Where did this statement come from?

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A friend of mine posted the following quote on his Myspace blog. His post claimed it was from the Jesuit Oath of Induction. Any thoughts on its source? I believe my friend is part of some Seventh Day Adventist splinter group. He also posted that the Catholic Church has been responsible for the deaths of 100 million Christians, a common figure used by the most committed anti-Catholics.

This shocking statement that follows certainly does not seem like something the Jesuits would ever have said, but I’m curious to know if anyone knows where it comes from. Thanks!
“I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent to the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus.”
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-The Jesuit Oath of Induction is recorded in the Congressional Record of the U.S.A. (House Bill 1523, Contested election case of Eugene C. Bonniwell, against Thos. S. Butler, Feb 15, 1913, pp. 3215-3216) It can also be found in the book entitled, Subterranean Rome by Charles Didier translated from the French and published in New York in 1843.
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There’s more about this oath at thispage, which, interestingly enough, cites the famed Alberto Rivera as a source…:rolleyes:

I found a brief discussion of this from a couple years ago, but I was wondering if anyone had any more information. I’ve already read this: geocities.com/okc_catholic/articles/jesuit_oath.html

God bless!
 
All I can tell you is that on this forum before I’ve seen other people ask the same question you’re now asking about the same quote you’re presenting, always to be answered by other posters pointing the OP to links revealing the so-called “Jesuit Oath” to be a FAKE. My guess is that pretty soon some other posters will provide you with that exact same information. I don’t mean to sound irritable, I just hope you’re not going to worry to much about this.
 
Iambic Pen,

I don’t have any authoritative sources, but I have heard that this is a hoax that gets trotted out by anti-Catholics regularly.
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The_Iambic_Pen said:
A friend of mine posted the following quote on his Myspace blog. His post claimed it was from the Jesuit Oath of Induction. Any thoughts on its source? I believe my friend is part of some Seventh Day Adventist splinter group. He also posted that the Catholic Church has been responsible for the deaths of 100 million Christians, a common figure used by the most committed anti-Catholics.

This shocking statement that follows certainly does not seem like something the Jesuits would ever have said, but I’m curious to know if anyone knows where it comes from. Thanks!

There’s more about this oath at thispage, which, interestingly enough, cites the famed Alberto Rivera as a source…:rolleyes:
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That site you referenced to is really wierd. The “United States of Cabotia”?! And if the oath really appeared in print in 1843, then Alberto Rivera could not be the source, having been born some hundre years later.

Some sites say that one Robert Ware forged the oath in the 17th century. It certainly is a crude over-the-top effort. Can you imagine anybody actually speaking that way? Just as over-the-top as the 100 million figure.

angelfire.com/ms/seanie/forgeries/findex.html

Also read Newman’s discussion about how such lies are essential to the Protestant view of Catholicism.

newmanreader.org/works/england/index.html
 
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He also posted that the Catholic Church has been responsible for the deaths of 100 million Christians, a common figure used by the most committed anti-Catholics.
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That’s roughly 30 million more people than were even alive in the whole of Europe at the time of the Spanish Inquisition - and only about 9 million of them were Protestants (including Anabaptists, Puritans, etc., who mostly were being killed by Calvinists and Lutherans; not by Catholics) in total over that period of time.

What did Torquemada do, raise them back to life and then kill them again? :eek:
 

The reference to “Liberals” dates it - or that version of it, which helps a bit. There are versions which don’t mention Liberals.​

 
The_Iambic_Pen said:
A friend of mine posted the following quote on his Myspace blog. His post claimed it was from the Jesuit Oath of Induction.
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The authentic one:

“The Oath of the Jesuits.” As reproduced in The Age of Reformation, ed. Roland H. Bainton (Princeton, NJ: D. Van Nostrand Co., Inc., 1956), 152-153.
Whoever wishes to be a warrior of God under the banner of the cross in our society, which bears the name of Jesus, to serve God alone and His vicar on earth, the Roman Pontiff, must after taking the solemn vow of perpetual chastity dedicate himself to propagate the faith through public preaching and ministry of the Word of God, spiritual exercises and works of piety and particularly the religious education of children, by affording spiritual consolation through the hearing of confessions. He must keep constantly God before his eyes, striving to attain the goal set him by God and to fulfill those rules which are in a sense a way to God. Lest any behave with excessive zeal let each member place himself entirely under the direction of the general or prelates chosen by us. This general shall have authority to establish a constitution in conclave where the decision of the majority shall prevail. In major matters a majority of the entire membership must be present; in minor affairs those who happen to be at hand. Let every member recognize that not only when he makes his profession, but throughout his life, he is subject to the present Pope and to his successors. We are bound beyond the ordinary by a particular vow in this regard. If then the present Pope or his successors should send us for the improvement of souls or the propagation of the faith to the Turks or other infidels even in India or to heretics, schismatics or some of the faithful, we are to obey without evasion or excuse. Wherefore, those who would join us should consider long before taking this load upon their shoulders and should well count the cost whether they have sufficient spiritual wealth to build the tower. In everything touching the rule, let obedience be given to the general. He in turn is always to be mindful of the goodness, gentleness, and love of Christ. All should be concerned for the instruction of youth in Christian doctrine and the Ten Commandments. Since we have discovered a life of poverty to be more conducive to happiness, purity and edification, we vow ourselves to perpetual poverty not only singly but as an order in the sense that there is to be no legal holding but rather contentment with gifts covering necessities, except that in schools it is permissible to have whatever is necessary for students.
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That’s roughly 30 million more people than were even alive in the whole of Europe at the time of the Spanish Inquisition - and only about 9 million of them were Protestants (including Anabaptists, Puritans, etc., who mostly were being killed by Calvinists and Lutherans; not by Catholics) in total over that period of time.
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There’s also the killing that went back and forth between protestant and catholic rulers in England. And witchhunts and stuff. But still 30 mill is a lot.
 
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There’s also the killing that went back and forth between protestant and catholic rulers in England.
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Yes, and none of that was ever sanctioned by the Vatican. The Pope actually sent a letter to Catholic (Bloody) Mary telling her to cut it out.
And witchhunts and stuff.
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That was a Puritan specialty. I guess they decided that with the Catholics after the Lutherans, the Lutherans after the Calvinists, and the Calvinists after them, they ought to go after somebody, too.

Witches probably seemed like a safe bet, to them. “Who” they probably thought, “will ever think that witches are innocent victims? We can only come out looking like good guys, here.” 😛
But still 30 mill is a lot.
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It would be. And 100 million is just way over the top, when you consider that half the Protestants wanted the other half dead, and there were only 9 million Protestants in total, to begin with. And only 70 million people in the whole of Europe, including Jews, gypsies, witches, Catholics, Protestants, and any left-over Druids, lost Arabs, etc.
 
Thanks for the info, everyone! Yes, I’m not actually worried about it myself, but I’m just looking for something concrete to send to him. I think I can make a start, anyway. Thanks!

God bless!
 
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