Where was Mary?

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Where was the Blessed Virgin Mary during the Last Supper and the trial of Jesus? Does Sacred Tradition have any answers on this issue?
 
Since the Last Supper was where Jesus institued the priesthood, Mary wouldn’t have been there.

So where was she? Don’t know.
 
Also back then I don’t think women were allowed in at trails, women were second class citizens.
 
Since the Bible or other historical source does not explicitly say, we have no way of knowing for sure. In matters such as this, we are free to speculate, provided it doesn’t go against Faith or reason.

Have you watched “The Passion of the Christ”? The movies portrayal of Mary’s activities during this time, taken from the writings of the mystics, is as good speculation as any.
 
stanmaxkolbe said:
Also back then I don’t think women were allowed in at trails, women were second class citizens.
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The whole “second class citizen” thing is a modern gloss on an ancient culture and sensibility.

Women’s place in society was considered sacred. She was not to be exposed to the filth of crimes nor the commonalities of men debating issues.

Now, I’m not saying this was always a good thing, but the sensibility wasn’t one of oppression but of protection of what was considered precious–a very different approach than modern pigeonholing of everyone into artificial “classes.”

As to where Mary was during the Last Supper, she was probably with the other women serving the men. The Bible is silent about the women during the Last Supper because everyone understood where they would be and what they would be doing. It’s much the same today. The women all gather in the kitchen while the guys gather around the TV for a football game or a bull session–things that most women could care less about. 😉
 
I kind of figured that Mary wouldn’t be in the courtroom, though I find myself speculating how she found out about his arrest and eventual cruxifiction. Maybe she was outside the building awaiting the verdict? Perhaps if I consulted a book on Biblical customs and history, I could find out how seders were conducted in the first century and that would help me with that question.
 
I think if this were a traditional seder, then Mary and the rest of the women would have been preparing the food for the meal.
 
NotWorthy said:
Since the Last Supper was where Jesus institued the priesthood, Mary wouldn’t have been there.

So where was she? Don’t know.
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Actually, that is not completely true. Sacred Tradition is silent on this subject. Tradition with a small ‘t’ allows for the presence of the Virgin Mary and the other women who were followers of Christ as women would have been a part of the Passover celebration.

Jesus instituted the EUCHARIST at the Last Supper.
 
LSK said:
Actually, that is not completely true. Sacred Tradition is silent on this subject. Tradition with a small ‘t’ allows for the presence of the Virgin Mary and the other women who were followers of Christ as women would have been a part of the Passover celebration.

Jesus instituted the EUCHARIST at the Last Supper.
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So Jesus also told the women, “Offer this up as a memorial of me”? I thought this is where the priesthood was initiated.
 
NotWorthy said:
So Jesus also told the women, “Offer this up as a memorial of me”? I thought this is where the priesthood was initiated.
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From the account of the foot-washing, we see that there were no servants or women at the Last Supper, since they were arguing over who was to do the women’s work.

Jesus Himself did the women’s work, and told them that they all must become servants to one another.
 
The Last Supper took place before Passover. Jesus seems to have had a boys’ night with the Twelve, and thus gave it some similarities to the ever-popular symposiums (male dinners/drinking parties/discussion groups) which took place anywhere Greeks had ever been. But since He knew darned well that He’d be in no position to celebrate Passover in the usual way at the usual time, He also seems to have turned dinner into a seder. And then He did the trifecta by instituting the Eucharist.

All the guys must have been very confused.

But clearly, somebody had to have cooked the food. These things don’t just materialize (well, they might have for Jesus, but we’d’ve heard about it). As usual, the church ladies were undoubtedly very busy, and Mary was probably one of them.
 
Ever been to a resturant?, the food is prepared in the kitchen then brought out to you and the server then leaves you to your meal. I believe that is similiar to what happened at the Last Supper. Mary and the other women prepared the meal, served it, then left.

At the trial?, even if she were not allowed in the “court room” with Him, she very well could have been informed of it, or even have been standing outside while the “trial” took place.

I like the question: Where IS Mary?,In Heaven of course as our Heavenly Queen.👍
 
love4mary said:
Ever been to a resturant?, the food is prepared in the kitchen then brought out to you and the server then leaves you to your meal. I believe that is similiar to what happened at the Last Supper. Mary and the other women prepared the meal, served it, then left.

At the trial?, even if she were not allowed in the “court room” with Him, she very well could have been informed of it, or even have been standing outside while the “trial” took place.

I like the question: Where IS Mary?,In Heaven of course as our Heavenly Queen.👍
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Highly likely yes.
 
Della said:
The whole “second class citizen” thing is a modern gloss on an ancient culture and sensibility.

Women’s place in society was considered sacred. She was not to be exposed to the filth of crimes nor the commonalities of men debating issues.
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Della I have to disagree. Not Mary of course but other women were forced to be temple prostitutes, forced to be married, women were treated like property.

I don’t consider that sacred I consider that second class citizens.

Sorry for going off topic.😦
 
In regards to the OP… it wasn’t absolutely essential to the Last Supper and Trial narratives to explain where everyone, including Mary, was at. A scroll is only so large, and a Gospel author has more important things to record than moment-by-moment explanation of all the character’s whereabouts. The things that were recorded were recorded for very specific purposes. That’s why we do have Mary documented at the foot of the Cross with John. Jesus had a very important message for her, John, and all of us.
 
jmcrae said:
From the account of the foot-washing, we see that there were no servants or women at the Last Supper, since they were arguing over who was to do the women’s work.

Jesus Himself did the women’s work, and told them that they all must become servants to one another.
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Now, I could be wrong but I understood that the foot washing was not a part of the passover ritual but an example of what would be done to welcome a guest into a home. I will have to research this a bit more. I also understood that the Last Supper is considered the first Mass but that the instructions throughout the New Testament regarding how the Apostles and Disciples were to preach, heal, etc were all a part of the institution of the priesthood. Anyway, I could be just confused by semantics so let me look some stuff UP before I make any kind of declaration…😉
 
LSK said:
Now, I could be wrong but I understood that the foot washing was not a part of the passover ritual but an example of what would be done to welcome a guest into a home.
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Yes. The fact that there were no servants or women present at the Last Supper is indicated by the fact that no servant or woman washed their feet when they arrived at the Last Supper - they were bickering over which of them should do this (meaning that no one of lower status than them was present at all, not even in a different room) when Jesus arrived, and did it for them.
 
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