I am Roman Catholic and do love Mary, accept and believe everything that the Church teaches regarding Mary, as Queen of Heaven, co-Mediatrix (which is not identical to how Jesus is Mediator), etc etc etc…

Now that we have that out of the way, Where did this all start?

Not all the teachings about Mary are in the New Testament, at least so explicitly.
Where did it all come from?

I realize the Apostles likely handed down information regarding this.

I suppose also that the Church is lead by the Holy Spirit regarding the teachings about Mary.

But what is the visible history revealing how the Church saw Mary?

That iss pretty much it, just wanna see the develop-
ment of Marian Doctrine (Which I do Believe in).

 

[JM3]

Marian doctrine developed as our understanding of Jesus developed.

This is a very good book.

amazon.com/Mystery-Mary-Paul-Haffner/dp/1595250085

 

[pablope]

BIG DISCLAIMER: I am Roman Catholic and do love Mary, accept and believe everything that the Church teaches regarding Mary, as Queen of Heaven, co-Mediatrix (which is not identical to how Jesus is Mediator), etc etc etc…

Now that we have that out of the way, Where did this all start?

Not all the teachings about Mary are in the New Testament, at least so explicitly.
Where did it all come from?

I realize the Apostles likely handed down information regarding this.

I suppose also that the Church is lead by the Holy Spirit regarding the teachings about Mary.

But what is the visible history revealing how the Church saw Mary?

That iss pretty much it, just wanna see the develop-
ment of Marian Doctrine (Which I do Believe in).

As the Church developed its understanding of the nature of Christ…then came Mary.

Another book recommendation: amazon.com/Hail-Holy-Queen-Scott-Hahn/dp/0385501684

 

[Lancer]

Luke 1: 47-55
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSV-CE)

Mary’s Song of Praise

“My soul magnifies the Lord,
47 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,
48 for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden.
For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed;
49 for he who is mighty has done great things for me,
and holy is his name.
50 And his mercy is on those who fear him
from generation to generation.
51 He has shown strength with his arm,
he has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts,
52 he has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree;
53 he has filled the hungry with good things,
and the rich he has sent empty away.
54 He has helped his servant Israel,
in remembrance of his mercy,
55 as he spoke to our fathers,
to Abraham and to his posterity for ever.”[j]

Catechism of the Catholic Church

Mary - “Blessed is she who believed”

148 The Virgin Mary most perfectly embodies the obedience of faith. By faith Mary welcomes the tidings and promise brought by the angel Gabriel, believing that “with God nothing will be impossible” and so giving her assent: "Behold I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be [done] to me according to your word."12 Elizabeth greeted her: "Blessed is she who believed that there would be a fulfillment of what was spoken to her from the Lord."13 **It is for this faith that all generations have called Mary blessed.**14

149 Throughout her life and until her last ordeal 15 when Jesus her son died on the cross, Mary’s faith never wavered. She never ceased to believe in the fulfillment of God’s word. And so the Church venerates in Mary the purest realization of faith.

Pax Christi

 

[TimothyH]

But what is the visible history revealing how the Church saw Mary?

This is a very wise question.

In order to properly understand the Bible we have to remember that it is a Jewish document, written by Jews mostly for a Jewish audience. When we read the Bible like the ancient Jews who wrote it and their Jewish audience, we see clearly that Mary is a Queen. That is the first thing we have to understand, that Mary is a Queen.

The mother of the King was always the Queen in the Old Testament. The story of Bathsheba, the mother of Solomon, is an obvious example.

***He also removed Ma’acah his mother from being queen mother **(1 Kings 15:13)

Jehu met the kinsmen of Ahazi’ah king of Judah, and he said, “Who are you?” And they answered, "We are the kinsmen of Ahazi’ah, and we came down to visit the royal princes and the sons of the queen mother." (2 Kings 10:13)

This was after King Jeconi’ah, and the queen mother, the eunuchs, the princes of Judah and Jerusalem, the craftsmen, and the smiths had departed from Jerusalem. (Jerimiah 29:2)*

The mother of the king was the queen, and that was a position within the royal court known as the Gebirah. Not just anyone got to see the king and ordinary people went to the Gebirah to ask the king for favors. Twenty nine different Gebirah are mentioned in the books of 1 and 2 Kings and 1 and 2 Chronicals.

***Jehoi’achin was eighteen years old when he became king, and he reigned three months in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was **Nehush’ta the daughter of Elna’than of Jerusalem. (2 Kings 24:8)

**Ahazi’ah was forty-two years old when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was **Athali’ah, the granddaughter of Omri. (2 Chronicals 22:2)

**Uzzi’ah was sixteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned fifty-two years in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was *Jecoli’ah of Jerusalem. (2 Chronicals 26:3)

…and on and on.

When God mentions something two or three times in the Bible we should take notice. God tells us the name of the mother of the king twenty nine times in four books of the Bible alone! God is telling us that the Mother of the King is important. Mary is the Mother of the King of kings. Mary is a queen. Almost all other marian doctrines flow from this one fact.

-Tim-

 

[Mark121359]

Here is an outstanding book to read; Mary and the Fathers of the Church: The Blessed Virgin Mary in Patristic Thought by Fr. Luigi S. M. Gambero. Here’s a description about the book;

*Father Luigi Gambero, internationally-known expert on early Christianity, presents a comprehensive survey of the development of Marian doctrine and devotion during the first eight centuries. Focusing on the lives and works of over thirty of the most famous Church Fathers and early Christian writers, Fr. Gambero has produced a clear and readable summary of the richness of the patristic age’s theological and devotional approach to the Mother of God.
The book contains numerous citations from the works of those men who developed the defining Christological and Mariological positions that have constituted the foundational doctrinal teaching of the Church. Each chapter concludes with an extended reading from the works of the patristic authors. A number of these texts have never before been published in English.

The thought of the Fathers and early Christian writers continues to fascinate readers today. Their theological acuity and spiritual depth led them faithfully into the mysteries of Sacred Scripture. Their vast experience made them reliable and trustworthy witnesses to the faith of the people of God.*

After you read this book, follow it up with his second book on the subject that follows the first; Mary In The Middle Ages: The Blessed Virgin Mary In The Thought Of Medieval Latin Theologians. After you read these two books, you’ll have a very good grasp of the origin of Marian Doctrine.

Peace, Mark

 

[ealfred]

I would say as old as the Church especially when refering to the main dogmas related to Our Blessed Mother as below

1. Perpetual virginity of Mary: is the first belief that the church held.
2. Mother of God: this title was used to confirm that Christ is divine. It was officially recorded in Third Ecumenical Council held at Ephesus in 431

Eventhough that the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption of the Virgin Mary are relatively new dogmas, the believe in them are old in the Church tradition.

 

[vatcatholic]

Roots of the marian doctrines can be found in the bible. Mary was the ark of the new covenant and just like the ark of the old covenant that makes her a very powerful weapon against the devil. Like the Ark of the old covenant held the 10 commandments and the manna from the desert so Mary held in her womb the true bread of life and the word of God. also no one was allowed to touch the ark just like no man touched Mary’s virginity. Also it was at her prompting that Jesus worked his first miracle even though Jesus said it was not yet his time. this shows Mary’s amazing intercession abilities. www.vaticancatholic.com

 

[melekali]

You need to read. I recommend the following book:

**Mariology: A Guide for Priests, Deacons, Seminarians, and Consecrated Persons **

 

[Magnanimous]

Some of it comes from Sacred Scripture, some of it comes from Sacred Tradition, like everything in our faith, and together these two strands form the Magisterium.