Which Knights of Columbus 4th Degree Color Guard Uniform Do You Prefer?

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Interesting, thanks for the info.
My dad was not in KoC as he focused on the VFW so I mostly just see them at events.
Their fish fries are usually the bomb.
 
One place I really think the KofC blew it is how the new uniform is sourced. Rather than define a black beret, a navy blue blazer and grey slacks – where they would then sell you a patch kit, a baldric and a tie (and possibly a saber and a scabbard), they made the uniform “integral” so it’s still pricey for what it is. Bad move.

They should have made it so members should put together their own uniforms – particularly for young members.
 
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My husband is a 4th degree knight but has never been part of the color guard.All the feathers etc were a bit over the top IMO. I prefer the new outfit
 
They should have made it so members should put together their own uniforms – particularly for young members.
That would sort of defeat the idea of a “uniform”, where the members of the organization are dressed in a uniform fashion for an event.

I think the uniforms are optional anyhow for K of C members, not required for them to be in good standing.
 
That would sort of defeat the idea of a “uniform”, where the members of the organization are dressed in a uniform fashion for an event.
No, that’s not true. They could specific (for instance) 2 button, navy blue, center vent, blazer. The specification could be even more detailed than that – but still very easy to find at a much, much lower price.
 
I think the uniforms are optional anyhow for K of C members, not required for them to be in good standing.
There are 2 somewhat different levels of organization.

There is the “council”. Everyone who joins the KofC makes their first degree at a council, and belongs to a council as long as they are a Knight. Some go on to make their second, and some their third degree. Anyone who has made their first degree is a knight. That is one organization, the council.

Some of those who made their third degree also go on to make 4th degree. They belong to an Assembly, with its own officers (though many are past or present officers of councils, too, and all are still members of councils). Of those who are 4th degree, some join its “color corp”. They are the only ones who wear any kind of uniforms. This is a small fraction of the total K of C.
 
4th degree members wear this uniform, but only the 4th degree color guard wear the sword/scabbard, gloves and I think the baldric. I would hope that ALL KofCers (1st-4th degree) would adopt the beret/hat/blazer/tie/grey slacks.
 
Now the Knights of Columbus can finally dress like 1990s African Warlords!
 
4th degree members wear this uniform, but only the 4th degree color guard wear the sword/scabbard, gloves and I think the baldric.
No uniform for 4th degree members, outside the color corp. The color corp is the only ones who do any kind of “ceremonial” activity. I think many years ago every 4th degree member had to borrow a sword for his own ceremony installed into the 4th degree, and they may have worn a tux for that ceremony.
But no uniform per se, unless they join the color corp.
 
No uniform for 4th degree members, outside the color corp. The color corp is the only ones who do any kind of “ceremonial” activity. I think many years ago every 4th degree member had to borrow a sword for his own ceremony installed into the 4th degree, and they may have worn a tux for that ceremony.

But no uniform per se, unless they join the color corp.
My mistake… It would be nice if more knights of all levels wore a uniform to parish functions. Like so many other service/fraternal organizations inside and outside the Church, their numbers are seem to be fewer and fewer in many parishes and dioceses.
 
No, that’s not true. They could specific (for instance) 2 button, navy blue, center vent, blazer. The specification could be even more detailed than that – but still very easy to find at a much, much lower price.
I got it. More of a dress code, as opposed to a uniform, but distinctive enough that people know that you belong.

Everyone wearing the same color combination, where its unlikely that very many non-members would randomly pick the same choices.
 
their numbers are seem to be fewer and fewer in many parishes and dioceses.
“Seem” is the operative word here. In actuality, the membership of the K of C is rising. Fraternal organizations in general have fewer active members, its not just the knights. The Shriners are with their miniature cars at the Memorial Day parade here in Pittsburgh, and they have a fairly large contingency marching. But out of 50 or 60 guys, there are only 3 or 4 that are younger than I am. And I’m 61.
http://www.kofc.org/en/news/releases/1point8_20100505.html
 
“Seem” is the operative word here. In actuality, the membership of the K of C is rising. Fraternal organizations in general have fewer active members, its not just the knights. The Shriners are with their miniature cars at the Memorial Day parade here in Pittsburgh, and they have a fairly large contingency marching. But out of 50 or 60 guys, there are only 3 or 4 that are younger than I am. And I’m 61.
So is “active.” I don’t doubt that the KofC is doing well from a membership/insurance sales standpoint. But their impact in parishes definitely seems to be waning. The Masons are hurting even worse – and they have no insurance component.
 
My mistake… It would be nice if more knights of all levels wore a uniform to parish functions. Like so many other service/fraternal organizations inside and outside the Church, their numbers are seem to be fewer and fewer in many parishes and dioceses.
I suppose, we do have a kind of uniform when our council and assembly march in 4th of July parade; we wear a light colored shirt, and black or blue pants. (Sadly, more of us have to ride than walk now. We are aging). You make a good point about wearing at least some kind of designated clothing to parish functions, besides just our K of C pins. Now that I think of it, there are a few Council officers (district deputies) who wear special sport coats.

When our council members are at a parish, we usually dress up much more formally than today’s typical Catholic Mass attenders, so that is kind of a uniform. But that is a pretty low bar anyway.
 
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So is “active.” I don’t doubt that the KofC is doing well from a membership/insurance sales standpoint. But their impact in parishes definitely seems to be waning.
By the way, there is a huge push by the Supreme Council to get local councils out of their separate properties, and into parishes, directly under the pastors. Where I live, until recently no parishes had their own K of C councils, just regional, independent councils not connected to any parish. They had priest chaplains, of course, and supported the bishop. Now, almost all new councils are being formed in parishes, and there is pressure on “regional” or standalone type councils to move into a parish, directly under a pastor rather than finding their own, separate chaplain.

So, in a few years the giant K of C building where you went to wedding receptions, and maybe had their own bowling alley and bar, will be a thing of the past. But you will find the K of C in a lot more parishes. Worldwide, the K of C is growing about 1% a year, but likely shrinking in the old rust belt dioceses, and growing in the sunbelt.
 
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Hate the berets.

Like the capes in the old style.

Like the tuxedo/bowtie over the shirt/tie.

Heard that there’s only a single-source for the suit. Not thrilled with that.

If the uniform needed to be changed 'cause it’s out of date, then why keep the gloves and sword? 🤔 😉
 
The new uniform looks much better. That guy looks ready to kill a lava monster, a feat that only wizards from the LOTR and US Marines are capable of.
 
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I got it. More of a dress code, as opposed to a uniform
No, a uniform. When I was in a fraternity in college we had a uniform for many functions: Navy blue two-button center vent blazer with brass buttons that we were issued. White long sleeve dress shirt (standard collar, no button-downs, no french cuffs), issued maroon tie with half windsor knot, medium grey dress slacks – no cuffs, black leather belt and dress shoes. Simple, uniform.
 
If the uniform needed to be changed 'cause it’s out of date, then why keep the gloves and sword?
The same reason the USN does. They’re classic, but not cheesy elements of many uniforms:
 
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