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I am glad that incident and those people didn’t successfully ‘murder’ you 😁
I would just argue with them that murdering is the 5th commandment, whereas yhe porn thing is the 6th.
 
I think murder because you may lead someone astray, but so long as they have life, God can continue working to bring them back. Murder just pretty much ends the person’s shot at life. Especially if the victim was not in thebGrace of God. Then the future of their souls becomes unknown. You may have ended their physical life and possibly their shot at eternal happiness.
 
Your questions are not very clear but from their gist, both are sins but I would say the second is worse.

Temptations to sin are sure to come, but woe to the one through whom they come! (Lk17:1).
 
they can murder you without your consent and do so irreversibly.
However, we should live every day as if it is our last on earth. We should be ready at all times to meet God and to enter eternal life, we live in friendship with God! Death is swallowed up in victory!
 
True. But that is why I said that murder would generally be worse. What if you murder somebody who is not in a state of grace? Besides it is hard to lead somebody away from the church without their consent.
 
Besides it is hard to lead somebody away from the church without their consent.
As Scripture says in James chapter one "each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.Then desire conceives and brings forth sin, and when sin reaches maturity it gives birth to death."
 
Wait, I was wrong. Jesus has talked about this before, right?
Mark 9, 42.
 
is there a different hell for those who die with “not as bad” mortal sins from the ones with the "really bad " ones?
 
Prolly different levels of punishment. I’ve a really hard time believing that someone who had premarital sex with their SO is getting the same treatment as someone who committed genocide.
 
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I believe the levels of punishment concept is fiction from Dante’s Inferno
 
Mortal Sin is Mortal Sin and Hell is Hell.
That contradicts what the CCC says:
  1. Grave matter is specified by the Ten Commandments, corresponding to the answer of Jesus to the rich young man: “Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and your mother.” The gravity of sins is more or less great: murder is graver than theft. One must also take into account who is wronged: violence against parents is in itself graver than violence against a stranger.
 
None of this says anything about different punishments in Hell for the graver sins.
 
Okay your right there is a nicer version of Hell for those who die with the “less grave” mortal sins on their souls.
 
Well, if Dante is to be believed there are levels to this…

(Seriously, is there a Catholic dogma regarding ‘different’ punishments for the ‘less grave’ sins? If there is, I haven’t seen it yet)
 
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From the Section on Hell in The Catechism of The Catholic Church
No mention of demons with pitchforks poking your behind or any other of the “levels” of punishment depicted in Dante’s work of fiction.

CCC # 1023 To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God’s merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called “hell.”

CCC # 1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire."617 The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.

CCC # 1036 The affirmations of Sacred Scripture and the teachings of the Church on the subject of hell are a call to the responsibility incumbent upon man to make use of his freedom in view of his eternal destiny. They are at the same time an urgent call to conversion: “Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few.”

Since we know neither the day nor the hour, we should follow the advice of the Lord and watch constantly so that, when the single course of our earthly life is completed, we may merit to enter with him into the marriage feast and be numbered among the blessed, and not, like the wicked and slothful servants, be ordered to depart into the eternal fire, into the outer darkness where “men will weep and gnash their teeth.”
 
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