Where did the fish and bread come from?

[Verisimilitude]

This real event and miracle to be the only one recorded in all 4 Gospels: Two separate events in Matthew 14 & 15, Mark 6, Luke 9 and John 6.

Scripture is most often literal despite the secular apologetics to allegorize everything supernatural in order not to offend the sterility of ‘science’ when they contradict as they do. When it isn’t literal it is usually obvious like Jonah, or explicit like the parables.

A significant proclamation is in our Creed:

…We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, light from light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father;
through him all things were made…

Why the distinction? A pre-Copernican holdover of ignorance to a scientific fact we now understand?

There is something significant about the human being.

Matthew 10…So don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.

Abraham was given a ram in lieu of Isaac in Genesis 22. Where did the ram come from? Did it walk up and get its horns caught before or after Abraham built the alter?

I wonder if they (fish, bread, ram) existed before they were mentioned in the events. Unless the existing fish were transported from a body of water, the existing bread suddenly taken from an oven, and an existing large animal silently getting itself caught in a nearby thicket, they were made to be from nothing by God.

Does this prove evolution wrong? No, but it does give clear example to any that call themselves Christian that God does create ‘each according to its kind’ from nothing.

So the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the furniture of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made: and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had done.

The atheist is right because you cannot believe both if evolution mandates the creative event is on going and not finished. The racist is justified if molecule to man evolution is true. Eugenics, euthanasia, and abortion are legitimate secular human rights if the human being is nothing more than an animal.

As I understand it, geologic history has had at least 5 major mass extinction events that wiped out anywhere from 25% to 60% of all life on Earth each time and that 90%+ of all life that ever lived is now extinct. Nothing biblically prevents Creation to be over long periods of time between in different phases and stages for plants and animals with the human being coming last and notably set apart. A finch that changes color or habits due to different surroundings or finding other ways to survive is as remarkable as me getting a suntan or changing jobs from farmer to accountant. An extinct whale’s bone that has some similarity to a human bone is as conclusive a proof for accidental random mutation evolution as the proof that Christ rose from the dead.

 

[bpbasilphx]

As C. S. Lewis said, an individual MAKES or CREATES something of a different nature from himself. A man makes a house. A beaver makes a dam. A colony of bees make a hive. A colony of ants makes a hill.

But to BEGET is to produce something OF THE SAME NATURE as oneself. A beaver begets little beavers. A man begets a child.

And God the Father begets in eternity (outside of time) God the Son.

Now do you get it?

 

[James_S_Saint]

To “Beget” means to “bring about” or “cause”, not “to construct”.

You might want to be careful not to ignore the significant difference between metaphor and allegory. A metaphor is a real event told by changing the nouns (not verbs) into different more familiar things, whereas an allegory is a fictional story that typifies real events.

None of the miracles that I am aware of were allegory throughout the entire Bible (well maybe Job).