Which are the devout Muslims

[Stenella1]

Dave B - well said:thumbsup:

I have many Muslim friends and we have never had a problem. I doubt that every Muslim follows every word of the Quran, just as many Catholics don’t follow every word of the Bible. Actually the teachings in our books are not as different we would like to think. Only we seem to ignore certain parts in modern times.

For example, it says in the Bible that we aren’t supposed to eat pork because it is unclean, just as the Muslims are taught:
“Whatsoever hath the hoof divided, and cheweth the cud among the beasts, you shall eat…And the swine, which, though it divideth the hoof, cheweth not the cud. The flesh of these you shall not eat, nor shall you touch their carcasses, because they are unclean to you.”
Leviticus 11:3, 7-8

Or how many women on here properly cover their hair during Mass, as Muslim women do:
“Every man praying or prophesying with his head covered, disgraceth his head. But every woman praying or prophesying with her head not covered, disgraceth her head: for it is all one as if she were shaven.”
1 Corinthians 11:4-5

I am proud to be Catholic and found these quotes on my own during Bible study. And yet I am certain they have escaped many Catholics’ notice. So I imagine that finding a Muslim who says “death to infidels” is as likely as finding a Catholic that says “Oh I can’t eat pork, I am Catholic.”

 

[Dave_B]

…Actually the teachings in our books are not as different we would like to think. Only we seem to ignore certain parts in modern times. …

I agree, and here’s another one which Muslims like. I am not advocating Islam BTW just pointing out there are some similarities. Blessed are the peacemakers

Nehemiah 8:5 “Ezra opened the book. All the people could see him because he was standing above them; and as he opened it, the people all stood up. 6 Ezra praised the LORD, the great God; and all the people lifted their hands and responded, “Amen! Amen!” Then they bowed down and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground.”

 

[Dave_B]

…Shouldn’t you be more worried about burning in hell because of how your King, Henry VIII, created his own church in England out of rebellion to the Papacy? …

You saw my post on the other thread Maybe I will be released from purgatory for good behaviour. As they say, even knee shall bow at the name of Jesus.

 

[jakasaki]

For example, it says in the Bible that we aren’t supposed to eat pork because it is unclean, just as the Muslims are taught:
“Whatsoever hath the hoof divided, and cheweth the cud among the beasts, you shall eat…And the swine, which, though it divideth the hoof, cheweth not the cud. The flesh of these you shall not eat, nor shall you touch their carcasses, because they are unclean to you.”
Leviticus 11:3, 7-8

We Christians do live under Leviticus law - these dieatary laws were put in place for the Jews…

Jesus came with a new convenant -

Leviticus also states do not eat lizard and hare - but muslims **eat **lizard and they also eat hare…

 

[jakasaki]

Or how many women on here properly cover their hair during Mass, as Muslim women do:

“Every man praying or prophesying with his head covered, disgraceth his head. But every woman praying or prophesying with her head not covered, disgraceth her head: for it is all one as if she were shaven.”
1 Corinthians 11:4-5

Muslims don’t have “Mass”

A muslim woman wears the hijab at all times - not just in the mosque, but shopping, driving, walking and most of them also wear in their house.

I know many Catholic women who still wear their white lace hair cover when I go to the Catholic Church.

I also know many Orthodox women who wear the head scrarf in Church.

The head scrarf / hijab specifically is manditory for a muslim woman.

 

[Jaguar]

Why are you so sure what Muhammad’s will and teachings were?

**Look at the Koran. He wrote it and according to what I’ve read, he lived by it. Where did you read otherwise? **

And why are you the infallible Pope of Islam? ** I guess only because you have labeled me such??? **

Why do you get to decide what “real” Islam is? Because I’m the "Pope of Islam, or so you say! Seriously, I’m asking questions, in order to learn, and stop assuming that I am speaking infallibly! Your question is a common one, but it makes no sense. Especially if you’re a Catholic it makes no sense. Ironically this makes no sense, either.

Do you think that you’re a “bad Christian” if you don’t follow what some random non-Christian thinks the “real teaching” Of Jesus was? Of course you don’t. You don’t care–nor should you. Nor should Muslims care what you think about the “real teaching” of Muhammad. Nor should the rest of us frame our view of real, living Muslims based on your guess (because that’s all it is) about what the historical Muhammad thought. What in tarnation are you talking about?

Islam isn’t based on the “historical Muhammad,” any more than Christianity is based on the “historical Jesus.” By this I don’t mean that Muslims don’t care about what Muhammad really said and did (or that Christians don’t care about what Jesus really said and did), but that both religions rely on faith and tradition to get at the teachings and intentions of our respective founders. Me thinks you need to study more about each of them.

It needs to be emphasized, though, that most non-Muslim scholars of Islam don’t share the view of Muhammad and of Islamic history promoted by anti-Muslim polemicists. Read John Esposito, or Marshall Hodgson, or F. E. Peters.

The original (Catholic) Christian faith was founded by Jesus Christ, who taught love and forgiveness, among all other things, good. Jesus, Himself, lived His life according to the teachings of the New Testament. Jesus also wants us to follow his example. The Muslim faith was founded by a man who murdered, and raped the innocent. From what I have read, Mohammed lived his life according to the Koran, and taught his followers to do the same.

Edwin

 

[Contarini]

**Look at the Koran. He wrote it and according to what I’ve read, he lived by it. Where did you read otherwise? **

The Qur’an is a big book, written in another culture, addressing specific circumstances. What makes you so confident that you understand it perfectly? If you don’t understand it perfectly, how about listening to what Muslims say it means? How about listening to what non-Muslim scholars of Islam say it means? Why come into the discussion assuming that you already know what it means?

And why are you the infallible Pope of Islam? ** I guess only because you have labeled me such??? **

No, it’s because your initial post assumed that the “extremists” are in accord with the Qur’an and the “moderates” aren’t. You didn’t ask about this. You assumed it, and then asked rhetorically why the “extremists” were called “extremists.”
QUOTSeriously, I’m asking questions, in order to learn

Your initial post did not give that impression:

Why are Muslims that are called “Extremists”, called so, when they are doing the will of their founder, Mohammed and following the teachings of his Koran … of which he, himself lived by?

The important question is not asked but assumed (that the “extremists” are simply doing the will of Muhammad and following the Qur’an). The “question” you ask is not about the interpretation of the Qur’an but about the supposed inaccurate terminology of the media.

Your question is a common one, but it makes no sense. Especially if you’re a Catholic it makes no sense. Ironically this makes no sense, either.

As a Catholic, you should know that ancient religious texts do not have simple, obvious meanings. You should know that people are not disobeying their sacred text just because they don’t interpret it the way some simplistic fundamentalists think they should. And you should follow the Golden Rule by treating Muslims as you would like to be treated. That means that you do not assume that you know Islam better than moderate Muslims do. Your post assumed this by asserting that extremists are simply doing what the Qur’an teaches.

What in tarnation are you talking about?

Your arrogant assumption that you know which Muslims are following the teachings of the Qur’an and which aren’t. You wouldn’t stand for this from a non-Christian with regard to Christianity.

Me thinks you need to study more about each of them.

Why do you think this? What substantive disagreement do you have with what have I said?

The original (Catholic) Christian faith was founded by Jesus Christ, who taught love and forgiveness, among all other things, good. Jesus, Himself, lived His life according to the teachings of the New Testament. Jesus also wants us to follow his example. The Muslim faith was founded by a man who murdered, and raped the innocent. From what I have read, Mohammed lived his life according to the Koran, and taught his followers to do the same.

On what are you basing your opinion? Have you read a single scholarly work about Islam–by this I mean something written by a professional scholar and not just a polemicist like Robert Spencer or Andrew Bostom (note: I think Bostom has valuable things to say, and I don’t dismiss Spencer unheard; but you need to look at folks like Esposito or Hodgson or Peters to get a more balanced view)?

Neither Christianity nor Islam is simply based on following the example of the founding figure, as I said above. Certainly Catholic Christianity isn’t, nor are either of the major branches of Islam. The “Muhammad” they follow is the Muhammad of pious Islamic tradition. So even if you were right about the historical Muhammad, it wouldn’t really be relevant.

Edwin

 

[Jaguar]

Sorry, there is no mention of me understanding anything perfectly or with any confidence … believe me!

I have read this from a non-Muslim scholar, by the way:

"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

• Pope Benedict XVI (2006)

I didn’t come in to this discussion, as you say … I started it, and you really need to stop assuming that I think I am infallible. It’s embarrassing! You also need to find out what the Catholic Church means by (Papal) infallibility. Perhaps this is why you are not Catholic. Infallibility, my friend assumes nothing, as you accuse me of doing.

I continue to listen and read, what Muslims say the Koran means, as well as other so-called expert, and they don’t always agree, do they? That’s why I started the thread. I am confused. I want to hear other opinions, such as yours, theirs and others.

No, it’s because your initial post assumed that the “extremists” are in accord with the Qur’an and the “moderates” aren’t. You didn’t ask about this. You assumed it, and then asked rhetorically why the “extremists” were called “extremists.”
QUOTSeriously, I’m asking questions, in order to learn

Your initial post did not give that impression:

It didn’t! My first words of my initial post were, “I am confused”. Did that confuse you?

Here is the rest of my post along with the icon, that means “shrug” as in … “I don’t know!!!”

Why are Muslims that are called “Extremists”, called so, when they are doing the will of their founder, Mohammed and following the teachings of his Koran … of which he, himself lived by?

I realize that many Muslims called “Moderates”, are good people, but they are the one’s that do not seem to truly follow the will of founder.

Is the media trying to be politically correct, when in fact they are being inaccurate and misleading. Should have put a ? here, but it is obviously another question.

The important question is not asked but assumed (that the “extremists” are simply doing the will of Muhammad and following the Qur’an). The “question” you ask is not about the interpretation of the Qur’an but about the supposed inaccurate terminology of the media.

How can a question not be asked? Are you assuming thus accusing me of putting words in the mouths of others?

As a Catholic, you should know that ancient religious texts do not have simple, obvious meanings. You should know that people are not disobeying their sacred text just because they don’t interpret it the way some simplistic fundamentalists think they should. And you should follow the Golden Rule by treating Muslims as you would like to be treated. That means that you do not assume that you know Islam better than moderate Muslims do. Your post assumed this by asserting that extremists are simply doing what the Qur’an teaches.

There you go again, Edwin! You are assuming that I am assuming, again. I admittedly do not know very much about this. You are mis-characterizing me, here. It can also be assumed that you do not know as much as you think you do, since you are not Catholic, yet.

By the way, don’t ever assume or accuse me of not treating Muslims or anyone else, the way I want to be treated. You don’t know me, so don’t make certain judgements or dare I say … assumptions. That’s not your job.

What in tarnation are you talking about?

Your arrogant assumption that you know which Muslims are following the teachings of the Qur’an and which aren’t. You wouldn’t stand for this from a non-Christian with regard to Christianity.

I make no assumption or claim to know anything in your above statement, except maybe for the arrogant part! FYI, this icon means embarrassment, and not that I have anything against purple people, with sheepish grins.

To quote Oscar Wilde on the word … Assumption.

“When you ***ume, you make an *** out of u and me.”

Edwin

You have managed to totally misunderstand and misinterpret my opening post. You have accused me of things, even though you don’t know me from Adam. All because of your ridiculous and insensitive … assumptions. Your judgement, for this reason … I question.

I am probably wrong for fighting back like this, but no one has ever accused me of these offensive things, and I refuse to let your lack of judgement falsify what is in my heart and my true intentions.

I have not yet put all of this together, yet. I am not making judgements, I am only asking about what I have read and studied, thus far. As I always do … I will look at both sides.

So please stop assuming, what you do not know … me! You are welcome however, to continue to state your opinions, based on the questions I ask, w/o insulting me.

 

[FaithJoy]

Only one question should be asked to find out if a Muslim is extremist or not. That question is if Israel has the right to exist. If the answer is no, that person is extremist. Most Muslims think Israel should fall. That is very sad because there will never be real peace until Israel is left alone and recognized to exist. Peace be to Israel and to God’s people!

 

[elwill]

Jaguar , let us rephrase your questions again

as for me i will give you brief information about teaching of islam which made me and all moderate muslims believes that extremests asts against the teaching of islam

Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"

Fighting in the cause of GOD Almighty those who fight us is what “Jihad” is all about. I can’t go and kill a non-Muslim just because he is a non-Muslim. That is absolutely forbidden in Islam.

Allah has clearly forbidden Muslim from fighting those who fight not their faith or drive them out from their homes. Referring to this,
Allah forbids you not with regard to those who fight you not for your faith, nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them. For Allah loves those who are just. Allah only forbids you with regard to those who fight you for your faith, and drive you out of your homes and support others in driving you out, from turning to them for protection (or taking them as wali). Those who seek their protection they are indeed wrong- doers.] (Al-Mumtahinah 60: 8-9)

Islam teaches us that we should deal even with our enemies with justice and fairness. Allah says in the Qur’an
[O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah as witnesses to fair dealings and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just, that is next to piety. Fear Allah, indeed Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do.] (Al-Ma’dah 5 :8)

 

[Contarini]

"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

No, that was said by a medieval Byzantine emperor, whom the Pope was quoting without necessarily endorsing the statement, as the Pope clarified later. I think that most of what is good in Islam *was *borrowed from Judaism and Christianity, though I wouldn’t go so far as to say that Muhammad had no good ideas of his own. But then, most of Islam (both good and bad) is borrowed. . . .

I continue to listen and read, what Muslims say the Koran means, as well as other so-called expert, and they don’t always agree, do they?

The sentence that I quoted above from your initial post makes no sense, then. Because that sentence didn’t ask what the Qur’an meant. It assumed that you already knew, and it asked why, in light of this, people refer to Muslims who “follow Muhammad’s intentions” as extremists. Now if you really meant to ask an honest question, you need to restate your original post.

It didn’t! My first words of my initial post were, “I am confused”. Did that confuse you

You said you were confused as to why the media refers to militant Muslims as “extremists” when they are just following Muhammad’s intentions. At no point did you ask, “are they really following Muhammad’s intentions?” That’s what I meant by the question not being asked. That part of your post was not phrased as a question.

All I had to deal with was your post. I answered your post honestly according to the way it was worded. Now you are claiming that I should somehow have known that what was worded as a statement (taken for granted as true) was really an honest question. How am I to know that, if you don’t word it as a question?

I understand that we all express ourselves carelessly in online discussions, and we can move on to the substance. I am sorry for the tone of my response–probably you have not, as I have, seen disingenuous “questions” of this sort posted on this forum over and over and over. However, the way your post was worded did not sound like an honest question–it sounded as if you had made up your mind and were just asking a rhetorical question about the supposed dishonesty of the media.

How can a question not be asked? Are you assuming thus accusing me of putting words in the mouths of others?

Not at all. I am reading a clause introduced by the word “when” as a statement of what you take for granted as true, not as a question. If that part of your post was a question, you might have considered phrasing it as such, ending with a question mark! That helps people not misunderstand you. I apologize for jumping on you rather than taking pains to ascertain whether you were really assuming the truth of the phrase beginning with “when.” But the point stands: the phrase beginning with “when” is not only dubious, it’s close to meaningless. We have no way of knowing for sure what Muhammad’s intentions were, and if we did it wouldn’t be relevant to the use of the word “extremists” with regard to contemporary Islam.

After all, Christians who take the Sermon on the Mount literally are extremist Christians–in a much nicer way than extremist Muslims, of course. No major religion is simply based on a literal interpretation of the teachings of its founder.

In Christ,

Edwin

 

[Bezant]

Jaguar

Forgive me for being factual anal, but

You said [in bold]:

Why are you so sure what Muhammad’s will and teachings were?

Look at the Koran. He wrote it and according to what I’ve read, he lived by it. Where did you read otherwise?

The full text of the Quran was not recorded until the Period of the Rashidun, after Muhammed’s death.

 

[Bezant]

Only one question should be asked to find out if a Muslim is extremist or not. That question is if Israel has the right to exist. If the answer is no, that person is extremist.

Aside from the fact that this is totally irrelevant, where’s your evidence?

Most Muslims think Israel should fall.

…evidence?

 

[mdrummer5]

Aside from the fact that this is totally irrelevant, where’s your evidence?

…evidence?

What I find interesting about these types of threads is that the Catholics on this forum who want to make claims such as the ones you’re asking for evidence of tend to either not have it or blatantly ignore the small percentage of our members who are Muslim who tell them “no, that’s not true”. For instance elwill’s statement…

Fighting in the cause of GOD Almighty those who fight us is what “Jihad” is all about. I can’t go and kill a non-Muslim just because he is a non-Muslim. That is absolutely forbidden in Islam.

I’d bet anything that most on this forum that read that are skeptical of this statement and some I’m sure are searching for something to contradict it with.

Personally, I don’t believe in the Muslim faith and I agree that yes there are extremists but it’s a foolish assumption to say that it’s the majority when there’s no evidence to prove that. Yes there are terrorist attacks in which Muslims say they are doing the will of Allah but does that make them the majority? No… this isn’t just an issue of prejudice it’s an issue of logic. There’s a certain “Christian” group known as “God Hates Fags” and while most Christians agree that homosexuality is a sin would it be correct to say that most believe this? I’m guessing not.

On the other hand Catholics are very quick to get upset when someone points out flaws in what they THINK Catholics believe. The Dan Brown books come to mind. Simple works of fiction… the problem is that there are people who don’t know any better that took parts of them as “the gospel”. The Catholics who became overtly offended by the books only made this issue worse.

I guess what I’m saying is… practice the golden rule… as Catholics (not soon enough to be Catholic in my case) we would much rather someone who doesn’t practice our faith to ask us about it rather than to make assertions based on what they think they know of it… perhaps we should offer the same courtesy to Muslims. So, rather than saying “All Muslims believe X” why not present it as something you heard/read and ask for clarification on FROM A MUSLIM?

 

[Bezant]

What I find interesting about these types of threads is that the Catholics on this forum who want to make claims such as the ones you’re asking for evidence of tend to either not have it or blatantly ignore the small percentage of our members who are Muslim who tell them “no, that’s not true”. For instance elwill’s statement…

I agree. Posters also get rather interesting when non-Muslims who’ve actually studied Islam and the Quran contradict them.

Sometimes I receive very childish accusations, that I’m an apologist for the Mooslims, when logically I should agree with their nonsense because I’m Christian, or that my faith is “obviously” deficient or unorthodox.

Or, they think that pulling Quranic or hadith quotations from google or an anti-Islamic site/poor translation will stand as sufficient evidence.

Or, they insist that “I should go study Islam and see for yourself.” I know quite a bit about Islamic history, theology and law.

I’d bet anything that most on this forum that read that are skeptical of this statement and some I’m sure are searching for something to contradict it with.

For this specific statement, yes; for less radical but nevertheless other ignorant statements, I’m not so confident.

Personally, I don’t believe in the Muslim faith and I agree that yes there are extremists but it’s a foolish assumption to say that it’s the majority when there’s no evidence to prove that. Yes there are terrorist attacks in which Muslims say they are doing the will of Allah but does that make them the majority? No… this isn’t just an issue of prejudice it’s an issue of logic. There’s a certain “Christian” group known as “God Hates Fags” and while most Christians agree that homosexuality is a sin would it be correct to say that most believe this? I’m guessing not.

Now what you’re asking for is reason. Isn’t that begging a little too much?

On the other hand Catholics are very quick to get upset when someone points out flaws in what they THINK Catholics believe. The Dan Brown books come to mind. Simple works of fiction… the problem is that there are people who don’t know any better that took parts of them as “the gospel”. The Catholics who became overtly offended by the books only made this issue worse.

Well, I might not use that comparison, and it sounds like you’re contradicting yourself: Catholics shouldn’t be offended when non-Catholics assert what they wrongly assume Catholics believe, but we should practise the Golden Rule and not offend non-Catholic faiths by making wrongful assumptions?

I guess what I’m saying is… practice the golden rule… as Catholics (not soon enough to be Catholic in my case) we would much rather someone who doesn’t practice our faith to ask us about it rather than to make assertions based on what they think they know of it… perhaps we should offer the same courtesy to Muslims. So, rather than saying “All Muslims believe X” why not present it as something you heard/read and ask for clarification on FROM A MUSLIM?

Now, I would actually disagree a little. I have no problem with anti-Catholic or anti-Islamic criticism in and of itself – they’re ideas, and they’re open to debate from the outside. This debate can be done respectfully.

What I have a problem with, however, is the ignorant criticism you mention, or disrespectful debate.

If someone doesn’t know what he’s talking about, or lacks tact, he should shut up.

Also, I agree it’s good to ask from Muslims, but an explanation from a Muslim may not be a sufficient answer; you have to take into consideration his education, affiliation, etc.

By the way, I wish you the best in your conversion process.

 

[mdrummer5]

Well, I might not use that comparison, and it sounds like you’re contradicting yourself: Catholics shouldn’t be offended when non-Catholics assert what they wrongly assume Catholics believe, but we should practise the Golden Rule and not offend non-Catholic faiths by making wrongful assumptions?

Not quite what I meant… I didn’t mean to have it sound contradictory but to point out the contradiction.

Some Catholics are offended by non-Catholic assertions… but make similar assertions about non-Catholic faiths.

My statement about the Catholics who are overtly offended making it worse is a bit off topic and is almost an entirely separate issue… I was referring to the idea that when someone is accused of something and immediately gets defensive it usually only solidifies the “accuser’s” point at least in their own thinking.

Now, I would actually disagree a little. I have no problem with anti-Catholic or anti-Islamic criticism in and of itself – they’re ideas, and they’re open to debate from the outside. This debate can be done respectfully.

Now who’s asking for too much?

Also, I agree it’s good to ask from Muslims, but an explanation from a Muslim may not be a sufficient answer; you have to take into consideration his education, affiliation, etc.

Very good point… I guess it would be equally as foolish to assume that a Muslim (or anyone for that matter) is well educated in their own beliefs.

By the way, I wish you the best in your conversion process.

Thanks

 

[Jaguar]

No, that was said by a medieval Byzantine emperor, whom the Pope was quoting without necessarily endorsing the statement, as the Pope clarified later. I think that most of what is good in Islam *was *borrowed from Judaism and Christianity, though I wouldn’t go so far as to say that Muhammad had no good ideas of his own. But then, most of Islam (both good and bad) is borrowed. . . .
**
I didn’t say that the Pope coined the phrase, but he did say this, no? You assume that he did not endorse this quote, however, I, along with most folks, incl. most Muslims, assume that he did.

They then responded to his statement by murdering a nun, burning church’s, among other things. — They then demanded an apology. Did the Holy Father give one?

Please comment on these links. We are all familiar with the sources.

newadvent.org/cathen/10424a.htm**
catholic.com/thisrock/2003/0305clas.asp
catholic.com/library/endless_jihad.asp

Don’t assume I am not willing to hear the other side. That’s why I am here. Please send me articles (links) that tell the flip side of the story.

Finally, I realize my 1st post was a sloppy one. I wrote it directly after speaking with someone else (friend) that pretty much posed to me, the same Q’s and statements as my1st post.

I accept your apology. Please except mine.

The sentence that I quoted above from your initial post makes no sense, then. Because that sentence didn’t ask what the Qur’an meant. It assumed that you already knew, and it asked why, in light of this, people refer to Muslims who “follow Muhammad’s intentions” as extremists. Now if you really meant to ask an honest question, you need to restate your original post.
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I have gathered a few verses, but as you know there are many more seemingly full of hate and violence. How are these verses to be taken?

• I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers. Quran 8:12
  -Fight for the sake of God those that fight against you, but do not attack them first. God does not love the aggressors.
  Slay them wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you. Idolatry is worse than carnage. Quran 2:190-2:191
  -When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. Quran 9:5
  -Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate. Quran 9:73
• There shall be no compulsion in religion. Quran 2:236;
  for him a mighty scourge. Quran 4:92-93
  -Had the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] accepted the Faith, it would surely have been better for them. Some are true believers, but most are evil-doers. Quran 3:110-111
  -Let not believers make friends with infidels in preference to the faithful - he that does this has nothing to hope for from Good - except in self-defense. God admonishes you to fear Him: for to God shall all return. Quran 3:28
  -God’s curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God’s own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God’s most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers. Quran 2:89-2:90
  -Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous. Quran 9:123
  -Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed with rods of iron.
  Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: “Taste the torment of the Conflagration!” Quran 22:19-20
  -Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Quran 48:2
  -Those that deny Our revelations We will burn in fire. No sooner will their skins be consumed than We shall give them other skins, so that they may truly taste the scourge. God is mighty and wise. Quran 4:56
  **