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Simply NOT true dear friendI think…I often feel like most Christians, even Catholics, are more interested in protecting ideological camps than in love for either the Lord or for their neighbor
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We have Jesus Chrisi in Person; Really; Trully and Substanually Present in every Catholic Church; at every Mass
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What is it specifically that your looking for:shrug: I am one Catholic; among many, who will address your concerens directly. Be specific and we can reply in specifics.I get the same set of pat “explanations” reiterated even after saying that those ones don’t work. I feel like most people are more tied to some christianized version of their political affiliation than anything having to do with real Christianity. All conservative christian stuff is good, all liberal stuff is atheistic and evil, type of attitude
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It’s like what I was saying with the historical forms. I think the tridentine mass is very beautiful, and there’s something quite special about having mass celebrated in the same tongue, all over the world. At the same time, I certainly don’t have any problems with the new form - in fact I think it’s for the best for it to be the primary form. But I often feel frustrated the the tridentine mass seems to have been taken over by the ultra-conservative elements. I know when I went I felt incredibly out of place - I was the only woman there by herself, and I was in a modern, somewhat fashionable skirt, top, and hairband rather than the denim/khaki skirt and mantilla of all the other women.
I deal with this all over the place. You either accept the conservative party line fully, or the liberal party line fully. Often times I feel like it has more to do with being a good democrat or republican than anything else. And it just gets in the way of asking honest questions and getting nuanced answers without getting demonized.
My friend your creating an ISSUE where their ought NOT be one.
As I have expressed and expained in a previous post: Catholic Mass is DEVINE WORSHIP and only Devine Worship; because we DO HAVE God in our midst. everything else gets close to be not at all relevant. It’s NOT about us; how we look or how we feel about each other. It’s Focused on our God:thumbsup:
I do understand that for those comming from orther faith practices where the emphasis is at least as much on the comunity; feelings and the like as it is God is a HUGE Transition to make. But it is one that needs to be made.
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Please try to Focus ON God in your YOUR Presence and let everything else be as it may.
God Bless you,
pat/PJM