Where would all the people go?

[QuasiCatholic]

OK yes, we can all live shoulder to shoulder in Texan tenament housing and eat oatmeal all day. But generally speaking we aspire to raise third-world people to our standard of living, not reduce ourselves to theirs.

I do not believe a first-world standard of living would be sustainable across an ever-growing global population that lives longer and longer with each generation. And to whoever said people aren’t dying en masse – modern medicine is amazing, but mother nature is doing its best to keep them busy – we’re in the middle of the worst Ebola outbreak ever, whooping cough and measles are making a comeback in a big way, and a crazy mosquito-borne disease from Africa is now in the Western Hemisphere for the first time ever. The micro-organisms always win

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

OK yes, we can all live shoulder to shoulder in Texan tenament housing and eat oatmeal all day. But generally speaking we aspire to raise third-world people to our standard of living, not reduce ourselves to theirs.

I do not believe a first-world standard of living would be sustainable across an ever-growing global population that lives longer and longer with each generation. And to whoever said people aren’t dying en masse – modern medicine is amazing, but mother nature is doing its best to keep them busy – we’re in the middle of the worst Ebola outbreak ever, whooping cough and measles are making a comeback in a big way, and a crazy mosquito-borne disease from Africa is now in the Western Hemisphere for the first time ever. The micro-organisms always win

Do you know how big the world is? I don’t think you grasp the vastness.

 

[QuasiCatholic]

Do you know how big the world is? I don’t think you grasp the vastness.

The world is very big.

But the vast majority of it is uninhabitable (oceans, deserts, arctic circle, etc.) and about half of the total land is already used for farming to support the population we have now. As the population increases, the amount of land used for farming will need to increase as well (unless we all decide to be vegetarians maybe). Not to mention the increased need for water…

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

The world is very big.

But the vast majority of it is uninhabitable (oceans, deserts, arctic circle, etc.) and about half of the total land is already used for farming to support the population we have now.

To add on HoosierDaddy’s point, do you know how far mankind has gone? Plenty of what was considered ‘uninhabitable’ or ‘unknown’ is now part of the known world.

 

[mikekle]

Another such question could be…'What if Hitler had not killed those 6 million people, what would the current population be? Think about all those people whose lives were cut short, all those people that could not continue to procreate!!! I think that is one very large number, but I dont think we would ever reach the point where it would really uncomfortable to live anywhere on the planet…the earth is a pretty HUGE place, there is alot of square footage still unused and even un-mapped.

Furthermore, I dont think population will ever really be a problem, we have people dying every day to compensate for all those being born, but thats not to say, some people in high power positions may not like the current population, I think they would prefer it be cut down about 1/3. Not sure why, but Ive read quite a few articles and op-eds about population control and many people believe in the near future, something will take place to ‘get rid’ of a large amount of people…scary to think about!!

I dont really understand the logic behind that theory though, as IMO, I assumed Govts would prefer as many people as possible working every day, paying taxes, buying things, etc., but once they get older, they become a drain on a counties revenue. This may be something the church will have to fight against here soon.

 

[QuestLove]

Furthermore, I dont think population will ever really be a problem, we have people dying every day to compensate for all those being born, but thats not to say, some people in high power positions may not like the current population, I think they would prefer it be cut down about 1/3. Not sure why, but Ive read quite a few articles and op-eds about population control and many people believe in the near future, something will take place to ‘get rid’ of a large amount of people…scary to think about!!

Those extreme methods may not be necessary in the future. Man is doing a very good job of controlling the population himself with with Terrorism and Wars. The holocaust was mentioned which exterminated over 6 million people.
Can you imagine with today’s technology what a World War III will look like?
Between Israel and Gaza (in less than two weeks) over 1500 people have died on both sides. I am not even going to try and tally the death toll going on in the other “hotspots” of the world. If any population control is going on, it is a sort of “accidental” one, where the perpetrators are more concerned with some other goal than actual population control itself.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

To add on HoosierDaddy’s point, do you know how far mankind has gone? Plenty of what was considered ‘uninhabitable’ or ‘unknown’ is now part of the known world.

Including the midwest USA which was unknown to the western world as little as 300 years ago. And corn? not even on the radar for food for the world. Now Russia has a MCdonalds. I don’t think the OP has a balanced view. Perhaps a drive through Nebraska would help…

 

[petra22]

Lol…I don’t know about that. I see lots of unmarried couples (at work etc.) who find no problems shacking up and having babies out of wedlock. It’s the lack of accountability that’s the aphrodisiac.
If that happened to me me when I was younger I would have to explain to parents, grandparents, aunties, uncles, my pastor etc. It just wouldn’t be worth it…
Stuff like that keeps you in line.

Sad thing is… it’s not just the unmarried couples, but married partners take detours and create living human beings and then don’t take responsibility for their actions. They may discard children from the marriage or discard the illegitimate children they produce with hardly a thought other than self gratification… more and more and more. Because that’s what society and TV and music and radio say is normal, right and good.

 

[petra22]

When I was a kid, dating someone did not have the expectation of recreational sex. When young women moved out on their own, if they didn’t have enough for rent they got a female friend to move in to share the rent. Not their boyfriends. Living together was frowned upon in society, and it was supported by the media. Shocking by today’s standard. I remember seeing the Dick Van **** show with Mary Tyler Moore and any bedroom scenes showed them fully clothed, not in bed, and the room had twin beds that were nicely made. Television at that time had a sensitivity to the fact that young children were watching. And they were a married couple in the show. If there was the kind of tv on that we have now, parents would have thrown the tv set out the door. My point is, there was a time not long ago that abortion was illegal and the explosion of sexually transmitted diseases and types of diseases you could catch, and babies born out of wedlock, and young women with babies abandoned by their boyfriends, were all in small numbers. I think if young people today could be beamed back in time, which wasn’t that long ago, they would be shocked at how different life was then. Girls did get pregnant, yes, but not in the numbers we see today, and girls going through pregnancy without being married was a sober reminder to young women that they take on a great risk when sexually active and not married. So abortion was illegal a few decades back and the pill and the following demand for abortion has brought all this on our heads. We’ve disconnected the fact that sex makes babies. (We live in a society now where we have government sanctioned abortion, murdering babies in the millions, but we can’t have Dick Van D8ke’s name on a forum. The insanity.) Maybe if abortion was no longer available, women would say they will not take on the risk of pregnancy and men would change their hearts not to put women in such a position. Sounds like real love to me, love that waits.

Dreaming for a more perfect time. :clapping: Me, too!