Where in the Bible is lesbianism prohibited?

[Montalban]

To be blunt, Oral sex would not be sex? Can you show me where in the bible it states that only intercourse is sex? I am not asking to argue because I am honestly curious now.

To the person who still believes that they could get away with this…
Jesus talked of desires (Matthew 5:28) not just sex. So, to be blunt myself, if you picture two women having oral sex with neither of them, during that time having desires for anyone outside of marriage then you might circumvent Jesus’ words.

Masturbation is also considered to be an issue dealt with in the Bible, as something not to do. Oral sex would be in many ways like mutual masturbation

 

[thistle]

I think this thread was started by someone who has no interest in any debates.

 

[M_Oliver]

Nowhere. You have to look to outside sources (for Jews, the Talmud and for Catholics, I’m sure its somewhere).

Scripture is a good source…

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, (Romans 1:24)

because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. (Romans 1:25)

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; (Romans 1:26)

**and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men **and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. (Romans 1:27)

I don’t understand how this can be such a mystery to anyone.

 

[Valke2]

Scripture is a good source…

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, (Romans 1:24)

because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. (Romans 1:25)

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; (Romans 1:26)

**and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men **and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. (Romans 1:27)

I don’t understand how this can be such a mystery to anyone.

Sorry, when I think of scripture, I’m thinking in terms of Judaism. In my bible, when Jesus is first mentioned there is a big banner that says “STOP! If You are Reading This Verse You’ve Gone Too Far!”

 

[Vigis]

I believe that it is said in Leviticus 18. God speed.

 

[M_Oliver]

Sorry, when I think of scripture, I’m thinking in terms of Judaism. In my bible, when Jesus is first mentioned there is a big banner that says “STOP! If You are Reading This Verse You’ve Gone Too Far!”

Jesus Christ is first mentioned in Genesis 1:1. I’d get another “bible” .

 

[inJESUS]

Sorry, when I think of scripture, I’m thinking in terms of Judaism. In my bible, when Jesus is first mentioned there is a big banner that says “STOP! If You are Reading This Verse You’ve Gone Too Far!”

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

 

[Valke2]

I believe that it is said in Leviticus 18. God speed.

Actually Leviticus does not. The verse that is relied on by the rabbis is 18:3, in which we are prohibited from doing what the Egyptians did. THe rabbis said lesbianism falls under this general prohibition. (Hey, they can’t all be gems).

 

[Valke2]

Jesus Christ is first mentioned in Genesis 1:1. I’d get another “bible” .

I think we’ll both enjoy this board more if we avoid getting into that discussion

 

[ricko]

Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.” They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved (CCC 2357; cf. Persona Humana 8).

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them" (Lev. 20:13).

Women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error (Rom. 1:26–27).

One should not look to scripture by reading verses as above that don’t specifically state a “women lying with a women” for approval for acts that are condemned. The statement is in regards to “mankind” which is the entire human race. Where “Men” is used it also refers to both sexes. “Amen, Amen I say to you unless a MAN be born again of water and the Holy Spirit,”

 

[Mr.Ex_Nihilo]

Hi all!

We orthodox Jews infer the ban on lesbian acts from Leviticus 18:3 since lesbian acts were not frowned upon in either ancient Egypt or ancient Canaan.

Be well!

ssv

That was an excellent insight I had never noticed before.

 

[Mr.Ex_Nihilo]

Nowhere. You have to look to outside sources (for Jews, the Talmud and for Catholics, I’m sure its somewhere).

I can’t speak for Jewish people, but as far as conservative Christianity is concerned, one passage of Christian Scripture really stands out as speaking negatively against both homosexuality and lesbianism…

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

I’m actually pretty open-minded as far as Catholics are concerned.

But even I fail to see how anyone could not see the connection between these pagan forms of worhip and their intermingling with gay and lesbian lifestyles.

In other words, I think it’s fairly clear that the Christian Scriptures, when interpretted within conservative Christian circles, portrays a very negative view of these alternative lifestyles.

 

[thistle]

Apart from the OP doing his usual hit and run (notice he hasn’t been back since starting the thread), asking specifically about lesbianism is silly.
Homosexuality covers men with men and women with women so even if he was interested in the topic the question should have been about homosexuality and homosexual activity is clearly and unambiguously forbidden in scripture.

 

[M_Oliver]

I think we’ll both enjoy this board more if we avoid getting into that discussion

Your problem, not mine

 

[M_Oliver]

Scripture is a good source…

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, (Romans 1:24)

because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. (Romans 1:25)

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; (Romans 1:26)

**and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men **and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. (Romans 1:27)

I don’t understand how this can be such a mystery to anyone.

I’ve noticed a slight deviation from Scriptural answers. Why is it common around here to enjoy personal opinions over Scripture? It is almost funny if it wasn’t so serious

 

[glimmer]

There’s nothing specific about a woman have sex with an animal, but I’m pretty sure the Jews would have read it as being covered by Leviticus 18 too

Is this biblical enough for you?

Lev 20:16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

We don’t live under the old Law, but we do see the character of God and His intent here.

 

[Denise_Shae]

I can’t speak for Jewish people, but as far as conservative Christianity is concerned, one passage of Christian Scripture really stands out as speaking negatively against both homosexuality and lesbianism…

I’m actually pretty open-minded as far as Catholics are concerned.

Thank you for that.

In other words, I think it’s fairly clear that the Christian Scriptures, when interpretted within conservative Christian circles, portrays a very negative view of these alternative lifestyles.

I agree with you.
I also think even a reasonably moderate Christian, reading this passage, would take in the full meaning of the verse without needing to actually see the word “lesbian”.
The implication is clear enough.

God Bless!

 

[Montalban]

Is this biblical enough for you?

Lev 20:16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

We don’t live under the old Law, but we do see the character of God and His intent here.

I’m on your side

 

[murtad]

To be blunt, Oral sex would not be sex?

Oral “sex” certainly is not real sex. It is an abuse of language and George Orwell told us that English language is sadly being poluted and corrupted by politicians who wish to further their hidden agenda.

There is no such thing as a same-sex “marriage” as homosexuals cannot marry! Canada was wrong to pass such a horrible law, which shows us the intellectual bankruptcy of the Paul Martin regime.

Can you show me where in the bible it states that only intercourse is sex?

Singapore penal code has two types of sex, natural sex and unnatural sex. The former is considered marriage and permitted, while the latter is a crime of homosexuality punishable by whipping.

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I am not asking to argue because I am honestly curious now.

Most problems our planet faces like high AIDS epidemic in South Africa is mainly due to anal sex, which is hardly sex and forbidden in the Bible and CCC.

 

[kellie]

While I believe that homosexuality goes against God’s natural law, and I understand why it is a sin, and why we should pray for those who are homosexual, I find your comments entirely offensive.

According to those who follow God’s laws of sexual activity, YES, gays and lesbians who actively engage in sexual activity are immoral, BUT I think it is disgusting of you to label them as wanting to destroy our planet.

Many straight people nowadays are suffering the terrible infliction of Aids due to a contaminated blood supply, or whatever, and your comment just shows the disgusting stigma that these people must live with when they say why they are dying.

I am positive 99.9% of homosexuals do not want to contract Aids, let alone pass it on to the rest of the world.

You will find many homosexuals are committed to long term relationships the same as hetrosexuals.

Your comment shows pure contempt and ignorance, and I am sorry I had to speak up and say something.

I hope you learn more about the homosexuals of our world, and pray for them, and not label them as killers ever again.