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MartyrForJesus
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I thought it was the Council of Carthage, but I found out that was not an ecumenical council. If the Canon was decided at a non-ecumenical council, does that mean not everyone had to accept it?
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MartyrForJesus
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It seems that no ecumenical council declared the Biblical Canon until the Council of Trent???
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Spencerian
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A Catholic Answers tract summarizes the timeline and sources of the biblical canon of the Old Testament and its ratification by the Church over the years.
You may also find this timeline from a third-party site helpful to note when the Biblical canon was canonized as a whole.
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MarcoPolo
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The Council of Florence, an ecumenical council, listed the Catholic canon long before the “Reformation” that challenged the canon. (Florence, session 11, Feb. 4, 1442) That being said, the Church traditionally and fairly can be said to have recognized the “Catholic canon” since the era of Pope Damasus and the synod of Rome (ca 382) right around the era of Carthage and Hippo as well (there are some links to those councils’ lists here). The books identified as Scripture at that time exhibited continuity in the Traditional voice of the Church. To remove any doubt, ecumenical councils like Florence and especially Trent merely recognized and certified the Magisterial voice that had long already spoken through the Church.
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ajcstr
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This is probably technically true but there are several synods/councils before that that listed the biblical books (Hippo, Carthage, Rome). Trent was the first ECUMENICAL council, but it was just reaffirming what the western Church had practiced since the late 300’s.
My argument is always what books were in the Vulgate? That was THE Catholic Bible for 1,000 years
OOOPS - just read the post before this - don’t know too much about Florence so that may have been the first.
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Pwrlftr
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I believe the Vulgate was sent out with Jerome’s prefaces to the deutero’s which clearly placed them outside the pale of canonical scripture.
There is a pretty good article at www.newadvent.org that covers this under the canon of the OT.
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inkaneer
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You have to be careful with the Council of Florence because not all of that council is considered to be a general council. This council was called to deal with the East West Schism and many of its cannons were directed to individual Eastern Churches and not to the universal church. The portion of the council that dealt with the canon was a bull [a letter] from the pope to one of the eastern churches. For that reason it was not and is not accepted as being the formal definition of the canon. That would later occur at Trent when the matter was taken up specifically for formal definition for the entire church. None the less the canon enumerated at Florence was identical to that of Trent as well as Hippo, Carthage, Rome and the Vulgate.The Council of Florence, an ecumenical council, listed the Catholic canon long before the “Reformation” that challenged the canon. (Florence, session 11, Feb. 4, 1442) That being said, the Church traditionally and fairly can be said to have recognized the “Catholic canon” since the era of Pope Damasus and the synod of Rome (ca 382) right around the era of Carthage and Hippo as well (there are some links to those councils’ lists here). The books identified as Scripture at that time exhibited continuity in the Traditional voice of the Church. To remove any doubt, ecumenical councils like Florence and especially Trent merely recognized and certified the Magisterial voice that had long already spoken through the Church.
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