Where did Mary go to church at?

[virgo]

BrianH:

Christians did go to synagogue what are you talking about?
They did for several years after Christ returned. You are going to have to clarify if you will

Okay, maybe I didn’t clarify my point–sorry about that. I’m referring to the time before Jesus was known to be Christ. The original question was where Mary went to church. For some reason, I assumed we were speaking of her childhood and early adulthood, before Christ. She was Jewish. Her family was Jewish. Jewish people go to Synagogue. I was referring to the Jewish faith. I hope that’s clearer. Sorry for any misunderstanding. I’m referring to Mary’s faith “by tradition,” the faith she was raised with.

 

[BrianH]

cathgal:

They went there to preach the gospel for the unbelievers, not to celebrate the eucharist I don’t think.

???

Catholic encyclopedia

" they and their associates addressed themselves at first only to Jews, converts to Judaism, and Samaritans, that is to those who were circumcised and observed the law of Moses. The converts, and the Apostles with them, continued to conform to Jewish customs: they observed the distinction between legally clean and unclean food, refused to eat with Gentiles or to enter their houses, etc. (Acts 10:14, 28; 11:3). At Jerusalem they frequented the Temple and took part in Jewish religious life as of old (Acts 2:46; 3:1; 21:20-26), so that, judged from external appearances, they seemed to be merely a new Jewish sect distinguished by the union and charity existing among its members. The Mosaic ceremonial law was not to be permanent indeed, but the time had not yet come for abolishing its observance. The intense attachment which the Jews had for it, amounting to fanaticism in the case of the Pharisees, would have forbidden such a step, had the Apostles contemplated it, as it would have been tantamount to shutting the door of the Church to the Jews. "

 

[Shibboleth]

As others have stated here Mary was born and raised Jewish and from the seed of David none the less. As a female her participation in synagogue would have been limited but as others have stated early Christian writings speak of her being a temple virgin. I want to say that this was written about in the The Protoevangelium of James.

The fact that she was a temple virgin has been speculation as to why Joseph was able and willing to take a wife while abstaining from marital relations.

Jesus himself also attended synagogue. Very early in his life we see a story of him disappearing while on a trip to the synagogue following which he stated that he was with his Father.

After the resurrection of Jesus and the coming of the New Covenant there were many Jewish converts and as others have stated they were slow to give up the Law. That means that they still observed the Sabbath Day. This is why you see the Apostles stating such things like – let no man judge you on the feast days, Sabbath days, or holidays. You also see Peter and James staying with the Jewish converts and being reprimanded for some of their behavior – and lastly you see the first Ecumenical Council to confront circumcision.

All of this tells me that the first Jewish Christians did continue to attend Synagogue for a time.

The Didache a very early Christian document from around the year 70 outlines some of the order of the Mass – so at least by that time we see the emergence of a very unique gathering practice being held by the Christians.

 

[cathgal]

???

Catholic encyclopedia

" they and their associates addressed themselves at first only to Jews, converts to Judaism, and Samaritans, that is to those who were circumcised and observed the law of Moses. The converts, and the Apostles with them, continued to conform to Jewish customs: they observed the distinction between legally clean and unclean food, refused to eat with Gentiles or to enter their houses, etc. (Acts 10:14, 28; 11:3). At Jerusalem they frequented the Temple and took part in Jewish religious life as of old (Acts 2:46; 3:1; 21:20-26), so that, judged from external appearances, they seemed to be merely a new Jewish sect distinguished by the union and charity existing among its members. The Mosaic ceremonial law was not to be permanent indeed, but the time had not yet come for abolishing its observance. The intense attachment which the Jews had for it, amounting to fanaticism in the case of the Pharisees, would have forbidden such a step, had the Apostles contemplated it, as it would have been tantamount to shutting the door of the Church to the Jews. "

So what’s your point?

Did they or did they not preach the gospel to the Jews after Christ’s ascension, including at the synagogue?

 

[JoeyWarren]

virgo:

My point exactly. She was a Jewish woman who went to Synagogue, not a “christian” as someone here was asserting.

Was she not a Christian after the Resurrection?

 

[virgo]

sigh no one is reading my later posts.

Yes, I said that she WAS a Christian after Christ’s death and resurrection. BEFORE THAT, she was a Jewish person. She was raised Jewish. I don’t know why people are still debating this.

Mary was Jewish BEFORE Christ was born and Christian AFTER his death and resurrection (and maybe while he lived, as she followed his Way)…

Make sense now?

 

[JoeyWarren]

cathgal:

So what’s your point?

Did they or did they not preach the gospel to the Jews after Christ’s ascension, including at the synagogue?

Both. There were some synagogues that they probably chose not to preach to. The Church would not have survived if they went and forced the Gospels upon all Jews ( just as some Protestants try to force their belief upon others) within the first years after the resurrection. They would have all been martyred to soon and then who would have be available to spread the word? The preaching had to be selective indeed, just like selective marketing, look to the code word Peter used. He used Babylon as his code word for his location, which was Rome…

 

[JoeyWarren]

UBERROGO:

Where does the Bible or Tradition say that Mary went to church at? Does anyone happen to know?

It might be best if he rephased the question. IE Where does the Bible or Tradition teach Mary went to a place dedicated to worshiping God prior to the Resurrection and where does the Bible or Tradition say that Mary when to a place dedicated to the worship of her Son or God after the Resurrection?

And what is the purpose of the question?

 

[BrianH]

cathgal:

So what’s your point?

Did they or did they not preach the gospel to the Jews after Christ’s ascension, including at the synagogue?

I thought the quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia explains it well enough.
BH

 

[Eden]

We don’t have a lot of documentation about her Post-Pentecostal life, but as others have already said, she was left in the care of St. John after her only Son died. I liked the concise discussion of this on the Catholic pages website:

catholic-pages.com/bvm/pentcost.asp

When they entered the city they went to the upper room where they were staying, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Batholomew and Matthew, James son of Alphaeus, Simon the Zealot, and Judas son of James. All these devoted themselves with one accord to prayer, together with some women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers… (there was a group of about 120 persons in the one place).
(Acts 1:13-15)

We can expect that before His Ascension into Heaven, Our Lady was able to bid farewell to her Son, knowing she would see Him again one day, and that in a mysterious way, He would remain with her and the disciples. We see her immediately thereafter in the midst of the disciples in the Upper Room. She did not retire on her own, returning to her home in Nazareth to reminisce about her Son. No, rather, she stayed there with His Church, His followers, praying with them, consoling them, being their Mother, as she had been commanded to be.

So, I would assume that she worshipped in the same way that all early Christians did. Were you looking for a specific geographical area?

 

[Petergee]

Mary became the first Christian at the Annunciation, when she became the first person to say “yes” to Christ. She and the other Jewish Christians continued to practise Judaism until about 40-45 AD, when the Scribes and Pharisees forced Christians leave most of the synagogues. Even after that most of them practised Judaism privately. Judaism and Christianity are not mutually exclusive. It is quite possible for a person to practise both religions simultaneously, and some still do even today.

 

[Milliardo]

virgo:

ummm…I’m assuming she went to synagogue?

To whomever said that “the earliest christians” went to church, she was not a christian. Christianity did not exist yet. She was a Jewish woman.

Acts 20:7. Early Christians did go to the synagogue,but as well broke bread on the day of the Lord. I am curious if Mary was alive by the time the Temple was destroyed in 68 AD.

 

[StMarkEofE]

Milliardo:

Acts 20:7. Early Christians did go to the synagogue,but as well broke bread on the day of the Lord. I am curious if Mary was alive by the time the Temple was destroyed in 68 AD.

Highly unlikely, since she would have been around the age of 80+ which was beyond the average longevity.

 

[StMarkEofE]

Petergee:

Mary became the first Christian at the Annunciation, when she became the first person to say “yes” to Christ. She and the other Jewish Christians continued to practise Judaism until about 40-45 AD, when the Scribes and Pharisees forced Christians leave most of the synagogues. Even after that most of them practised Judaism privately. Judaism and Christianity are not mutually exclusive. It is quite possible for a person to practise both religions simultaneously, and some still do even today.

Yes they are mostly evangelicals.

 

[puzzleannie]

cathgal:

They went there to preach the gospel for the unbelievers, not to celebrate the eucharist I don’t think.

nobody said they celebrated the Eucharist there. please read carefully without bias the accounts of the Acts of the Apostles in the early chapters. The Jewish followers of Jesus including the apostles continued to worship in the synagogue on the Sabbath and in the Temple on the feastdays and holy days, and celebrated the Eucharist in house churches on Sunday.

After the final break with Judaism, and after the incorporation of so many Gentile converts into the Church, synagogue worship dropped because it was no longer possible or desirable, and the Sunday liturgy incorporated both readings from Hebrew Scripture, including the Law and the Prophets, singing the psalms, the memoirs of the apostles and their letters to the community (Gospels and Epistles) and preaching, then the Eucharist and prayers. See the Didache for a good description.

Mary accompanied John the Evangelist and presumably lived and worshipped with the community centered around him until her death or dormition, which tradition says happened at Ephesus.

 

[cathgal]

BrianH:

I thought the quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia explains it well enough.
BH

No it didn’t. It just explains what the Apostles did as a Jewish not specifically anything about preaching the good news.

 

[cathgal]

puzzleannie:

nobody said they celebrated the Eucharist there. please read carefully without bias the accounts of the Acts of the Apostles in the early chapters. The Jewish followers of Jesus including the apostles continued to worship in the synagogue on the Sabbath and in the Temple on the feastdays and holy days, and celebrated the Eucharist in house churches on Sunday.

and nobody said that they didn’t in this thread. It never occurred to me that the Eucharist was ever celebrated at the synagogue. I’m just stating a fact that it wasn’t celebrated there. You made it sounded like I believed it was celebrated at the synagogue.

 

[cathgal]

BrianH:

I thought the quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia explains it well enough.
BH

I just realized where your thought is. You should’ve communicated better. You’re telling me that they didn’t preach at the synagogue by the given quote. My question is did they EVER preach there cuz that quote doesn’t tell me that, more like out of context.