Which OT books have no quotes in the NT?

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I was having a conversation with a Protestant friend and his argument for rejection of the Deuterocanonical books is that they are not quoted in the NT. I know that Matthew 27:43 is a direct quote from Wisdom 2:18; that alone pretty much shoots that theory out of the water. But I got to thinking, how about approaching this from the other side. Is there a list of the Protestant OT books that have no quotes from them in the NT?
 
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I was having a conversation with a Protestant friend and his argument for rejection of the Deuterocanonical books is that they are not quoted in the NT. I know that Matthew 27:43 is a direct quote from Wisdom 2:18; that alone pretty much shoots that theory out of the water. But I got to thinking, how about approaching this from the other side. Is there a list of the Protestant OT books that have no quotes from them in the NT?
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I don’t believe Ecclesiastes has any quotes in the NT, but I’m not positive.

Also, what constitutes a quote? In another thread, the member “Elder” says that a quote has to be in the form, “It is written . . .” Can it be something indirect like Tobit 4:15 and Matthew 7:12? ScriptureCatholic has loads of these kinds of parallels for you to show your Protestant friend.
 
If you do an online search, you should find an article by Mark Shea called “5 Myths about 7 books”. Here’s what Mark says about this argument.
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numerous non-canonical books are quoted in the New Testament. These include the **Book of Enoch** and the **Assumption of Moses** (quoted by St. Jude), the **Ascension of Isaiah** (alluded to in Hebrews 11:37), and the writings of the pagan poets **Epimenides, Aratus, and Menander** (quoted by St. Paul in Acts, 1 Corinthians, and Titus). **If quotation equals canonicity, then why aren't these writings in the canon of the Old Testament**?
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Second, if quotation equals canonicity, then there are numerous books of the protocanonical Old Testament which would have to be excluded. This would include the Song of Songs, Ecclesiastes, Esther, Obadiah, Zephaniah, Judges, 1 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, Lamentations and Nahum. Not one of these Old Testament books is ever quoted or alluded to by Christ or the Apostles in the New Testament.
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I think this pretty much squelches that straw man. BTW, I need to forward this to our good friend, Elder.
 
And while you are at it, don’t forget to throw in the ole Sola Fide and Sola Scriptura as being missing in action on either side of Old/New Testaments in any bible.
 
Julian0404 said:
And while you are at it, don’t forget to throw in the ole Sola Fide and Sola Scriptura as being missing in action on either side of Old/New Testaments in any bible.
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No, but neither do you have the Trinity.

That’s why we are left with, “The Church of the Living God, the Pillar and Bulwark of Truth” to teach us what is and what isn’t the Truth.
 
I think Ecclesiastes was alluded to at best, some of the Jews in Jesus’ day rejected it as a epicurean work. Its embarrassing when people use the “not quoted in the new testament” argument.
 
NotWorthy said:
If you do an online search, you should find an article by Mark Shea called “5 Myths about 7 books”. Here’s what Mark says about this argument.
Book of Enoch
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I think this pretty much squelches that straw man. BTW, I need to forward this to our good friend, Elder.

Even better.

So, we have the 11 books of the Protestant OT that are not quoted in the NT:
1 Song of Songs
2 Ecclesiastes
3 Esther
4 Obadiah
5 Zephaniah
6 Judges
7 First Chronicles
8 Ezra
9 Nehemiah
10 Lamentations
11 Nahum

And, we even have pagan books that are quoted in the NT. Thank you.
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Is there a list of the Protestant OT books that have no quotes from them in the NT?

Maybe I’m reading this wrong, but there are no “Protestant OT books” that are not also CATHOLIC OT books. The only difference is that there are seven books in the Catholic canon that are not in the Protestant version.
 
RJB said:
Is there a list of the Protestant OT books that have no quotes from them in the NT?

Maybe I’m reading this wrong, but there are no “Protestant OT books” that are not also CATHOLIC OT books. The only difference is that there are seven books in the Catholic canon that are not in the Protestant version.
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Yeah, but its so much easier to say
"Protestant OT books" than to say “OT books that are accepted by the Protestant Faiths”. 😉
 
I am guessing Mass has not changed too terribly much in spite of what I read here about it, and that there would be at least a reading or two from the hebrew scriptures and a gospel reading at each Mass for, lots of years.
In those readings, these controversial seven books must have come up many times over the years.
To call into question their reliability, is to call into question the many years and many believers who heard them and knew them. Why shouldn’t protestants answer to why their bible is lacking what the worldwide christian community had been using in their worship service all that time? Is less more? What is wrong with more bible to a protestant?
 
StrawberryJam said:
I am guessing Mass has not changed too terribly much in spite of what I read here about it, and that there would be at least a reading or two from the hebrew scriptures and a gospel reading at each Mass for, lots of years.
In those readings, these controversial seven books must have come up many times over the years.
To call into question their reliability, is to call into question the many years and many believers who heard them and knew them. Why shouldn’t protestants answer to why their bible is lacking what the worldwide christian community had been using in their worship service all that time? Is less more? What is wrong with more bible to a protestant?
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Excellent question, I would like to know the answer as well. I grew up not even knowing there were different Bibles, just different translations. If the 7 canons are authenticated as well as the other books, I want a Bible that includes them.
 
HisWill777 said:
Excellent question, I would like to know the answer as well. I grew up not even knowing there were different Bibles, just different translations. If the 7 canons are authenticated as well as the other books, I want a Bible that includes them.
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Well, the councils that laid out the canon of the NT everyone uses today also said that the 7 deuterocanonical books were inspired Scripture . . . many Protestants will say something like, “I’m pretty sure the Jews knew what books were in their own Bible!” They use the canon accepted at the council of Jamnia (which did not even officially set the canon), this is kind of ironic because that same council rejected all NT Scriptures and Christ . . . which council would YOU follow?
 
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