Which "body" is the Eucharist?

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Is the Eucharist Christ’s glorified body or the body they took down from the cross? I thought he “bled out” on the cross and would thus have no blood in His glorified body. And at the last supper, was it His glorified body or His pre-glorified body He shared with His disciples? I know we are present at Calvary during Mass, but at Calvary His body was not glorified. So, can someone help me sort this out? Thanks.
 
Is the Eucharist Christ’s glorified body or the body they took down from the cross? I thought he “bled out” on the cross and would thus have no blood in His glorified body. And at the last supper, was it His glorified body or His pre-glorified body He shared with His disciples? I know we are present at Calvary during Mass, but at Calvary His body was not glorified. So, can someone help me sort this out? Thanks.
The Body we receive is not HIS dead body nor HIS natural human body, but HIS Resurrectional body. We know this because it contains HIS supernatural life (which is why it builds up our own), while a dead body holds no life at all; and a natural body, only natural human life which we already possess.

Even in a death by bleeding, all the blood does not leave the body. Our LORD would still have had blood when HE awakened from death.

God Bless and ICXC NIKA.
 
The Body we receive is not HIS dead body nor HIS natural human body, but HIS Resurrectional body. We know this because it contains HIS supernatural life (which is why it builds up our own), while a dead body holds no life at all; and a natural body, only natural human life which we already possess.

Even in a death by bleeding, all the blood does not leave the body. Our LORD would still have had blood when HE awakened from death.

God Bless and ICXC NIKA.
Whether all the blood drained out or not, a resurrected body is altogether restored. But we can expect that in an immortal body, things like hair, the private parts, and other organs will have a different function, and so probably will blood. Scripture says, “the life is in the blood”, and in another place it says that Jesus “was made a life-giving spirit”; therefore the blood we receive in communion is blood, but with a life giving, rather than life sustaining, function, or something like that. I haven’t done many experiments on resurrected bodies, so I can only make educated guesses.
 
I’m kinda wondering where you got the idea that Christ “bled out” on the Cross.

I’m also wondering why you’re asking. Unless you are thinking that if it is His pre-glorified body that we would be less blessed somehow?

Christ being the Son of God, God incarnate while He lived was always God. (I say, “while He lived”, only because it is not His dead body that we receive.)

We always receive His living body. Because the Jews believed that “the life is in the blood” and we receive both His body and blood in each of the species at the Eucharist, it is His Living Body that we are receiving.

So are you thinking that it matters whether it was glorified or pre-glorified and why does it matter to you?

I agree with the others that commented though. It would have been the glorified body.
 
I’m kinda wondering where you got the idea that Christ “bled out” on the Cross.

I’m also wondering why you’re asking. Unless you are thinking that if it is His pre-glorified body that we would be less blessed somehow?

Christ being the Son of God, God incarnate while He lived was always God. (I say, “while He lived”, only because it is not His dead body that we receive.)

We always receive His living body. Because the Jews believed that “the life is in the blood” and we receive both His body and blood in each of the species at the Eucharist, it is His Living Body that we are receiving.

So are you thinking that it matters whether it was glorified or pre-glorified and why does it matter to you?

I agree with the others that commented though. It would have been the glorified body.
I’d say it mattered, as does a very knowledgeable priest in my town whom I asked this question. The reason being that our LORD’s natural Human Body held only natural life, which cannot be transferred from person to person, and which each of us has already. Because HE held only natural life, HE was able to die.

But HIS Resurrectional BODY holds Heavenly life, which makes HIM “death-proof” in Eternity; and which HE can give to every"body".

ICXC NIKA
 
The Body we receive is not HIS dead body nor HIS natural human body, but HIS Resurrectional body. We know this because it contains HIS supernatural life (which is why it builds up our own), while a dead body holds no life at all; and a natural body, only natural human life which we already possess.

Even in a death by bleeding, all the blood does not leave the body. Our LORD would still have had blood when HE awakened from death.

God Bless and ICXC NIKA.
Thank you. I’m still trying to wrap my brain around the idea that we are “made present at Calvary.” I imagine myself being at the cross when I hear that, as if we are in a “time machine,” and He has not yet died or been glorified. It is this point, more than bloodloss, that I am stuck on.
 
Whether all the blood drained out or not, a resurrected body is altogether restored. But we can expect that in an immortal body, things like hair, the private parts, and other organs will have a different function, and so probably will blood. Scripture says, “the life is in the blood”, and in another place it says that Jesus “was made a life-giving spirit”; therefore the blood we receive in communion is blood, but with a life giving, rather than life sustaining, function, or something like that. I haven’t done many experiments on resurrected bodies, so I can only make educated guesses.
🙂 Thank you.
 
I’m kinda wondering where you got the idea that Christ “bled out” on the Cross.
I’m not sure. 🤷
I’m also wondering why you’re asking.
To clarify, learn, dispel my misconceptions, increase my apologetic abilities, and anticipate questions from non-believers when I dialogue with them.
Christ being the Son of God, God incarnate while He lived was always God. (I say, “while He lived”, only because it is not His dead body that we receive.)

We always receive His living body. Because the Jews believed that “the life is in the blood” and we receive both His body and blood in each of the species at the Eucharist, it is His Living Body that we are receiving.

So are you thinking that it matters whether it was glorified or pre-glorified and why does it matter to you?
I’m stuck on the idea that we are “made present at Calvary” since I imagine being “at the cross” in a sort of time machine before His glorification.
 
I’m kinda wondering where you got the idea that Christ “bled out” on the Cross.

I’m also wondering why you’re asking. Unless you are thinking that if it is His pre-glorified body that we would be less blessed somehow?

Christ being the Son of God, God incarnate while He lived was always God. (I say, “while He lived”, only because it is not His dead body that we receive.)

We always receive His living body. Because the Jews believed that “the life is in the blood” and we receive both His body and blood in each of the species at the Eucharist, it is His Living Body that we are receiving.

So are you thinking that it matters whether it was glorified or pre-glorified and why does it matter to you?

I agree with the others that commented though. It would have been the glorified body.
This is just a guess here, but I think the “bled out” idea comes from the account of Christ’s passion where it says something about water coming out of his lance wound instead of blood… I have heard priests say that this meant that He gave EVERY ounce of his blood for us… not sure what the official CC teaching is though.
 
This is just a guess here, but I think the “bled out” idea comes from the account of Christ’s passion where it says something about water coming out of his lance wound instead of blood… I have heard priests say that this meant that He gave EVERY ounce of his blood for us… not sure what the official CC teaching is though.
Yes, that sounds like something I was told (by who I do not know).
 
What I figured out is that Good Friday through Sunday is made present at Mass. I was not taking that into account. I was focused on Calvary (i.e. Good Friday).
 
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC);

"**Yet our participation in the Eucharist already gives us a foretaste of Christ’s transfiguration of our bodies:
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Just as bread that comes from the earth, after God's blessing has been invoked upon it, is no longer ordinary bread, but Eucharist, formed of two things, the one earthly and the other heavenly: so too our bodies, which partake of the Eucharist, are no longer corruptible, but possess the hope of resurrection.**" (CCC 1000)
Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

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This is just a guess here, but I think the “bled out” idea comes from the account of Christ’s passion where it says something about water coming out of his lance wound instead of blood… I have heard priests say that this meant that He gave EVERY ounce of his blood for us… not sure what the official CC teaching is though.
I don’t believe that there is an official Church Teaching on this.

The scriptures state that blood and water came out of the wound.
 
Whether all the blood drained out or not, a resurrected body is altogether restored. But we can expect that in an immortal body, things like hair, the private parts, and other organs will have a different function, and so probably will blood.
Body hair actually has a very noble use in our natural bodies: it amplifies our sense of touch by stretching adjacent nerve receptors in our skin, so that we can perceive touch sensations that do not quite, or only weakly touch the skin. In our Spiritual Bodies, no doubt this function will be preserved and strengthened, so that we can fully experience the fullness of our LORD’s touch and embrace.

Head hair is slightly different, in that we care much more about it than about body hair, even though we don’t do much touching with our heads. But those of us who have lost our upper follicles long before the rest of our skin, will have them fully restored in Heaven. And no doubt the hair of our head will have an awesome glorified function (filaments for our halo maybe?:))

ICXC NIKA
 
I don’t believe that there is an official Church Teaching on this.

The scriptures state that blood and water came out of the wound.
That simply means that HE died. Blood separates after death, forming a red cellular phase and a clear aqueous phase. The heavier cellular phase would settle in the lower parts of the body. Someone said once, “If you ever cut your skin and blood and water come out, you are in bad trouble, because you’ve been dead at least an hour.”🤷

So our LORD had definitely given up the ghost when this happened. It disproves the idea that HE only blacked out and awakened later on. But it doesn’t mean all the blood left HIS body. In fact, there would still be blood in HIS legs and lower abdomen when the lancing happened.

ICXC NIKA
 
In my opinion, that’s a more complex question than it seems. One might ask, which “body” did you present to the world today, or yesterday, or ten years from today? Materially, they are not identical, as the cellular and material components of your body are constantly being replaced. Yet it is still “you,” whether at one year old or sixty years old. Your body can actually be viewed as a four-dimensional entity bounded by both its skin and its timeline. Perhaps we receive Jesus’ entire 4D body, now resurrected in heaven, but that’s a mere theological opinion.
 
The part of the OP’s question were they asked if during the Lord’s Supper were they eating his pre-glorified or glorified body…am I right in saying that they were eating his glorified body right then…?
 
In my opinion, that’s a more complex question than it seems. One might ask, which “body” did you present to the world today, or yesterday, or ten years from today? Materially, they are not identical, as the cellular and material components of your body are constantly being replaced. Yet it is still “you,” whether at one year old or sixty years old. Your body can actually be viewed as a four-dimensional entity bounded by both its skin and its timeline. Perhaps we receive Jesus’ entire 4D body, now resurrected in heaven, but that’s a mere theological opinion.
Now that’s an interesting perspective. :hmmm: Very thought provoking.
 
And at the last supper, was it His glorified body or His pre-glorified body He shared with His disciples? I know we are present at Calvary during Mass, but at Calvary His body was not glorified. So, can someone help me sort this out? Thanks.
That is an interesting question. I was looking forward to some of the answers on it, but I haven’t seen anyone respond to this particular one yet.
 
If I remember rightly, I believe that Thomas Aquinas thought that the body we received corresponded to Jesus’ actual body at the time. In other words, at the Last Supper, the Apostles received his pre-crucified, pre-glorified body. After the resurrection, those who received the Eucharist received his glorified body.

But, as much as I love Aquinas, that’s also a theological opinion, and one wouldn’t have expected Aquinas to consider the body as a 4-dimensional reality bounded by both space and time.
 
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