Where can I attend the TLM?

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I’m looking to attend the TLM on a regular basis for the first time. Is there a complete list of where I can attend? In particular, I’m looking to attend in Illinois around the Chicago, South Elgin, and Elgin area.

I’m not sure where to look to find this information so any help would be much appreciated. Also, what is the proper attire to attend the TLM? I’m a male by the way.

Oh, and is there anything I should know before attending?
 
Thanks to both of you!

St. John Cantius is about an hour away from me, but by the looks of it, it is well worth it.

I called their parish for mass times. But what is the difference between a low and high mass? They have a high mass at 12:30 and the later the better for me, and so I was thinking of attending those.
 
Low Mass is a lower-key Mass. The music is generally simpler and much of the Mass is spoken, rather than sung. A High Mass uses more music, the Mass is sung in its entirety and, to put it incredibly simply, they use more bells and smells 🙂

If you are looking for the solemnity and austerity that is often considered a big part of the TLM, I would highly recommend the High Mass.
 
Thank you NetNuncio!

I have a few other questions if you or anyone else can answer…
  1. Does each church, St. John Cantius in particular, have enough the 1962 missals for all the parishioners to follow or must I buy my own to bring to Mass? Since I do not know Latin I need to make sure I have a way to follow along.
  2. Do I say “amen” before I stick out my tongue out for communion (I never received it with my tongue).
  3. Does the TLM offer the chalice too? If so, what is the proper way to receive it? Like, do I let them bring it to my mouth and sip it or do I take hold of the cup?
 
  1. I think there are usually missals available. Lots of people bring their own, and you can buy ones with the readings and stuff. But, there are very affordable pamphlet-style missals . Don’t worry about buying one just now. Even if they don’t have one available, just watching and listening prayerfully will be enough.
  2. You do not say “Amen.”
  3. You will not be offered the Precious Blood.
 
HOPEFUL_IN_UK said:
  1. I think there are usually missals available. Lots of people bring their own, and you can buy ones with the readings and stuff. But, there are very affordable pamphlet-style missals . Don’t worry about buying one just now. Even if they don’t have one available, just watching and listening prayerfully will be enough.
  2. You do not say “Amen.”
  3. You will not be offered the Precious Blood.
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Thanks for your response.

So, the priest doesn’t say “Body of Christ” before you receive Him? What does he say then? Why aren’t you suppose to say amen?

How come the Precious Blood is not offered?
 
Slayer said:
Thanks for your response.

So, the priest doesn’t say “Body of Christ” before you receive Him? What does he say then? Why aren’t you suppose to say amen?

How come the Precious Blood is not offered?
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The priest says something in Latin that includes the words “the body of Christ.” Someone will be along shortly to tell you. I don’t know why you don’t, but you don’t.

And, the Precious Blood is not offered because it’s generally been thought to be too tricky to distribute reverently/without risk of spilling. The priest mingles the body and blood in the chalice and that means that when the faithful receive one species, they get both. (I may have that slightly wrong, but someone will quickly correct me if I do!) The priest will drink all of the precious blood, himself.
 
HOPEFUL_IN_UK said:
The priest says something in Latin that includes the words “the body of Christ.” Someone will be along shortly to tell you. I don’t know why you don’t, but you don’t.

And, the Precious Blood is not offered because it’s generally been thought to be too tricky to distribute reverently/without risk of spilling. The priest mingles the body and blood in the chalice and that means that when the faithful receive one species, they get both. (I may have that slightly wrong, but someone will quickly correct me if I do!) The priest will drink all of the precious blood, himself.
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The priest says the following prayer for each communicant (including the “Amen”) as he is distributing the Sacred Host:
Corpus Domini nostri Jesu Christi custodiat animam tuam in vitam aeternam. Amen.

Translation:

May the Body of Our Lord Jesus Christ keep your soul unto life everlasting. Amen.

The point made re: the risk of spillage is also my understanding as to why the Precious Blood is not offered to communicants. Recall, though, that both the Sacred Host and the Precious Blood contain the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ. So, you won’t be missing out. 😉

By the way, I completely agree with the recommendation to drive into Chicago to attend a High Mass at SJC. I went there the last time I was in town, and will make it a practice to always do so from now on whenever I’m within reasonable driving distance.

I’m almost certain that they have the popular red missal booklets available, which contain the Ordinary of the Mass (i.e. the prayers that are said during every Mass) in both Latin and English.

The booklets do not, however, contain the Propers (i.e. the prayers – such as the Epistle and Gospel – that vary from day to day) for all the Masses…just for one. So, unless you happen to go to Mass on that particular day, the Propers will be incorrect.

With a little searching, though, you can find the Ordinary and the daily Propers online.
 
It is also worth mentioning that the chalice may have been withheld from the congregation after the council of Trent in order to combat Utraquism, a 15th century heresy that said that, in order to be saved, man must eat the body and drink the blood and only receiving the host was not drinking, but only eating. This was against the orthodox teaching that body, blood, soul and divinity were present in both the host and the precious blood.
 
HOPEFUL_IN_UK said:
The priest says something in Latin that includes the words “the body of Christ.” Someone will be along shortly to tell you. I don’t know why you don’t, but you don’t.

And, the Precious Blood is not offered because it’s generally been thought to be too tricky to distribute reverently/without risk of spilling. The priest mingles the body and blood in the chalice and that means that when the faithful receive one species, they get both. (I may have that slightly wrong, but someone will quickly correct me if I do!) The priest will drink all of the precious blood, himself.
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That is not exactly right. Jesus Christ, body and blood, soul and divinity, is present under the appearance of the bread, and the wine. So it suffices to receive Jesus present under the appearance of the bread, and under the appearance of the wine (which you are not receiving in the rite). Under each, you are receiving Jesus Christ. I hope I said that right. If not, I am sure someone will correct me.
 
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It is also worth mentioning that the chalice may have been withheld from the congregation after the council of Trent in order to combat Utraquism, a 15th century heresy that said that, in order to be saved, man must eat the body and drink the blood and only receiving the host was not drinking, but only eating. This was against the orthodox teaching that body, blood, soul and divinity were present in both the host and the precious blood.
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That’s really interesting! Thanks.
 
NetNuncio said:
It is also worth mentioning that the chalice may have been withheld from the congregation after the council of Trent in order to combat Utraquism, a 15th century heresy that said that, in order to be saved, man must eat the body and drink the blood and only receiving the host was not drinking, but only eating. This was against the orthodox teaching that body, blood, soul and divinity were present in both the host and the precious blood.
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It would also indicate a division in Christ, so it’s quite obvious why it’s wrong, however I could see how people would pay attention to it.
 
Slayer: Go for the high Mass in all it’s splendor.

St. John Cantius has several different choirs. I don’t know which sings at the 12:30, but it will be heavenly either way.

Also, it is not uncommon among tradtional Catholics to have to commute an hour or longer to such a parish - unfortunately.

Once you go for a few consecutive Masses and then try to go back to a parish that has the typical contemporarly folk liturgy, it’s like going from prime rib to pureed beef in a jar (no offense Lord - I’m aiming at the namby-pamby way so many of those liturgies are celebrated). Grotto’s Ordinary Form was far from namby-pamby and I know there are a few others out there, but such reverent, solemn, and majestically celebrated Novus Ordo’s are not typical.

Come back and let us know what you though!
 
I am going to my first High Mass on Sunday, I will let everyone know what I think.
 
Slayer said:
  1. Does each church, St. John Cantius in particular, have enough the 1962 missals for all the parishioners to follow or must I buy my own to bring to Mass? Since I do not know Latin I need to make sure I have a way to follow along.
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I’ve been to St. John Cantius several times; they have always had enough of the red booklet missals there.

Even with the missal in hand, though, prepare to be somewhat befuddled. The Mass looks different, the words are different, and it isn’t just the language they are spoken in. It takes a while to adjust.

I went to St. John Cantius with a friend; she panicked and spent half the Mass furiously paging back and forth, trying to find where we were. May I humbly suggest that you do not have to closely follow along at every moment in the Mass, especially as a beginner?

Don’t be afraid to meditate on something you read or observe during Mass. Give up a little control and let God work on you where you are right now. Speak to Him, and to His saints, and be grateful for the tremendous sacrifice offered on your behalf. Offer your prayers in union with the priest’s, and just do the best you can.

Eventually, you will find familiar moments in the Mass that will make it easier to follow along. While I love St. John Cantius, I do find it easier to follow the progress of the Mass at Holy Angels in Aurora or the Shrine of Christ the King in Chicago. You might consider either of them as an option.

Holy Angels Parish
180 S. Russell Ave.
Aurora, IL 60506
holy-angels.org/church/index.htm
Traditional Mass 12:30 Sunday

Shrine of Christ the King
6401 S. Woodlawn Avenue
Chicago, IL 60637
institute-christ-king.org/chicago2/contact.html
8:00 am - Low Mass
10:00 am - High Mass
 
HOPEFUL_IN_UK said:
I look forward to it. 🙂
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Thanks, I have a question however, should I get a Missal book or just enjoy it the first couple times, and get one later, or will the parish most likely have one, this may be an unnecessary question, as I will call them today, however just in case I forget.
 
May I humbly suggest that you do not have to closely follow along at every moment in the Mass, especially as a beginner?
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Don’t be afraid to meditate on something you read or observe during Mass. Give up a little control and let God work on you where you are right now. Speak to Him, and to His saints, and be grateful for the tremendous sacrifice offered on your behalf. Offer your prayers in union with the priest’s, and just do the best you can.
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Great advice and I second this.

Take a close look at the prayers, especially the Judica me (psalm 42) in the beginning, and the prayers of the Offertory. Another profound spot to closely follow are the prayers of the priest as he Communicates.

You will notice that before he turns and presents our Lord, “Ecce Angus Dei…” (This is the Lamb of God…), he first receives the Body and Blood of Christ. Typically you are singing or hearing the Angus Dei being sung when he does this. Then, he turns and presents our Lord to the people at which time they respond three times with “Domine non su dignus…” (Lord I am not worthy…)

Take your time and don’t try to figure it all out in one Sunday.

Also, there are many missals out there. Some do a very nice job of explaining, in the sidebars, added details of what is going on. You can go into their giftshop and peruse the various ones they have.

God bless!
 
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