Which is worse?

[Rico_S]

First quesion, Which sin is more grave:

1. Limiting the number of children you have for selfish reasons.
2. Using artificial birth control. (assume non abortifacient).

And, perhaps even more importantly, which is the bigger problem for the Catholic Church today?

–Rico

 

[bilop]

First quesion, Which sin is more grave:

1. Limiting the number of children you have for selfish reasons.
2. Using artificial birth control. (assume non abortifacient).

And, perhaps even more importantly, which is the bigger problem for the Catholic Church today?

–Rico

Aren’t they one in the same? I would assume most Catholics who are using artificial birth control aren’t financially or medically unable to handle more children, they just don’t want anymore.

I would guess most people using NFP are pretty serious Catholics, and much more likely to only limit children for serious reasons.

Artificial contraception is the biggest danger facing the Western world today. The West has decided to contracept and abort itself out of existence, and in Europe (Islam is waiting to fill the vacuum).

God Bless

 

[newbetx]

First quesion, Which sin is more grave:

1. Limiting the number of children you have for selfish reasons.
2. Using artificial birth control. (assume non abortifacient).

And, perhaps even more importantly, which is the bigger problem for the Catholic Church today?

–Rico

#3. Ignorance of the teaching

gets my vote.

 

[TotallyConfused]

First quesion, Which sin is more grave:

1. Limiting the number of children you have for selfish reasons.
2. Using artificial birth control. (assume non abortifacient).

And, perhaps even more importantly, which is the bigger problem for the Catholic Church today?

–Rico

Hey there.
First, I’ll assume that in Point #1, they are using NFP for selfish reasons, right?
I think that people are miss-informed on #1 and they use it with a much clearer conscience…even though it’s incorrect according to the Church.

But the percentage of Catholics using ABc - abortive or no, points me to the conclusion that, as far as breaking written rules of the Church go, #2 is the one that’s been transgressed upon the most.

 

[teachccd]

First quesion, Which sin is more grave:

1. Limiting the number of children you have for selfish reasons.
2. Using artificial birth control. (assume non abortifacient).

And, perhaps even more importantly, which is the bigger problem for the Catholic Church today?

–Rico

Both are selfish and are equal in being a problem for the Catholic Church today.

 

[Jude_Smith]

Since both are wrong, why are we pondering which is worse? No doubt there are people who use NFP in excess, especially in cases where they resort to other (non-procreative) forms of sexual contact during fertile times.
However, since ABC is always wrong, I would say it is worse. In the previous case, people could be inadequately informed and/or uncertain of their motives.
If they’re trying to fool God about their motives, though, I see little to choose between the two sins.

 

[DustinM]

Well, don’t they go together often enough that we need to consider both at the same time?
(Many couples use ABC to selfishly limit their number of children.)

If someone is using NFP to limit children, whether or not they are even being selfish in the first place is harder to determine. (There may be some unknown non-obvious private issues.) However, ABC seems to be more selfishly geared “every” time. (I should admit/note that: Many people who use ABC don’t do it for selfish reasons, and are actually just non-willfully ignorant, which is bad but not sinful.)

All in all ABC is worse overall from abortifacient mechanisms alone.

 

[newbetx]

Which brings up a point…

There seems to be a pervasive concept that NFP users are just as big of sinners as ABC’ers. And I don’t think that is the case.

Using NFP to avoid involves sacrafice of self. This is inhierently good. The biggest issue with ABC isn’t whether one is TRYING to conceive or not as it is the lack of sacrafice it entails. I’m getting the idea that questioning ANYONE using NFP is just the devil trying to cheapen the marrital act. For centuries, mutually agreed to abstinence was not considered a sin. And as far as I know, officially, it isn’t considered one today. Seems like the logic is twisted. Twisted logic comes from where?

Now I mean not to judge the OP here. Many are not seeing the bigger picture that NFP is not “Catholic Contraception.” When viewed narrowly, it easily appears that way. I know I used to think that.