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My husband and I were not married in the catholic church. My 2 children, ages 2 1/2 yrs and 8 months have yet to be baptised. I have not been involved in church since I was in grade school, after making my first communion. I am 26 yrs old, and am pretty much starting from the beginning. I want to raise my children Catholic, and my Husband wants the same.
We started going to church about 6 weeks ago. We really want to be practicing Catholics, but don’t even know where to begin. Do we start off by going to confession? Where would we find a bible study? my husband grew up Christian, and he is asking me questions about Catholicism, and I do not have the answers.
Please help steer me in the proper direction. Thank you.
 
Step on: make an appointment to go talk to a priest. Since you have been a while with out the sacraments, I would also plan to make confession at the same time. You will have several issues to address.

Since you were Catholic at the time you were married, you were bound to follow the Catholic form of marriage, unless you had a dispensation of form allowing you to be married outside the church. It is possible that you will need to have your marriage normalized (convalidated) within the Church. This is best discussed with your priest.

Second, you need to explore what is involved in having your children baptized. Sometimes baptism classes are required for parents to assure that baptized children have a reasonable expectation of being raised Catholic.

Third, your husband can explore what Catholicism is about, and explore his desire to be Catholic by attending RCIA classes. SInce you say you are pretty much starting from scratch, it might be a good refresher as well as spiritual support for you to attend with him.

God bless you for your desire to return to the Bride of Chirst, His Church. Feel free to frequent this board and ask lots of questions. We all love to answer.
 
First step I did was see the Priest of the church I am attending.
they are full of answers for our questions.
and can steer you on where you need to go…

You could do this with a simple phone call to the church offices
or speak to him after a mass.

Hope this info helps you out
John
 
by all means greet the priest after Mass and introduce yourselves, but for a lengthy conversation like this please call the office during business hours and ask for an appointment. He is probably getting ready for the next Mass, and has nothing to write down your name and number.At your first meeting he will advise you in a general way on how to proceed with convalidating your marriage, which is a rather simple process, how to return to the sacraments, how to enroll your children in religious education in preparation for the sacraments, and how to become involved in parish life. Welcome home. The priest will probably refer you to the deacon or whoever is in charge of marriage prepartion, and to the DRE or whoever is in charge of confirmation and religious education. This is also the time to ask about confession, and what if any changes you need to make in marriage and family life to conform with Church teaching.

You do not need Confirmation in order to have your marriage blessed, in fact, you must regularize your marriage, go to confession and be in the state of grace before you can return to the Eucharist and be confirmed. This will be fairly straightforward (assuming neither of you has ever been married before. if so, then it gets more complicated, but there is still a solution).

Make an appointement with your priest. If the secretary sends you to the deacon, sister or DRE instead, explain your situation to them, but politely insist on meeting with the priest because only he can deal with the pastoral problems and confession.
 
RCIA will also be a huge help! Congratulations on finding your way home. 🙂
 
Eli&Joshys_Mom:
My husband and I were not married in the catholic church. My 2 children, ages 2 1/2 yrs and 8 months have yet to be baptised. I have not been involved in church since I was in grade school, after making my first communion. I am 26 yrs old, and am pretty much starting from the beginning. I want to raise my children Catholic, and my Husband wants the same.
We started going to church about 6 weeks ago. We really want to be practicing Catholics, but don’t even know where to begin. Do we start off by going to confession? Where would we find a bible study? my husband grew up Christian, and he is asking me questions about Catholicism, and I do not have the answers.
Please help steer me in the proper direction. Thank you.
You both need to make an appointment with the pastor. Explain that you are Baptized but not Confirmed Catholic who wants to return to the practice of the Catholic Faith. You will progress through a returning Catholics process resulting in the Sacrament of Confession and a return to the Sacraments. You will also enter a process to prepare for Confirmation. Your Husband will enter the RCIA process as a candidate. Your Marriage (as a Catholic) may need to be looked at and possibly Convalidated if it was not properly celebrated.
 
Remember though RCIA is definately going to happen for you.

Also remember That you need to scedule an appointment with priest. Prepare yourself for confession at this meeting with the priest. Get a good book from Catholic answers and start learning the faith. Familiarize yourself with the Catholic church especially focussing on the Churches moral teachings…especially those associated with marriage…contraception etc.

The sooner you get to confession the sooner you can get back on track with frequent communion.
 
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decn2b:
Remember though RCIA is definately going to happen for you.

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no, RCIA is not going to happen for you, unless either of you is not Catholic. If either of you has not celebrated first communion or Confirmation, you may be in class with other adults who are preparing for the Rites of Christian Initiation, but if you are already baptized you are not in RCIA.

Your unbaptized children may be placed in an RCIA class for children, called the “children’s catechumenate” depending on their age. If they are still infants you can simply take whatever pre-baptismal classes are given to parents in your parish and have them baptized. This can happen right away, even before you have convalidated your marriage. If your children are canonical adults (usually over age 7, school age) then their process is RCIA, adapted for children.
 
Thank you so much for all of yuor replies. I will get started on all of this as soon as possible. I just wanted to let you know what happened at my earlier attempt to return to church.
I was pregnant with my first child, and started returning to church. I knew it was somthing I wanted in our life. When my son was about 4 months old, I went to the church office to find out what needed to be done to have him baptized. I told the woman in the front office about having my best friend and her husband baptize my baby. She was raised catholic, was baptised and made her first communion as well. She also attended church regularly. She was not married in the catholic church though.
My friend had no problems with attending classes to be able to have my son baptized. But the lady in the offfice told me she could not do so because she was not married in the church. I just couldn’t understand why. She then said “Don’t you want whats best for you baby?” I said “of Course! I wouldn’t have picked them if I felt they wouldn’t obey my requests! She procedded to tell me I would have to f"ind someone else”. And telling me they wouldn’t be in my childs best intrests.
I do not know anyone that has fullfilled the long list of requirements that she gave me. Was I supose to just find some strangers that happen to meet them all, to have my child baptized? I was very upset/confused/hurt about everything. She took my number and told me that the priest would give me a call to discuss the matter, but he never called.
I feel like my old church denied my baby.
This is why I stopped attending for a while. But now I have been going to a new church, which my husband I really enjoy. Thank you for listening to my story.
Oh! 1 more question… Any reading reccomendations for a “newbie”. Thank you so much.
 
This is more in response to the posts of RCIA is gonna happen.

I took it that this class is dreaded!
Personally I am really enjoying this class, and yes I have been baptized, I am converting to Catholic.MY fiance was Baptised Catholic and is in the same class.at least our Church calls it RCIA
anyways its nothing to dread.A ton of things are explained in terms that are easily understood which for me has been a huge Positive…

as for reading materials our class is using the “journey of faith”
folder,ask your church for a copy.great Material for us “newbies”
I wouldnt even consider it reading for Catholics only.
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     Good Luck

                        John
 
Eli&Joshys_Mom:
I do not know anyone that has fullfilled the long list of requirements that she gave me. Was I supose to just find some strangers that happen to meet them all, to have my child baptized?
Yes, it’s a long laundry list, but there are reasons for that. The godparents you choose should be strong enough in their faith to keep in touch with you and your kids over the years, to ask about how they are doing in their faith, offer to take them to mass or other religious ceremonies/retreats/concerts/seminars…to be a reinforcing voice and example in their lives of what it means to live a Catholic life in a secular world. They are there to support your teaching of the faith to your children, to discuss certain teachings/matters with if you don’t know what to tell your kids about something. They’re people you want to call when your child goes missing or ends up sick - you want them to come pray with you, offer masses for you, things like that. Your friend, because she is your friend, will always be a part of your life and your children’s lives. She’ll influence them in a variety of ways over the years, but godparents have a specific duty to influence your kids to become magesterium loyal Catholics and to help you remain strong in your faith and continue to grow.

In the worst possible scenario the godparents of the child are obliged to do whatever they can to continue the Catholic upbringing of the children. Say you and your husband are killed in an automobile accident. The kids are sent to live with relatives - non-Catholic, or perhaps Catholic in name only, or cafeteria Catholic. The godparents would need to be strong enough to establish relationships with these guardians in order to continue to be the role model of Catholic life for them. If the new family situation is not diligent about the kids getting to mass every Sunday, or attending Catholic schools or religious ed classes, of taking them to mass on holy days of obligation, etc. It is the godparents who would be attempting to fill the void on your behalf since you are no longer here to do so yourself.

So, your friend somewhere down the line did not believe in the Church enough to seek the sacrament of confirmation (this is where the grace of the spirit is given to help Catholics profess and defend the faith). Does she value the sacrament of Anointing of the Sick? Marriage? Does she accept the teachings of the Church regarding ABC, euthanasia, abortion? If she waivers on these then how are you to be assured, should you be taken up to our Lord early that your children will be protected and guided by her to follow the faith completely, especially if the kids live in a home which reject Church teachings on these matters?

If anything happened to hubby or me, our kids would go to our relatives and our relatives are either Protestant now or cafeteria Catholics. We have, over the years, always kept in touch with the godparents to discuss where we, as parents are spiritually. We share with them the moral teachings we are instilling and letting them know where our guiding source of information comes (priest’s name, parish name, people in the parish, names of their sponsors, radio stations we listen to, tv programs we watch, movies we prefer, websites we trust, etc.) Our relatives know these godparents will be active in the kids’ lives should anything happen to us.

When our family moved out of state confirmation for my kids presented a similar challenge. After 9 years of living here our circle of friends and those of my children have been 98% non-Catholic. We have no family in the area. Not only that, but in our confirmation preparation program the sponsor is required to attend 7 monthly 9am-12pm Saturday training sessions with the candidate. That alone presented a real challenge for us because the Catholics we do have as friends are busy on Saturdays with their own kids and jobs, etc., that we knew they would not be able to meet that requirement. So we had to rely on our parish to find a member of our church who would be our kids’ sponsors, and they did.

My son’s sponsor was a stranger to us at the time, though we had seen him in masses because he plays the guitar. My daughter’s sponsor was her religious ed teacher. It turns out there are no strangers in one’s parish for we are all brothers and sisters in Christ. What ended up in the end was we expanded our circle of friends to include more magesterium Catholics. These people really live their faith so they’re so easy to get along with and we can turn to them for anything. They have helped us grow as a family. As a result, I regularly put my name on the list of volunteer opportunities in the parish to be a baptismal or confirmation sponsor should another family find themselves in a similar situation as ours. Both families benefit through the Church’s insistence on this and they are truly blessed now and into the future.
 
In my parish I can guarnatee that you would be in the same class as the RCIA group. that is what I meant by RCIA going to happen. most parishes dont have saparate classes for Non confirmed baptized vs. unbaptized.What I meant to say was RICA the class not the actual rite itself.
 
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decn2b:
Remember though RCIA is definately going to happen for you.

Also remember That you need to scedule an appointment with priest. Prepare yourself for confession at this meeting with the priest. Get a good book from Catholic answers and start learning the faith. Familiarize yourself with the Catholic church especially focussing on the Churches moral teachings…especially those associated with marriage…contraception etc.

The sooner you get to confession the sooner you can get back on track with frequent communion.
At the parish I am at we are working on establishing a “Returning Catholic program” for those who need to return to the practice of the Faith. After 6 to 8 weeks of discussion and catechesis they are offered the Sacrament of Reconciliation. I would not expect Reconciliation/Confession to take place at the first meeting with the priest. RCIA can be used for Catholics who are Baptized but have not received any or very little catechesis in the Faith. Adult education is the proper place for them to receive this as well as preparation for Confirmation. However many if not most parishes have no programs like Adult Education or Adult Sacramental preparation. So they use RCIA for this as well as for what it was intended for, non-Catholics becoming Catholic or non-Christians becoming Catholic Christians.
 
Eli&Joshys_Mom:
My husband and I were not married in the catholic church. My 2 children, ages 2 1/2 yrs and 8 months have yet to be baptised. I have not been involved in church since I was in grade school, after making my first communion. I am 26 yrs old, and am pretty much starting from the beginning. I want to raise my children Catholic, and my Husband wants the same.
We started going to church about 6 weeks ago. We really want to be practicing Catholics, but don’t even know where to begin. Do we start off by going to confession? Where would we find a bible study? my husband grew up Christian, and he is asking me questions about Catholicism, and I do not have the answers.
Please help steer me in the proper direction. Thank you.
This is wonderful. Let me extend a warm Welcome home to you.

Just call the parish office or the pastor and let them know what you’ve explained here and they will get you started.

May the grace of Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you always.

Your brother in Christ.
 
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puzzleannie:
no, RCIA is not going to happen for you, unless either of you is not Catholic. If either of you has not celebrated first communion or Confirmation, you may be in class with other adults who are preparing for the Rites of Christian Initiation, but if you are already baptized you are not in RCIA.

Your unbaptized children may be placed in an RCIA class for children, called the “children’s catechumenate” depending on their age. If they are still infants you can simply take whatever pre-baptismal classes are given to parents in your parish and have them baptized. This can happen right away, even before you have convalidated your marriage. If your children are canonical adults (usually over age 7, school age) then their process is RCIA, adapted for children.
Thank you SO much!!! My words, your mouth.
 
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decn2b:
In my parish I can guarnatee that you would be in the same class as the RCIA group. that is what I meant by RCIA going to happen. most parishes dont have saparate classes for Non confirmed baptized vs. unbaptized.What I meant to say was RICA the class not the actual rite itself.
Our parish does, as do most parishes in our province, which is six counties large and includes metro Chicago.
 
Welcome home, Eli & Joshy’s Mom!!! You and your family ar eon my prayer list.
 
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decn2b:
In my parish I can guarnatee that you would be in the same class as the RCIA group. that is what I meant by RCIA going to happen. most parishes dont have saparate classes for Non confirmed baptized vs. unbaptized.What I meant to say was RICA the class not the actual rite itself.
you are quite right that this is what happens in many parishes, because often both groups need the same catechesis (teaching) so it makes sense in terms of time and resources to combine the. However it leads to just such confusion, and the distinction between the two, and the dignity and status of the baptized must always be enunciated and respected. the baptized should never receive rites reserved for catechumens.

Although the Ritual book does offer some analagous rites for the baptized non-Catholics. For instance, the catechumens have the Right of Acceptance (into the Order of Catechumens) and the candidates have the Rite of Welcoming. Those presiding should always make the distinction between the two clear to the candidates, and to the congregation. the opportunity for catechizing the congregation about RCIA in general should not be overlooked at these times.

here on these forums we must be especially careful with terminology (the topics are confusing enough without making it worse by sloppy choice of language).

OP did not state if she or her husband are fully initiated Catholics, so the only one who can answer her questions adequately is her pastor.
 
I’d say you made the first and most important step! returning to Mass!
 
It is great to hear from you! I became a Catholic when I was 20 myself.
By the way, I am surprised that the secretary in the church office tried to give pastoral direction when you came in, and obviously she didn’t have much competence when it came in the matter as she talked with you. I had some bad experiences with Catholics at the Protestant college where I became a Catholic, but I didn’t let their reactions give me any concern.
Eli&Joshys_Mom:
Thank you so much for all of yuor replies. I will get started on all of this as soon as possible. I just wanted to let you know what happened at my earlier attempt to return to church.
I was pregnant with my first child, and started returning to church. I knew it was somthing I wanted in our life. When my son was about 4 months old, I went to the church office to find out what needed to be done to have him baptized. I told the woman in the front office about having my best friend and her husband baptize my baby. She was raised catholic, was baptised and made her first communion as well. She also attended church regularly. She was not married in the catholic church though.
My friend had no problems with attending classes to be able to have my son baptized. But the lady in the offfice told me she could not do so because she was not married in the church. I just couldn’t understand why. She then said “Don’t you want whats best for you baby?” I said “of Course! I wouldn’t have picked them if I felt they wouldn’t obey my requests! She procedded to tell me I would have to f"ind someone else”. And telling me they wouldn’t be in my childs best intrests.
I do not know anyone that has fullfilled the long list of requirements that she gave me. Was I supose to just find some strangers that happen to meet them all, to have my child baptized? I was very upset/confused/hurt about everything. She took my number and told me that the priest would give me a call to discuss the matter, but he never called.
I feel like my old church denied my baby.
This is why I stopped attending for a while. But now I have been going to a new church, which my husband I really enjoy. Thank you for listening to my story.
Oh! 1 more question… Any reading reccomendations for a “newbie”. Thank you so much.
 
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