Which Old Testament?

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When this topic comes up in various threads, there is one question that seems to never get answered…Why do you (protestants in general) accept the opinion of the very same people, whom rejected the Son,and continue to do so, in regards to just what God’s revealed words consist of?
 
fbl9 said:
When this topic comes up in various threads, there is one question that seems to never get answered…Why do you (protestants in general) accept the opinion of the very same people, whom rejected the Son,and continue to do so, in regards to just what God’s revealed words consist of?
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So, you’re asking why we would accept Jewish opinion regarding the Jewish scripture?

Would you ask St. Jerome this question in this manner and tone?

Jon
 
fbl9 said:
When this topic comes up in various threads, there is one question that seems to never get answered…Why do you (protestants in general) accept the opinion of the very same people, whom rejected the Son,and continue to do so, in regards to just what God’s revealed words consist of?
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Jesus told us that if you want to know what the scriptures actually mean, ask the Rabbis, because they do know what they mean…
 
fbl9 said:
When this topic comes up in various threads, there is one question that seems to never get answered…Why do you (protestants in general) accept the opinion of the very same people, whom rejected the Son,and continue to do so, in regards to just what God’s revealed words consist of?
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In all respect, I have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re saying Protestants in general wholeheartedly accept Jewish interpretation of the Old Testament? How did you arrive at this conclusion? Please provide a link to a thread, a reference, an example, or even an anecdote of this happening, so that people can better respond.
 
pdholden said:
In all respect, I have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re saying Protestants in general wholeheartedly accept Jewish interpretation of the Old Testament? How did you arrive at this conclusion? Please provide a link to a thread, a reference, an example, or even an anecdote of this happening, so that people can better respond.
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I don’t think that’s the OP point, though I could be wrong. I think the OP is talking specifically about the duetero-canonical books, and that we site the Jewish determination that they were not part of the OT canon.

Jon
 
JonNC said:
So, you’re asking why we would accept Jewish opinion regarding the Jewish scripture?

Would you ask St. Jerome this question in this manner and tone?

Jon
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Christianity is the completion of the Jewish faith… If you truely believe this (that Christianity is true) then why would you still look to the Jews for how to interperate scripture when they are in denial of the Messiah… I feel more comfortable reading the Old Testament as Jesus read it…
 
fishisgood said:
Christianity is the completion of the Jewish faith… If you truely believe this (that Christianity is true) then why would you still look to the Jews for how to interperate scripture when they are in denial of the Messiah… I feel more comfortable reading the Old Testament as Jesus read it…
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How did Jesus read the OT?
 
fishisgood said:
Christianity is the completion of the Jewish faith… If you truely believe this (that Christianity is true) then why would you still look to the Jews for how to interperate scripture when they are in denial of the Messiah… I feel more comfortable reading the Old Testament as Jesus read it…
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Who said I do?

I think the OP needs to clarify. My initial post was with the impression that he/she was talking about why Protestants generally do not view the d-c books as canon. Obviously, Lutherans properly interpret the OT’s prophesies as pointing to Jesus of Nazareth.
Hope that clarifies my response.

Jon
 
JonNC said:
OK, there are about 3 current threads where this is covered.

Hey SemperReformada,
It is the movie Groundhog’s Day 😃

Sorry fishisgood, an inside joke not directed at you.

Jon
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It’s de javu all over again. Don’t know if I spelled it right though…
 
JonNC said:
OK, there are about 3 current threads where this is covered.

Hey SemperReformada,
It is the movie Groundhog’s Day 😃

Sorry fishisgood, an inside joke not directed at you.

Jon
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I think I get the joke… I thought that it was what the OP was talking about… Ive lurked here long enough to know this has been addressed but havnt most of these topics???😊
 
SemperReformada said:
Okay, how do you know Jesus thought the deutero’s were inspired?
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They were part of the scripture he read… it was changed later by the Jews and the protestants followed suit as if they (the Jews) had authority… you can correct me if im wrong im not arguing passionatly
 
fishisgood said:
Christianity is the completion of the Jewish faith… If you truely believe this (that Christianity is true) then why would you still look to the Jews for how to interperate scripture when they are in denial of the Messiah… I feel more comfortable reading the Old Testament as Jesus read it…
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if you read it as Jesus did then your deuterocannon wouldnt exist…
 
fishisgood said:
They were part of the scripture he read… it was changed later by the Jews and the protestants followed suit as if they (the Jews) had authority… you can correct me if im wrong im not arguing passionatly
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I don’t think there is any way to prove or demonstrate that any of the NT authors thought the detuero’s were inspired or contained within the canon of scripture used by the Jews in the 1st century.

Various authors such as Philo and Josephus seem to know nothing of the Jews accepting the dc’s. I’ve never seen any evidence offered to the contrary that the Jews of the first century, much less the Palestinian Jews of that time, accepted the deutero’s. I had a source, not sure if I can find it, that either listed or numbered the books stored in the temple. The list or number matches the Hebrew OT which Protestants by and large accept. I’ll see what I can find but it may take awhile to track that down again.

I know of no evidence external to the NT that suggests the Jews of the 1st century accepted the deuteros. Besides the external evidence, the evidence contained within the pages of the NT give no indication that any NT author thought that the deutero’s were inspired. The deutero’s are never quoted in a way which would indicate they were thought of as inspired. I realize this is sort of arguing from silence but my point is that I don’t think there is anyway to prove/demonstrate conclusively that the deutero’s were thought to be inspired by any of the NT authors.
 
fishisgood said:
neither would OUR New Testement… deuterocannon was part of scripture at that time… if not explain
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Fish if the deuteros were part of scripture then why does Jerome advise against using them for developing articles/doctrines of faith?? Clearly several early popes also held this same opinion in stating that the deuteros are good for edification but not considered sufficient for developing doctrines of faith. Please also demonstrate that Christ read from these works.
 
JonNC said:
I don’t think that’s the OP point, though I could be wrong. I think the OP is talking specifically about the duetero-canonical books, and that we site the Jewish determination that they were not part of the OT canon.

Jon
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Exactly what i meant…Thank you John NC

Sorry if my question did not make sense to some of you, but after reading it again i see no way that it could piont to the Jewish interpitation of God’s word.
 
JonNC said:
So, you’re asking why we would accept Jewish opinion regarding the Jewish scripture?

Would you ask St. Jerome this question in this manner and tone?

Jon
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Yes and maybe for once i might actually get an answer:D
 
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