Where Does Scripture State That It Is the *Sole* Rule of Faith?

[Randy_Carson]

Randy Carson

Without any examples and not able to think of any at this time I would say no.

Ralph

Here are three to consider:

1. There are to be no more Apostles.
2. Public revelation ended with the death of the last Apostle.
3. The canon of the New Testament is closed.

Do you accept any of these statements?

Are they binding upon the consciences of ALL true believers?

Where are they found in scripture?

 

[Randy_Carson]

Randy Carson

Without any examples and not able to think of any at this time I would say no.

Ralph

Here are three to consider:

1. There are to be no more Apostles.
2. Public revelation ended with the death of the last Apostle.
3. The canon of the New Testament is closed.

Do you accept any of these statements?

Are they binding upon the consciences of ALL true believers?

Where are they found in scripture?

 

[BobCatholic]

Here are three to consider:

1. There are to be no more Apostles.
2. Public revelation ended with the death of the last Apostle.
3. The canon of the New Testament is closed.

Do you accept any of these statements?

Are they binding upon the consciences of ALL true believers?

Where are they found in scripture?

1. is covered by my infamous 4 questions

 

[RalphP]

From BobCatholic:

1. There are to be no more Apostles.
2. Public revelation ended with the death of the last Apostle.
3. The canon of the New Testament is closed.

Do you accept any of these statements?

Yes

Are they binding upon the consciences of ALL true believers?

No The twelve apostles Jesus chose are special and no more but their can be Apostles today meaning ambassadors of Christ, sent out to share the faith, start churches. much like what we call missionaries, a word not found in Scripture but reflects the office of an Apostle. I believe the canon of the New Testament is probably closed, but we know there was another letter to the Corinthians and one other to the Laodicians. If they showed up wouln’t we have to add them? I think so. I doubt they would add anymore new revelation so I would say that should be binding.

Where are they found in scripture?

They are in there. Look up every reference to apostles and you will see more than the twelve and Paul are called apostles and read 1 or 2nd Corinthians and I belieive 1 or 2nd Thessalonians for a reference to the other epistles

Ralph

 

[YADA]

They are in there. Look up every reference to apostles and you will see more than the twelve and Paul are called apostles and read 1 or 2nd Corinthians and I belieive 1 or 2nd Thessalonians for a reference to the other epistles

Thats the rub; isn’t it? They are called…So yu will say that Jesus calls to us…Yes, but when Paul was called and bgan preaching…he had to travel to Jerusalem to meet with Peter and stay with him awhile…Why was this…so that those to whom he was sent would know that he was authentic and in communion with the Church. How did he get that ‘stamp’ of aprroval? from meeting with Peter and the other elders of the Church.

Today, can just anyone pick up a bible, open the doors to a ‘church’ and begin preaching an authentically true Christian message? IMHO, the answer is NO.

And yet we see this everyday. A new ‘version’ of the Christian Faith with some new idea about what this or that passage means…We now have those churches that state that baptism is not required, marriage is not required, same sex unions are okay, everybody gets to heaven, there is no hell, etc…

If they showed up wouln’t we have to add them?

Why would we add them, especially if they added nothing binding nor offered anything new to the faith? Which of course, they can not!

The New Testament writings are the faith of the new covenant church founded by Jesus upon Peter and the apostles, who were sent preach…The writings are an out growth of the believers faith written down for the believers. The Scriptures were not written as an evangelistic tool. They represent the core beliefs of the Church [that is why it is called a cannon]. It does not represent everything the faithful [ie the church] believes but the core…No new "discovery’ is going to change the core nor affect the long held practices of the christian community.

Perhaps the protestants will want to add to their bible, after all they took out from it 500 years ago…they may desire to add. For me, I take the faith that has been handed down from Jesus, entrusted by Peter [and the apostles] to their successors rightdown to today.

 

[Ani_Ibi]

…Perhaps the protestants will want to add to their bible, after all they took out from it 500 years ago…they may desire to add…

Well the Westminster Confession apparently is not a tradition so it must be part of the Bible.

 

[Randy_Carson]

No The twelve apostles Jesus chose are special and no more but their can be Apostles today meaning ambassadors of Christ, sent out to share the faith, start churches. much like what we call missionaries, a word not found in Scripture but reflects the office of an Apostle.

Jesus knocked Paul off his horse and named him an apostle. Could he do that again, and would you accept him if He did? Or do you reject the Mormon view that there are living Apostles today?

You might say, “God do it, but He won’t. There are no more apostles.” However, the Bible itself doesn’t actually teach this, does it? So, it’s okay for me to teach in my church that the office of apostle is still open? Or must I reject this?

I believe the canon of the New Testament is probably closed, but we know there was another letter to the Corinthians and one other to the Laodicians. If they showed up wouln’t we have to add them? I think so. I doubt they would add anymore new revelation so I would say that should be binding.

I think that’s a yes. Does the Bible tell you anywhere that the canon is closed? That no other books can be added to the New Testament?

They are in there. Look up every reference to apostles and you will see more than the twelve and Paul are called apostles and read 1 or 2nd Corinthians and I belieive 1 or 2nd Thessalonians for a reference to the other epistles

It sounds like you are holding beliefs that you can’t actually reference from the Bible…you think you can, but you’re not sure. I’m not trying to belittle you…the fact is that none of these three doctrines is supported explicitly or implicitly by scripture. Yet, you believe they are true.

You believe extra-biblical traditions.

You do NOT believe in the Bible Alone. :tiphat: