Which Jewish or Protestant person would have reached Blessed or Sainthood

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Cheshangle said:
Dorothy L Sayers is interesting. I’d thought of her simply as a detective novel writer, but having looked her up, yes, she was a devout Christian (Anglican) too.

TS Elot was a very spiritual man, and I’ve met various RCs who are as impressed with him as I am.

About two years ago there was a programme about him on the BBC and he was referred to as “catholic” throughout (which arguably he was). When I said that it might have been a good idea to mention that he was CofE, I was fobbed off with a specious reply.
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Sayers translation of The Divine Comedy is one of the best, and the notes she includes are very insightful and make a lot of what would be obscure meaningful for a modern reader. Unfortunately she died before she completed the Paradisio, but it is well worth looking at.

That’s funny about the BBC - I wouldn’t have thought of them caring much one way or the other about Catholicism. Maybe they just lump Christians together.
 
Bluegoat said:
Sayers translation of The Divine Comedy is one of the best, and the notes she includes are very insightful and make a lot of what would be obscure meaningful for a modern reader. Unfortunately she died before she completed the Paradisio, but it is well worth looking at.

That’s funny about the BBC - I wouldn’t have thought of them caring much one way or the other about Catholicism. Maybe they just lump Christians together.
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Sayers, like Chesterton and Lewis (inter alia), is among my collecting areas. Well worth reading, say, THE MIND OF THE MAKER, for a good look at the Trinity. Or UNPOPULAR OPINIONS, for more good stuff.

GKC
 
GKC said:
Sayers, like Chesterton and Lewis (inter alia), is among my collecting areas. Well worth reading, say, THE MIND OF THE MAKER, for a good look at the Trinity. Or UNPOPULAR OPINIONS, for more good stuff.

GKC
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Some days I feel like an unpopular opinion myself.

I have found Sayers much less available in library sources than the other two you mention, alas.
 
Bluegoat said:
Sayers translation of The Divine Comedy is one of the best, and the notes she includes are very insightful and make a lot of what would be obscure meaningful for a modern reader. Unfortunately she died before she completed the Paradisio, but it is well worth looking at.

That’s funny about the BBC - I wouldn’t have thought of them caring much one way or the other about Catholicism. Maybe they just lump Christians together.
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I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but both the Chairman of the BBC trust and the Director-General of the BBC are church-going RCs. However, I’m sure that not mentioning Eliot’s Anglicanism was purely incidental.

It’s all very well for Anglicans to bleat that they get a poor press. But their public relations are very poor. And the CofE Press Office has been described as “somnolent”. Perhaps “showing off” is “not cricket”.
 
Bluegoat said:
Some days I feel like an unpopular opinion myself.

I have found Sayers much less available in library sources than the other two you mention, alas.
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GKC and Bluecoat.

Barbara Pym’s “A Glass of Blessings” and Rose Macaulay’s “The Towers of Trebizon” both portray the CofE in a delightfully quirky way.
 
Billy Graham,no! He is anti Catholic.In an interview with Larry King on CNN.He chastised Catholics for foucsing more on the crucified Christ ,rather than the resurrected Christ.He also attempted to convert JFK Jr,before his horrific plane crash.
 
GEddie said:
Just in keeping with the game, I’d say D. James Kennedy, PhD, (d. 2007) of Coral Ridge Ministries in Florida. He really could preach.

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GE, I remember Kennedy as an anti-Catholic bigot. Am I confusing him with someone?

Also, the current output from his Church is about 2% religion and 98% politics. Whether that was the case while he was living I’m not sure.

My number one candidate, like so many others here, would be Bonhoeffer.
 
beeliner said:
GE, I remember Kennedy as an anti-Catholic bigot. Am I confusing him with someone?

Also, the current output from his Church is about 2% religion and 98% politics. Whether that was the case while he was living I’m not sure.

My number one candidate, like so many others here, would be Bonhoeffer.
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I tuned in to him for over a decade and heard nothing whatever about Catholicism, either positive or negative. And he didn’t speak of politics except issues specific to Protestant Christianity; I.e, abortion, educational indoctrination, etc.

The church, of course, has had four years since him. I haven’t heard them at all since 2000.

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GEddie said:
I tuned in to him for over a decade and heard nothing whatever about Catholicism, either positive or negative. And he didn’t speak of politics except issues specific to Protestant Christianity; I.e, abortion, educational indoctrination, etc.

The church, of course, has had four years since him. I haven’t heard them at all since 2000.

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It is possible that I am confusing him with another departed preacher; if so, I apologize for the negative comment.

I watch NBC’s *Meet the Press *every Sunday morning, and it just so happens that the syndicated show bearing Kennedy’s name follows, and I sometimes catch the first few minutes before switching over to *This Week *on ABC.

Every week, month after month, the topic seems to be the same, the incomaptibility of socialism with Christianity.

This is, of course, ridiculous, or should be ridiculous, to any Catholic, because the most heavily Catholic countries in Europe - Ireland, Austria, Italy, France, Spain, Poland and others, are also the most socialistic, and they are quite happy with European socialism, as was I when I lived in Germany.

So it’s hard to figure out what the Coral Ridge program is trying to prove, or who is financing them, but as I said, I’ve never watched more than the first few minutes.

Sorry to digress from the topic of the thread.
 
beeliner said:
It is possible that I am confusing him with another departed preacher; if so, I apologize for the negative comment.

I watch NBC’s *Meet the Press *every Sunday morning, and it just so happens that the syndicated show bearing Kennedy’s name follows, and I sometimes catch the first few minutes before switching over to *This Week *on ABC.

Every week, month after month, the topic seems to be the same, the incomaptibility of socialism with Christianity.

This is, of course, ridiculous, or should be ridiculous, to any Catholic, because the most heavily Catholic countries in Europe - Ireland, Austria, Italy, France, Spain, Poland and others, are also the most socialistic, and they are quite happy with European socialism, as was I when I lived in Germany.

So it’s hard to figure out what the Coral Ridge program is trying to prove, or who is financing them, but as I said, I’ve never watched more than the first few minutes.

Sorry to digress from the topic of the thread.
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I lived in Ireland from 2005-09 and it is not “most socialistic”.
 
Cheshangle said:
I lived in Ireland from 2005-09 and it is not “most socialistic”.
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Thanks for the comment, I would love to explore that further, but of course we can’t do so here, it’s off the topic. Wikipedia classifies eight of Ireland’s 11 political parties as ‘left wing’.

Maybe I will start a new thread.
 
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