Actually, what I meant about staying positive was that I would not respond to your polemical tactics in a like manner.
Do you not think that there was much in PR’s posts that indeed reflect the grace St. Paul preached? As a Lutheran, I do.
You’re kind, Ben, but I’m regularly reminded in my actions of “Chief of Sinners, though I be”, by William McComb.
Awww, thanks, brother.
The Catholic Church does.
Can you cite a document that states that the Church calls people a heretic for preaching the grace that Paul preached?
I’m not sure this is true that he said this, but even if it is, that’s not the same thing as the Church calling people heretics for preaching grace that Paul preached.
I see your point, and a really good point as well. :thumbsup
erhaps this is why Jesus established His church and corresponding church leadership, beginning with the apostles) and promised to send the Holy Spirit to guide His church into all truth (as opposed to partial truth) until the end of time? Your thoughts friend.
Hey, I’m glad you got my point! But I don’t quite see where Jesus limited the truth to church officials. He said"you shall know the truth (Jesus) and the truth(Jesus) will make you free"I see your point, and a really good point as well. :thumbsup
Are all Christians able to interpret scripture accurately the same as you?
Well, OK Randy, I think not, but maybe they should know enough to sense a false gospel. Paul said to young Timothy “from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation”. Knowing the truth as in v.32 presupposes being diligent in the word as in v.31. That is the only way to know the Shepherd’s voice with assurance.
Paul was referring to the Scriptures which Timothy had known since childhood: the Old Testament. Not the New.
it sounds like you are the one, once you have sifted His message, that is in charge of deciding what is truth and what is not regarding the teachings of Jesus - correct?
Yes, I see and know the problem. It has existed since St. Paul established his first church, but I don’t think that nullifies Jesus’ promise because of our problem.
Some Catholics believe in Limbo for infants, some in Hell, some say they go to Heaven. I assume this isn’t a problem for you though?
No, there has always been one true Church, and there have always been wannabees. And despite all the various interpretations of Scripture that has led to the formation of many, many denominations teaching conflicting and contradictory doctrines, that Church which began calling itself “Catholic” before the end of the first century teaches one consistent doctrine for almost 2,000 years.
Since this doctrine has never been formally defined, no.
Sure Joe, I think most any evangelical would offer you 2Ti. 2:2 . That’s always been a foundational scripture.it sounds like you are the one, once you have sifted His message, that is in charge of deciding what is truth and what is not regarding the teachings of Jesus - correct?
How does God preserve truth, within Christendom in light of the obvious fact that everyone within different ecclesial communities, is teaching something different regarding many things? Please be specific, if you don’t mind?
Do not even Protestants do the same?
If you are the one, once you have sifted His message, that is in charge of deciding what is truth and what is not regarding the teachings of Jesus, and this is the traditional mode within the Evangelical sphere, what happens when you guys disagree i.e. reach an impasse regarding doctrinal truth? Who or what settles or resolves these doctrinal differences when scripture clearly fails?