Which part of Christ died on the Cross?

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When Jesus died, did his humanity die, and if his humanity died, then would that mean that his soul separated from his body?

I guess what I’m asking is, did Christ’s body die, while his soul and divinity went into the limbo of the Fathers?
 
In the Catechism of the Catholic Church (627) it says:
Christ’s death was a real death in that it put an end to his earthly human existence. But because of the union which the person of the Son retained with his body, his was not a mortal corpse like others, for "it was not possible for death to hold him"470 and therefore "divine power preserved Christ’s body from corruption."471 Both of these statements can be said of Christ: “He was cut off out of the land of the living”,472 and "My flesh will dwell in hope. For you will not abandon my soul to Hades, nor let your Holy One see corruption."473 Jesus’ Resurrection “on the third day” was the sign of this, also because bodily decay was held to begin on the fourth day after death
 
in the catechism of the catholic church (627) it says:

christ’s death was a real death in that it put an end to his earthly human existence. But because of the union which the person of the son retained with his body, his was not a mortal corpse like others, for "it was not possible for death to hold him"470 and therefore "divine power preserved christ’s body from corruption."471 both of these statements can be said of christ: “he was cut off out of the land of the living”,472 and "my flesh will dwell in hope. For you will not abandon my soul to hades, nor let your holy one see corruption."473 jesus’ resurrection “on the third day” was the sign of this, also because bodily decay was held to begin on the fourth day after death
 
When Jesus died, did his humanity die, and if his humanity died, then would that mean that his soul separated from his body?

I guess what I’m asking is, did Christ’s body die, while his soul and divinity went into the limbo of the Fathers?
Correct, if anything other than that had happened, it wouldn’t be a human death.

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Yes, Our Lord’s human body died upon the cross and His soul was separated from it, which is shown in the Bible when it says He “gave up the ghost” (Mark xv. 37).
 
Death is separation of the soul from the body. The Lord’s Soul went to the Underworld. His Divinity, inasmuch as it is and was united to His Soul, went also (though remained united also to His Body and Blood and also subsisted in Heaven).
 
I think the OP is asking this question based on the other thread he/she started and the answers given there.

Just to be clear, God the Son was NEVER separated from God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. The Holy Trinity is ONE God.
 
When Jesus died, did his humanity die, and if his humanity died, then would that mean that his soul separated from his body?

I guess what I’m asking is, did Christ’s body die, while his soul and divinity went into the limbo of the Fathers?
No *part *of Christ died on the cross.
Christ died on the cross.

A *humanity *doesn’t die (it isn’t a living thing), a person dies.
Christ died on the cross.

There is nothing wrong with this – Death is not annihilation – As you correctly note, it is the separation of soul from body.

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[cf. http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/the-worlds-toughest-catholic-quiz”]The World’s Toughest Catholic Quiz, q 15]
 
No *part *of Christ died on the cross.
Christ died on the cross.

A *humanity *doesn’t die (it isn’t a living thing), a person dies.
Christ died on the cross.
Indeed. This is absolutely foundational to the Communicatio Idiomatum.
 
I think it’s clearer now. This is a multiple choice question, and choice C is the correct answer
  1. At the Crucifixion
a. Jesus’ human nature died on the cross.
b. Only the human person of Jesus, not the divine person of Jesus, died on the cross.
c. God died on the cross.
d. Jesus’ human and divine natures both died on the cross, but the universe was kept going by the Father and the Holy Spirit until Jesus’ Resurrection.
e. None of the above.
An explanation why choice C is correct
Question 15
a. Wrong, because natures aren’t put to death–persons are. When you die, it is not your human nature which dies, but you as a distinct person.
b. Wrong, because there is no human person in Jesus. There is only one Person, the divine, who already (by definition) had a divine nature and who took on a human nature.
c. Correct, because the Person who died on the cross was a divine Person, commonly called the Son of God. Since that Person is God, it is proper to say God died on the cross, even though that sounds odd and may make some unthinking people conclude that it means that God ceased to exists, which, of course, was not the case. (If you were sure this answer could not be right, don’t fret–you’re in good company. Most people miss this question because the correct answer “just doesn’t sound right.”)
d. Wrong, first because natures don’t die, persons do, and second because the answer suggest Jesus couldn’t keep the universe going, as though he ceased to be God between the time of his death and his Resurrection.
e. Wrong, because 15c is correct.
 
“In the tomb with the body, in Hades with the soul as God, in paradise with the thief, and on the throne with the Father and the Spirit wast Thou who fillest all things, O boundless Christ.”
 
Another CCC paragraph you might find noteworthy is 637. The preceding paragraphs also shed more light into His descent into hell (sheol)

637 In his human soul united to his divine person, the dead Christ went down to the realm of the dead. He opened heaven’s gates for the just who had gone before him.
 
When Jesus died, did his humanity die, and if his humanity died, then would that mean that his soul separated from his body?

I guess what I’m asking is, did Christ’s body die, while his soul and divinity went into the limbo of the Fathers?
Hi!
…you are supposing that Christ was merely human… because Christ was also Divine He would be able to do things that no human can do:
18 Because Christ also died once for our sins, the just for the unjust: that he might offer us to God, being put to death indeed in the flesh, but enlivened in the spirit, 19 In which also coming he preached to those spirits that were in prison: 20 Which had been some time incredulous, when they waited for the patience of God in the days of Noe, (1 St. Peter 3:18-20a)
Maran atha!

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