Where is "fasting" in the bible?

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A protestant friend asks, “Where does it say that we should fast in the Bible?”

I try to explain Matt 18:18 - whatever is bound… That doesn’t fly. He doesn’t fast, and see no reason to ever fast.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!
 
Well, first of all, he is a Protestant. So he’s not bound to fast.

However, even Protestants usually acknowledge that Jesus fasted and recommended fasting for spiritual warfare and for other reasons, so they should at least regard it as a laudable idea. There are many denominations now which do fast, either at times according to Catholic tradition (like Lent) or their own ideas.

The whole idea of Lent is that of fasting in imitation of Our Lord at the beginning of His ministry, which in turn imitates Moses and the Children of Israel at Sinai. If your friend wants to be a Christian without imitating Christ in the wilderness, even in a small and gentle way such as Lent usually is given to us, that’s his business but not the Church’s.

Fasting before Mass is also in imitation of Sinai – we are going to Mass to encounter the Almighty, and so we pray and fast before He comes down to us.

Fasting/abstinence on Friday is mostly a matter of penitence for Our Lord’s crucifixion and for our participation in it by our own sins; and as a small gesture of reparation for the sins of the human race.
 
1.I am horrid at quoting scripture but I do remember the story of when the 70 disciples that had been sent out by Jesus came back to him they complained that they could not cast out some of the demons and He- Jesus- told them that some need much fasting and prayer.

2.Then you have to ask your protestant friend if in his Bible does Jesus tell a young man to take up his cross and follow Jesus? John 14 v 12 and 15. Ask him what does he exactly think that Jesus means here? He OUGHT to say - to strive to be like Jesus. If not remind him that in Mat 16 v 24 Jesus says " If any man would come after me , let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me"
  1. So then you ask him what did Jesus do just after His baptism? Mathew 4 v 1,2 He went into the wilderness and fasted for 40 days and nights while he was being tempted by the devil.
 
Has he even read the Gospels? 😛 There’s all sorts of stuff about fasting in there. The previous posters have mentioned a few. Here’s another:

Matthew 9:14-15 - Then the disciples of John approached him and said, “Why do we and the Pharisees fast (much), but your disciples do not fast?” Jesus answered them, “Can the wedding guests mourn as long as the bridegroom is with them? The days will come when the bridegroom is taken away from them, and then they will fast.

A bettwer question is why don’t all Christians fast in light of the fact that Jesus said we would. 🙂
 
I think in the Book of Jonah, the king proclaimed a fast for every man, woman, child and beast in hope of easing the Lord’s wrath, and it worked.
 
Jesus talks about almsgiving, prayer and fasting in Matthew 6 as part of the Sermon on the Mount.

Almsgiving, prayer and fasting are called the “Spiritual disciplines” and they are given to us to help us against the three sins recorded in Johns first letter.

For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the pride of life, is not of the Father but is of the world. (1 John 2:16)

Almsgiving and the "Lust of the eyes"

Thus, when you give alms, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by men. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your alms may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you. (Matthew 6:2-5)

Almsgiving helps us fight against the “Lust of the eyes”, our craving for material goods. Giving to the poor and needy helps us remember that we really don’t need everything that we think we need, but should be content with food, clothing and the other necessities of life.

The next time you find yourself lusting after a new Harley Davidson motorcycle or a five hundred dollar golf club, try dropping a few hundred bucks at the homeless shelter or go buy a few bags of groceries for the family with the out of work father down the street. You’ll forget about that motorcycle real fast. 👍

Prayer and the "Pride of life"

"And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by men. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you. (Matthew 6:5-6)

Prayer is the primary means by which we remain humble and fight the “Pride of life”, the desire to be seen and the desire to be thought of highly. As a creature, constant intimate contact with our creator, in the privacy of our own hearts, keeps us aware of our proper place in creation - above the rocks and trees and animals but below the angels - so that we remain humble. That’s why Catholics kneel when we pray, instead of standing on the street corner or standing to pray in the synagogue, to help us learn humility.

Fasting and the "Lust of the Flesh"

"And when you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces that their fasting may be seen by men. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face, that your fasting may not be seen by men but by your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you." (Matthew 6:16-18)

When we deny our body that which it desires but does not need in order to live, we teach ourselves to fight our urges. We learn to rely on God, instead of immediately obeying every primitive urge. Fasting is a spiritual discipline which helps us deny ourselves and fight temptations “of the flesh”, especially sexual temptation. We learn to delay gratification for an immediatel good, and we learn that what society tells us we need is not necissarily what we really need.

The spiritual disciplines of prayer, almsgiving and fasting help us fight the three sins of the pride of life, the lust of the eyes, and the lust of the flesh. Jesus teaching about fasting is in Matthew 6.

-Tim-
 
Another that I didn’t see mentioned above (please forgive me if I simply read past it) is when the disciples could not cast out a demon…Christ admonished them for a lack of Faith, but also stated “but this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting” (Mt 17:21).

If you want TONS of Scriptural examples of fasting, go to BibleGateway.com, and type in “fasting”…(I used the New American Standard Bible in this particular case for ease of language)…you’ll get no less than 18 references to fasting.
 
Another that I didn’t see mentioned above (please forgive me if I simply read past it) is when the disciples could not cast out a demon…Christ admonished them for a lack of Faith, but also stated “but this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting” (Mt 17:21).

If you want TONS of Scriptural examples of fasting, go to BibleGateway.com, and type in “fasting”…(I used the New American Standard Bible in this particular case for ease of language)…you’ll get no less than 18 references to fasting.
There is a good RSV search engine at quod.lib.umich.edu/r/rsv/ which I use all the time. It is not the Catholic Edition but close enough and doesn’t have all the drama of a commercial website.

-Tim-
 
There is a good RSV search engine at quod.lib.umich.edu/r/rsv/ which I use all the time. It is not the Catholic Edition but close enough and doesn’t have all the drama of a commercial website.

-Tim-
Thanks! There are 21 references to it from that one! Wow…how in the world do people come up with the notion that fasting is not in the Bible…it’s not only IN it…but explicitly mentioned MANY times…even by Christ Himself. :rolleyes:
 
Thanks! There are 21 references to it from that one! Wow…how in the world do people come up with the notion that fasting is not in the Bible…it’s not only IN it…but explicitly mentioned MANY times…even by Christ Himself. :rolleyes:
He even took it for granted that people would fast, as seen in Matthew 6. He does say ‘when you fast’, not ‘if you fast’, after all.
 
This irks me, to be honest. If you are a follower of Christ Jesus, why on earth would you not do what He did as part of your spiritual life? For heaven’s sake, if HE chose to fast in the desert as preparation for the tests He would undergo, then doesn’t it makes sense that we ought to? As has been said already, Jesus said “when you fast”… not “if”. And it is all throughout the Scriptures how beneficial fasting is. Here is a link with more scriptures about fasting.
 
This irks me, to be honest. If you are a follower of Christ Jesus, why on earth would you not do what He did as part of your spiritual life? For heaven’s sake, if HE chose to fast in the desert as preparation for the tests He would undergo, then doesn’t it makes sense that we ought to? As has been said already, Jesus said “when you fast”… not “if”. And it is all throughout the Scriptures how beneficial fasting is. Here is a link with more scriptures about fasting.
My friend, in this case, was raised Catholic, but has rejected the Church. This is mostly out of an emotional, “it doesn’t seem right” kind of attitude. Since the Catholic Church prescribes fasting (all 2 days/year) - then his reaction is to pull back from it - emotionally.

Obviously, if that extended to everything the Catholic Church prescribed, then it would be absurd. So, his theology ends up being a special brew of Christianity.

I have not evangelized before - but I have started to push past my fear and shut down my ego and started approaching people about the Catholic Church. This unlucky guy gets to work with a newbie. In the future, I’ll be able to nail this topic. But, I have noticed that if a person wants to master a subject, they should teach it.

Now, I pointed my friend to “Matthew 6:16:18”, and he wrote back,
That is a good verse. I should think about that.
Now, given all of this (name removed by moderator)ut, the discussion will go much further, but please rest assured that your help is going to ripple outward from here. Thanks!!
 
This irks me, to be honest. If you are a follower of Christ Jesus, why on earth would you not do what He did as part of your spiritual life? For heaven’s sake, if HE chose to fast in the desert as preparation for the tests He would undergo, then doesn’t it makes sense that we ought to? As has been said already, Jesus said “when you fast”… not “if”. And it is all throughout the Scriptures how beneficial fasting is. Here is a link with more scriptures about fasting.
It’s good that you mention Jesus’ temptation in the desert. The three temptations which Jesus is presented with are the same three temptations John mentions in his first letter and which I touched on in my post above. .

Lust of the flesh - If you are really God, command these rocks to become bread.

Pride of life - If you are really God, throw yourself down from the pinnacle of the temple.

Lust of the eyes - I will give you all the kingdoms of the world if you bow down and worship me.

These are the same three temptations which Israel unerwent when the wandered in the desert, only Israel was not successful in fighting them.

-Tim-
 
My friend, in this case, was raised Catholic, but has rejected the Church. This is mostly out of an emotional, “it doesn’t seem right” kind of attitude. Since the Catholic Church prescribes fasting (all 2 days/year) - then his reaction is to pull back from it - emotionally.

Obviously, if that extended to everything the Catholic Church prescribed, then it would be absurd. So, his theology ends up being a special brew of Christianity.

I have not evangelized before - but I have started to push past my fear and shut down my ego and started approaching people about the Catholic Church. This unlucky guy gets to work with a newbie. In the future, I’ll be able to nail this topic. But, I have noticed that if a person wants to master a subject, they should teach it.

Now, I pointed my friend to “Matthew 6:16:18”, and he wrote back,

Now, given all of this (name removed by moderator)ut, the discussion will go much further, but please rest assured that your help is going to ripple outward from here. Thanks!!
Wait now. Paul made the mistake of going to far when he went to Athens. He spoke to the Greeks about the God who moved through all things and created all things and animated all things and they were truly interested. But then he went too far. He “pushed past” all that and started speaking about the ressurection of the dead, and the Greeks laughed at him.

My experience is that it is ours to ruin, and that we often do by going too far.

Plant the seed. Show your friend that there is one very beatiful and very true thing about Catholicism, something which leaves him saying, “You know, that’s actually pretty cool. I never thought about that.” Leave him with one thing which shows the beauty and truth in the Catholic Church. If you can, make it something which he can use daily to have a better life. Plant the seed. Then water the seed with prayer and friendship. Pray, pray, pray. God will do the rest. And become his friend so that he sees what a real Catholic is like, full of peace, and grace, and love, and without fear.

And then when the time is right, invite him to Mass.

-Tim-
 
Wait now. Paul made the mistake of going to far when he went to Athens. He spoke to the Greeks about the God who moved through all things and created all things and animated all things and they were truly interested. But then he went too far. He “pushed past” all that and started speaking about the ressurection of the dead, and the Greeks laughed at him.

My experience is that it is ours to ruin, and that we often do by going too far.
Thanks Tim. I’ll let it be at this point. Let this one issue rest in a good place.

It turns out that he’s got a bee in his bonnet about a different topic now, so I’ve found some good research material to dig into for now.

Pax!
 
When Jesus was tempted in the desert for forty days and forty nights, was he fasting during that period as well?
 
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